[Assam] Day2: Assam 2007: Pt2; engg colleges, NRAs & C
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at charter.net
Wed Jul 4 13:15:13 PDT 2007
And at the same time become the methane factory of the world, with
all that sewage decomposing in the canals, with no place to go.
Sounds like a winner to me. It is already so after every rainfall,
anyway. Just plug up whatever drain inlet is still working, and get
some boats--voila, you have a city viler than Venice.
It would be funny, had it not for the tragedy of it all, for so many
of our own.
At 12:09 PM -0700 7/4/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
>I wouldn't know who used the phrase "negative reception" at Laurel,
>MD - whether it was the CM himself or someone else. It is important
>to know the source because that has a bearing on what I am about to
>say.
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>If the CM used those words, it was because he felt uncomfortable
>answering some of the direct questions on infrastructure in Assam
>that were asked in the Boston town hall meeting (that's what it was
>called). The questions came from all sections of the
>audience including several second generation Assamese-Americans. I
>could see the pain these young people feel for their grand parents
>and relatives in Assam when they asked about measures being taken to
>alleviate water logging of streets in Guwahati and annual flooding
>of the state from the Brahmaputra. No direct answers were given.
>
>There were questions on water retention ponds - why they are not
>made a part of any development in a major town/city in Assam. The
>answer was standard - for Guwahati, it is part of the master plan.
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>There wasn't any formal presentation or speech except for one by a
>GOA official, Mr. Sachan. The core of the speech by Mr. Sachan was
>on investment in Assam, including details on tax deferment for
>investors. I think the CM was expecting questions on investment in
>the town hall open meeting that he did not get. During the reception
>after the meeting, I noticed several would-be-investors talked to
>the CM on an one to one basis. Since they were private discussions,
>I wouldn't know what they talked about.
>
>During the reception, someone passed on an idea in a lighter vein
>that Guwahati has the potential of being the "Venice of the East".
>Since the streets get water logged anyway, just dig them deep,
>retain and circulate the water, ply Assam style boats for
>transportation and call Guwahati the "Venice of the East". Open
>shopping malls on the two banks and invite the tourists. How is that
>for an investment idea? :-)
>Dilip
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>Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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>>IMHO, the annual floods are are going to happen every year. I don't
>>think we can increase/or decrease floods by human action.
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>>The river will find the weakest embankments to crest, and will do so.
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>*** Yes, you are off base here Ram :-).
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>There is an enormous amount that could be done and not a moment too soon.
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>BTW, Guwahati flooding is entirely a man-made phenomenon. It is the
>Indian style of non-planning, uneducated citizenry and dysfunctional
>govt. bodies that has caused it. To resolve the problem, much that
>was done to desecrate the city has to be undone. And it will need
>foresight, political will and resources. The last could be
>generated. The first is widely available. But the the one in the
>middle is the weak link.
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>At 11:40 AM -0600 7/4/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
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>>Hi KJD,
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> >In my considered opinion,the problem of flood is the
>most >menacing natural calamity,experienced by the state every
>year >particularly since the great earthquake of 1950
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>I agree, this is a much bigger and affecting more people than Engg.
>colleges. And this is a problem that happens every year.
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>Yes, Umesh did report "after the negative reception he received at
>Boston conference ". Don't know exactly what that means - but will
>just leave it at that,
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>Regarding the annual floods: Here are thoughts (and I could be
>totally off base in my assumptions)
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>IMHO, the annual floods are are going to happen every year. I don't
>think we can increase/or decrease floods by human action.
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>The river will find the weakest embankments to crest, and will do so.
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>So, what exactly can the state do?
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>It can be ready for it every year by taking evasive actions.
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>Can be ready with large scale evacuvation plans including livestock
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>Can identify Highly flood prone areas, and advice settlers of the dangers.
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>Be prepared with medical facilities
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>Rescue operation readiness
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>Help farmers get back on their feet with seed/fertilizer supplies etc.
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>Help farmers acquire flood insurance - the state can mandate
>insurance companies that they must offer reduced rats for farmers.
>The state govt. can help farmers with the bulk of the premiums.
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>The list can go on.
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>--Ram
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>On 7/4/07, kamal deka <<mailto:kjit.deka at gmail.com>kjit.deka at gmail.com> wrote:
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>Hi RS,
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>My attention was drawn to the following remark,made by Umesh
>Sarma.He wrote and I quote " after the negative reception he
>received at Boston conference where he was only questioned about
>annual flooding "
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>In my considered opinion,the problem of flood is the most menacing
>natural calamity,experienced by the state every year particularly
>since the great earthquake of 1950.The stagnancy of economy of the
>state owes much to this recurrent menace.For example,in the course
>of last ten years,the total damage caused by floods to
>crops,habitation of people and lives of cattle is estimated at over
>Rs.1000 crores.
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>The dream of setting up of 111 engineering colleges in Assam is okay
>( how many medical colleges will be needed to look after the
>ailments of these folks,I wonder ?).But then,one must remember that
>76% of Assam's population is rural-based,who eke out a living from
>their poor surroundings and where facilities in the area of
>power,basic education ,health care
>benefits,roads/communication/transport etc.are non-existent.Unless
>these areas are taken care of by the government,economic prosperity
>is impossible,even if you build thousands of engineering colleges.
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>KJD
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>On 7/4/07, Ram Sarangapani
><<mailto:assamrs at gmail.com>assamrs at gmail.com > wrote:
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>Thank you, Umesh for providing an exhaustive account of Assam 2007.
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> any mecal colleges
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>--Ram da
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>On 7/3/07, umesh sharma <<mailto:jaipurschool at yahoo.com>
>jaipurschool at yahoo.com > wrote:
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>Hi,
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>In the Day 2 of the meeting (on Sunday July 1st, 2007) we arrived
>just in time to have the lunch (got value for money - the $110 we
>had paid each for the Assam 2007) - I was able to identify the dish
>with the shrimp (and avoided a painful alergy outbreak ) .
>
>
>At the same time meeting of Assam Society was going on - I could
>make out the sentences in English which were focused on non-profit
>work and fund-raising (of about $2,500 only) and projects been
>sponsored and monitored in Assam.
>
> Later Partha-da Gogoi presented a passionate presentation for the
>self-help groups and business initiative and mentoring for
>engineering students etc
><http://www.nepif.weblet.in/>http://www.nepif.weblet.in/ North
>East Professional Institutes Forum
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>under the leadership of Assam Institute of Management
><http://www.aimguwahati.com/>http://www.aimguwahati.com/ -- which
>was later shown in front of the Chief Minister --
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>alongwith a presentation slideshow of
><http://www.pearllifeline.com/>http://www.pearllifeline.com/ funded
>and spearheaded by an NRI/NRA
><http://www.assamtribune.com/may0507/Photo4.html>http://www.assamtribune.com/may0507/Photo4.html
>who advised US President George Bush on medical stuff.
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><http://www.posoowa.org/2007/06/30/a-need-for-expanding-engineering-education-facilities-in-assam-for-economic-growth-and-human-development/>http://www.posoowa.org/2007/06/30/a-need-for-expanding-engineering-education-facilities-in-assam-for-economic-growth-and-human-development/
>After that was the persuasive presentation for promoting engineering
>college by Jugal-da Kalita based on research by Jugal-da (IIT , Phd
>UPenn - Ivy League Univ, Prof Computer Science, Colorado) , Umesh-da
>Tabildar (IIT , NASA, USA ), Jukti-da Kalita (IIT, IIM, PhD
>Columbia) , Mantu-da Bhaishya ( BITS, Pilani ) , Ganesh-a Bora (PhD
>Kansas - Agriculture engineering) , Durba-da Bhattacharya (Prof
>Computer science - Tejpur Univ, Assam)
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>--- with comments on it by Gautom Barua (Director IIT- Guwahati
>Computer Science) and other IIT profs and Dipankar-da Medhi (Prof
>Computer Science at Kansas and AssamNet Co-founder)
>
>The Chief Minster was in a state of bliss --- especially after the
>negative reception he received at Boston conference where he was
>only questioned about the annual flooding of Guwahati (he later
>spoke of Global Warming which might lead initail floods by melting
>of glaciers followed by drought - when no more glaciers). He said
>that he is so pleased with these presentation which have a positive
>note and aim to improve the situation of Assam.
>
>Main Points of the engineering college presentation -- Orissa has
>13,000 employed by Infosys for computer work -- even though has much
>worse travel connection than Assam. Gautam Barua (IIT - G director)
>was told by Infosys Chief (Nilekani is IIT batchmate of Gautam-da )
>that Assam only produces 750 engg grads compared to 13,000 by Orissa
>- and Infosys wants 80% of its employees to be local -atleast.
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>Second, Assam has 2.5% of India's population but only 0.2% of its
>engineering colleges and only 0.17% of its engineering graduates. I
>agreed with Jugal-da that engineering education might act as a
>"pull" in improving basic education (at school level) .
>
> Later during lunch Jugal-da, Partha-da and others were having
>lively discussion with the CM. The CM had declared that his govt had
>declared already that the year 2007 was the Year of Education and
>passed a Bill (confirmed by his ADC later to me) to open privately
>run engineering colleges etc. Jugal-da however, told me that he was
>not able to lay hands on any such Bill being passed by Assam govt -
>but may have been introduced.
>
>I was within one feet of the CM and even made eye contact but I
>conceded to the stalwarts waiting to talk to him - who could have
>more immediate impact or synergy.
>
>Partha-da in his very professional approach showed that it was
>possible to have business outreach delegations to US -- since
>backward states like Jharkhand and Uttranchal have been making
>waves in US. Utpal-da Brahma (IIT, IIM and National Defense
>Academy selected ) was of the opinion that first local Indian
>companies need to be invited to Assam and based on their
>performance MNCs would get attracted to invest (FDI) in Assam.
>
>There are more than one way to skin a cat , however!!!!
>
>Jugal-da and Partha-da rightly noted that NRAs have yet to get
>involved with entrepreneurial ventures and thus, professional
>education is the key to economic development of Assam -- a fact
>whole heartedly agreed to by Assam Chief Minister.
>
>He did say the Assam's economy was growing at 3% before his tenure
>and now is at 6% and want it to go up to 8-9% to catch up with rest
>of India - and negated my question (anonymous) that corruption was
>on the rise otherwise how could current growth be possible.
>
>(My comment - Indian embassy in DC has now opened doors for anyone
>seeking corroption of any other info - under RTI - Right To Info Act)
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>Any comments?
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>Umesh
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>Umesh Sharma
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>Washington D.C.
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>1-202-215-4328 [Cell]
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>Ed.M. - International Education Policy
>Harvard Graduate School of Education,
>Harvard University,
>Class of 2005
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><http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html>http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html
>(Edu info)
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><http://hbswk.hbs.edu/>http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)
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><http://www.gse.harvard.edu/iep>www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the
>above 2 are used )
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