[Assam] Math First: Harvard & UVa study on college science success
umesh sharma
jaipurschool at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 30 21:56:49 PDT 2007
Here is something about India's government engineers ruling the globe:
http://www.bhel.com/bhel/overseasbusiness/international.htm
BHEL, ranking among the major power plant equipment suppliers in the world, is one of the largest exporters of engineering products & services from India. Over the years, BHEL has established its references in around 60 countries of the world, ranging from the United States in the West to New Zealand in the Far East. BHEL's export range covers individual products to complete Power Stations, Turnkey Contracts for Power Plants, EPC Contracts, HV/EHV Sub-stations, O&M Services for familiar technologies, Specialized after-market services like Residual Life Assessment (RLA) studies and Retrofitting, Refurbishing & Overhauling, and supplies to manufacturers & EPC contractors.
BHEL has assimilated and updated/adopted the state-of-the-art-technologies in the Power and Industrial equipment sectors acquired from world leaders. BHEL has successfully undertaken turnkey projects on its own and possesses the requisite flexibility to interface and complement international companies for large projects, and has also exhibited adaptability by manufacturing and supplying intermediate products to the design of other manufacturers and original equipment manufacturers (OEMs). The success in the area of rehabilitation and life extension of power projects has established BHEL as a reliable alternative to the OEMs for such power plants.
Umesh
Dilip/Dil Deka <dilipdeka at yahoo.com> wrote: Mridul,
How does it shake out if you draw a line between the public and private sectors? If the private sector also is employing engineers just for the sake of providing employment or because there is a position open for an engineering degree holder, then there is a big problem.
I don't know whether you live in India or not. I'd like to hear how it is in the Indian private sector.
Dilip Deka
Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
At 10:04 PM -0700 7/29/07, Mridul Bhuyan wrote:
As far as engineers employed in India, I am not sure if being creative or not makes any difference. Regarding most of the engineering jobs in India, except in a few cases, I am not sure, if Engineers are required at all :) Mridul Bhuyan
**** You are sooo right Mridul!
What our NRI friends can't quite deal with is the realities of India. They need to keep up those appearances, NOT because they do not know, but it is from their own personal insecurities about who or what they identify with.
c-da
Dilip/Dil Deka <dilipdeka at yahoo.com> wrote:
Umesh, Not every engineer needs to be creative. However every engineer should be good in math, just to survive in the field. The design engineers need to know what is behind the softwares they use now a days to solve engineering problems. There are functions in engineering where a person can contribute without being creative in the real sense of the word. I have spent 30+ years in the field, including management of engineers, I should know something about engineers by now. A request to engineers in India - please speak up. Dilipda
umesh sharma <jaipurschool at yahoo.com> wrote:
C-da,
But the article was about doing intensive coursework in math at high school levele - not at an engineering college.
***But there is more to it: Ability to do good math, by and of itself, does not guarantee success as an engineer or scientist. One can do well in the academic exams, can even get good jobs, not just as engineers, but in a lot of other fields, but real engineering also requires creativity -- something Indian engineering schools rarely help develop, while not everyone is endowed with an ability or have the aptitude to develop it
Umesh
Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
At 1:33 PM -0700 7/27/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
Netters with interest in science will find this article interesting. Math is used in all sciences, so obviously good fundamental knowledge in math helps students in all branches of science. A good grasp of math in high school helps engineering students as well, across the board.
*** And that is exactly why it is so essential to have a sound primary education where math fundamentals take root or die. If you look at the percentage of students in Assam who have a decent knowledge of math fundamentals, you will know why so few excel in science, technology etc.
But there is more to it: Ability to do good math, by and of itself, does not guarantee success as an engineer or scientist. One can do well in the academic exams, can even get good jobs, not just as engineers, but in a lot of other fields, but real engineering also requires creativity -- something Indian engineering schools rarely help develop, while not everyone is endowed with an ability or have the aptitude to develop it .
Dilip
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umesh sharma <jaipurschool at yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/home/news_and_events/releases/science_07262007.html
Umesh Sharma
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Ed.M. - International Education Policy
Harvard Graduate School of Education,
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Class of 2005
http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info)
http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)
www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used )
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Class of 2005
http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info)
http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)
www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used )
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Harvard Graduate School of Education,
Harvard University,
Class of 2005
http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info)
http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)
www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used )
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