[Assam] I'll Volunteer For The Pakistan Army if India Attacks - Community

[umesh sharma]

My comment is right at the end. One of my Facebook friends commented on it. Perceptions seem interesting. Some in Pakistan believe that these guys were brave who held India hostage, some believe Indian are dark and skinny and thus can be easily defeated n battle. More balanced views suggest that Paksitan has too many prblems already that noone in Pakistan would take on more trouble. I think India should send in "brave" people who are ready to die without glorification by their loved ones later - as unknowns --which may be difficult in a culture which sees death in battle leading to awards, lifelong benefits for the family etc. Such "brave" people should be sent to tackle the training camps.

Umesh

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Post #1
Anum Iftikhar (Kinnaird College for Women) wroteon December 13, 2008 at 4:57am
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Vishno Rao wroteon December 13, 2008 at 5:14am
why such in-security? war is not heading ur way anytime soon!!!!!
but if u ask for one ... Me and my fellow INDIANS shall be more than ready to head for retaliation!!

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Post #3
Mustafa Ahmed replied to Vishno's poston December 14, 2008 at 3:20am
my dear indian brother vishno what makes you think the cause of our insecurity? zara apni indian news hata kar humari news daikho to samajh mien aiga keh why we are feeling so insecure. west say America is attacking our north-western cities and towns just because of the suspicion that al-qaida or taliban must be using these areas as a base. the americans are killing innocent citizens. if they attack a town, and 10 people die, 9 out of them are usually innocent citizens, women, and children. then in the regions where the taliban have their hold, they are terorising the pakistani citizens both muslim and non-muslim alike. most of the pakistan army's opperations are in neutralizing them.
Second reason, our political situation itself is in ruins. and thanks to this fucking asif ali zardari, our economic situation is from bad to worse, and worsening.
your country since 1947-this day, is hungry to get it's lost land(Pakistan) again. and after the recent terrorist attacks in Mumbai, they conveniently put the blame on us and warning us to wage war as a sign of retaliation!
i don't believe that we are responsible for the outrageous terrorist attacks because due to already terrible situations, i don't think that any pakistani citizen and government official alike would want to increase their misery.
We Mr.Vishnu Rao are feeling insecure because we are being attacked from our west, we are being attacked internally within our country, and now we are expecting you to join the party too. we have every reason to feel insecure.. the question lies however would you help us? sympathise with us? or will you too look down at us as your prey?

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Vishno Rao wroteon December 14, 2008 at 3:59am
i understand.. the fear that lingers around the lives of fellow pakistanis !! i symphathise with u completely!! because your country too is terror stricken!!

i'd like to correct you ... INDIA does not want pakistan back!! that land is a forgotten land!! but pakistan wants the indian part of kashmir!! which is a fact that is un-deniable!!!! the terror outfits operating in pakistan are primarily the reason for the western outburst!!

your govt is just 9months old zardari isn't completely trusted by ur people!!!!! the problem is that many of your own people are invoveld in anti-society activities!! including terrorism!! hence trusting pakistan.. is the last thing the west could do!!!!
now... INDIA believes in non-allignment!! its individuality is its speciality!! it willl surely help Pakistan! if it shows some transparency!!!

JAI HIND

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Post #5
Naveed Jamil wroteon December 14, 2008 at 4:42am
OMG If ever u have free time u must take a look @ history of kashmir since the Independence of PAKISTAN !! U r an educated person im sure ull understand :p

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Post #6
Ahmed Hassan Khan (Pakistan) wroteon December 14, 2008 at 6:01am
oi indians ko sirf aik nuclear bomb dikhane ki zaroorat hai....khoodi late jain ge...

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Post #7
Anum Iftikhar (Kinnaird College for Women) replied to Vishno's poston December 23, 2008 at 10:58am
You and your fellow Indians will be in for one hell of a battle because we Pakistanis are not weak, disgusting, dark and skinny Indians.

We're Pakistanis, and we will end ENDia once and for all.

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Post #8
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Mohammad Shoaib replied to Vishno's poston December 23, 2008 at 11:14am
So yyou mean we dont trust paki governemtn
and indian governemnt is realy very good thats why people hated them soo much and forced them to ressign ?
First improve your country then talk about someone else
Yeh our lives are so insecure and yours are realy very safee..
did you forget about those 16 brave people who made the whole mumbai hostage?
so called your biggest army took 3 days to get jsut 16 people. DId you forget that?
They even have guts too enter inside the building by windows. they have to use the gas
thats what your commandos are?

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Post #9
Mohammad Shoaib replied to Vishno's poston December 23, 2008 at 11:15am
OUR OWN people are involved in antisociety activiites > Ok i agree
Then read about your bloody army

what the hell is this then. THis is reported by ur own media

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080072765

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Post #10
Hasan Jamshed (Pakistan) wroteon December 23, 2008 at 2:22pm
almost every Pakistan will want to volunteer but we cant do much good for the Army in Battle can we?

although if the occasion calls for it we will volunteer count on it !

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Post #11
Vipul Aggarwal (Birla Institute of Technology & Science) wroteon December 23, 2008 at 11:33pm
listen dudes......
u can fight it out here....
bt dont thnk f fighting in a rel battle..
coz if the educated youth of the country thnks like dis....
well i can xpect the illiterate politicians gonna do....
rather dan pin pointing finger at each oder......
v shuld accept wats wrng wid ones countries......
no country is perfect....bt if u start rating ur imperfections more than ur perfections...i get the idea where v all r heading........

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Post #12
Asif Ali Zardari (Pakistan) wroteon December 23, 2008 at 11:40pm
i will shift my money abroad if attack happens.

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Post #13
Vipul Aggarwal (Birla Institute of Technology & Science) wroteon December 23, 2008 at 11:54pm
@ mohhamed shoaib

well if u thnk dat those assholes who spoil religion of islam, tarnish its image, cause sterotyping of all muslims as terrorists...are brave.....dan dude.....
u probably bcum 1 in near future......and dat will b reli sad.......
jst stop sympathising wid these son of bitches n u will surely c dat ur country wont b n "international migraine"..its newly acquired status........

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Vipul Aggarwal (Birla Institute of Technology & Science) wroteon December 24, 2008 at 12:06am
@ amed hassan khan
Fst jst chk whether ur nukes r controlled by ur govt. or the terrorist grps fr wich u ppl have so much sympathy ???

n if u thnk pakistan or for dat matter e1 india will use nukes, v wil b starting world war 3.......so talk a bit snse. wil u???
if u reli love ur country so much, dan start educting ppl .....so dat dey dont follow in d footsteps of the xtremist majority.....itz a difficlt job ahead....
bt dats whereis d true test f ur love lies ................

u c in a war....no side gains....u can killa 1000 indians, v kill 1000 pakis...n in d end dere will b ceasefire wid no side gaining n both side losing dere precious manpower..............so thnk and write....

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Post #15
Vipul Aggarwal (Birla Institute of Technology & Science) wroteon December 24, 2008 at 12:09am
@ anum iftikar

jst read my prior posts n u will get d msg ......
n plzz mind ur tongue ....
is dere ny inslt used fr pakistanis ????
no.. so u better keep ur tongue in chk...
though it hardly matters...bt it show hw u have been brought up .........

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Post #16
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Ahmed Hassan Khan (Pakistan) wroteon December 24, 2008 at 4:08am
mr. vipul seems to sensible person,but ppl whom he's sayin terrorist are patriotist,and fighting against the atrocious rule of indians in JAMMU KASHMIR,for their just cause,accredited by the UN SECURITY COUNCIL...this thing indians dont undrstnd...

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Post #17
Mohammad Shoaib replied to Vipul's poston December 24, 2008 at 7:37am
Hey you guys have same sympathy for terrorist ... Toooo
the samjhota express train blast was done by your army offficer
why you didnt arrest him yet?

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Post #18
Anjum Shahzad (Pakistan) wroteon December 25, 2008 at 3:36pm
AOA,
I Truly liked the Forum in 1 sense tht WE ALL HAVE A HEART WHICH WANA C PAKISTAN TRULY GROWING AND A BLESSED&THE VERY BEST PLACE OF THE WORLD..
I hav a Q,,as they say LEADERS R THE REFLECTION OF A NATION..
it can't be more truer than in case of Mr Zardari,
DOES MR ZARDARI DO ANY THING WHICH NATION( OR SHALL I CALL 'WE')R'NT DOING??
We ALL R CORRUPT,SO,IS HE
V ALL MISUSE OUR AUTHORITY IN ANY CAPCITY V R PLACED..SO IS HE
& THE LIST GOES ON&ON...
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SO,DEARS,My humble SUBMISSION is(4u&Myself )CHANGE URSELF & SYSYTEM'S CHANGE WOULD FOLLOW,4SURE..
AS THEY SAY
" WE ALL THINK OF CHANGING THE WORLD BUT NO ONE THINKS OF CHANGING HIMSELF "
Last but not the Least:
DEARS HATRED HAV NEVER BROUGHT ANY CAHNGE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD EVER,ALL IT PRODUCES IS " DESTRUCTION "..
Have V ever PRAYED 4 MR ZARDARI&THE NATION THAT THEY TRULY CHANGE..??
LETS ALL DO THAT,PLEASEEE&WORK 4 IT..
LETS GIFT PAKISTAN SOMETHING, TRULY
"" THE ONLY TRUE GIFT IS A PORTION OF URSELF ""

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Post #19
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Vipul Aggarwal (Birla Institute of Technology & Science) replied to Ahmed's poston December 27, 2008 at 3:46am
listen , its a fact dat j&k was never a part of pakistan...its last ruler hari singh himself hnded over d state 2 india fearing an attck frm jst created pakistan...
n if u ppl instead f fighting a true war fight a proxy war....n in dat process dere mite be civilian casualities accidental as well as intentional... listen d thing is j&k and pakistan has nt developed bcoz f dis terrorist problm...u can c d stats ...pakistan is getting isolated day by day...do u really thnk a piece f land is wrth more dan ur country's dvelpment wen in d fst place dat land does nt e belong 2 u ??????

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Post #20
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Shahzad Akbar (London) wroteon December 27, 2008 at 9:50am
first of all its nice to see patriotism in ppl and in Anum Iftikhar but the fact is its not that easy to finish India, WAR IS NOT A CHILD'S PLAY, its a big thing which obviously wud HIT any country BADLY.

Vipul is right to some extend thst pakistani ppl dun have trust in Zardari and govt is only 9 mnths old so things in Pakistan are not good BUT Mr Vipul is wrong where he under estimates pakistan. Dude Firstly WAR cannot happen - NO WAY - India cannot afford war and if America support India in funding then nucelar comes in which makes WAR NOT TO OCCUR. and God Forbid if it happens im not being patriotic or something TRUST ME PAKISTAN ARMY HAS DONE IT BEFORE AND THEY CAN DO IT AGAIN......U GUYS HAVE AIRFORCE ........WE HAVE MISSILES-------- IT WONT BE EASY TO DESTORY PAKISTAN - NOT AT ALL - PAKISTAN NATION IS VERY EMOTIONAL NATION, it will be extremely EXTREMELY hard to destroy pakistan, even though America will support u but still.....

So calm down and relax there is no War Happening and if somehow it happens our GOVT MIGHT BE CORRUPT but India has to deal 16 crore nation.

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Post #21
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Vipul Aggarwal (Birla Institute of Technology & Science) replied to Shahzad's post20 hours ago
dude...
eiter ur stats r wrng...
v dont require ny funding frm us...
it was pakistan wich was always sucking up 2 usa fr more military power...
bt u r ryt on 1 thng both cuntry cant afford war...simply bcoz fr u it wuld b the end of d road....
n for india bcoz dat war culd lead 2 world war 3 n our country wuld nvr want 2 b remembered as initiator of it.....
jst thnk dude...
the economic conditions n the reputations ...
pakistan is considered as terrorist's holy land n an international migraine.....
n 2 b honest being our neighbour it is affecting our repu. too.....
jst last wrd...ck d war results f all the previously fought wars n the methods pakistan's army use 2 fight...more f a guerilla warfare(proxy fighter).........

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Post #22
Siddhant Singh wrote17 hours ago
I'm Indian, support a plebiscite in Kashmir, think Pakistan's government is not in control, India needs to rein in the hindu extremists, but Pakistan also needs to engineer a massive change when it comes to the spread of radical Islam.
India needs to stop talking of bombing Pakistan and bossing it around, Pakistan is a sovereign nation, it deserves respect. Pakistan needs to stop fooling around and shut down the terror camps. Yes Kashmir is a contentious issue, but if the state allows violence to serve as a legitimate means of solving the crisis, then that will sully its credibility.
Politicians of both sides need to shut the hell up. Forget a war, talk of a war is what they want. Tensions get politicians easy votes. And India should complete the investigation into the mumbai attacks formally, then accuse Pakistan. While they know it is true that the terrorists belonged to a Pakistani organization, we have botched investigations in the past, and might as well seal the case, THEN point fingers and put Pakistan under pressure. Pakistan is actually bending over to admit there's a problem, let's not get hyper-active and expect too much. It is DIFFICULT for Pakistani politicians to cater to our whims. They have their own votebank to appease. And in case an India-Pakistan war occurs, all you immature folks who are so proudly proclaiming India/Pakistan's resilience, I'll tell you what'll happen. Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, Delhi and Mumbai will no longer exist. If you don't live in these cities, then you need to shut up, cause the sacrifice
 won't be yours. Nukes suck. And both countries have them. It takes no balls to kill people. It takes guts not to. That's why Gandhi, Mandela and Gaffar Khan are greater men than Nehru, Zia-Ul-Haq and any other post-independence leaders.

Peace, mates.
May we be able to treat each other with the respect we all deserve. Let us make an effort to convey to the other side that we too are people like them, so that they can relate to us. Let them see we are human, so when the time comes for destruction, our conscience bites at us before we kill our brothers.

P.S. Annum Iftikhar, you're pathetic. If being dark/skinny was a criterion for inferiority, then we should all have stayed slaves of the British. Pakistanis are, on average, half a shade lighter-skinned than the average Indian. And fifteen shades darker than every white person on the planet. Don;t dig your own grave. Have some confidence in the way you look. And don't use your camera flash too much.
Imagine what a laugh the skinheads must be having at listening to you call other brown people "dark". And I'm having one to. Hahaha

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Post #23
Siddhant Singh replied to Mohammad's post17 hours ago
I lost friends in Mumbai. I think you need to shut the fuck up. If those dudes are what you're proud of, then you live a sad life, man.

I think we both need to talk AND improve both our countries at the same time. We both have problems, and we should be pressurized into dealing with them. If only he who is not a sinner could blame someone, there's be no accusations at all.

And if you legitimise the kind of violence that happened in Mumbai, the death of innocent civilians, that's just SO sad. And the people who condone the deaths of innocent civilians in Kashmir at the hands of the Indian army and the terrorists are equally pathetic. Join the club.

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Post #24
Shahzad Akbar (London) replied to Vipul's post15 hours ago
First of all this is the reason i dun have a conversation all da time in discussion cuz ppl like u start fughting.

why did u say " it was pakistan wich was always sucking up 2 usa fr more military power "

newaz ill make it clear for the last time and even then if u come wid ur arguments then upto u.

FIRSTLY - INDIA CANNOT DARE TO FIGHT WID PAKISTAN SO THERE IS NO WAR. if u want to come up wid some scientfic calculation then thats fine but INDIA cannot and Nore pakistan can cuz pakistan is not in a state to attack India, Pakistan ki apni halat itnee kharab hai so they cant attack but India also CANNOT. " Fullstop "

and if for instant it happens india wud do it wid the support of America now i dun know y dun u beleive this cuz ur Indian patriotism does not allow u to do so. Dude America wants to destroy Pakistan (which they wont be able to), and they will do it THROUGH INDIA BY SUPPORTING INDIA IN THE NAME OF TERRORISM. ADMIT THIS.

and yes i agree we have a reputation of terrorist country all over the globe I am not denying that. All am i saying nothing is gonna happen chill and next time wen u have an argument wid some sensible person have a CONVERSATION IN A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT SO OTHERS CAN ALSO GAIN INFORMATION AND WE CUD LEAD TO SOME ANSWERs

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Post #25
Ahmed Hassan Khan (Pakistan) replied to Vipul's post13 hours ago
but ppl of kashmir,junagarh,manawadr(might be old names) voted for pakistan,and prince of hyderabad also askd pak to take the state,but bcz as muslims,we were honest,we respected the pact, and again,hindus didnt respectd the pact....shows their morality level...

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Post #26
Hasan Jamshed (Pakistan) wrote12 hours ago
why dont we just ask the ppl of j&k wht do they want?
if they want to join Pakistan then India shuld back off
if they want to join India then Pakistan shuld back off
if they want to become a free state then both shuld back off

doesnt get any simpler than this :D

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Post #27
Vipul Aggarwal (Birla Institute of Technology & Science) wrote10 hours ago
@ahmed
i dont get y do u ppl hve so much thing dat it shuld j&k shuld b didvide on religion ????
if religion means so much dan all those killings, r dey jstified ???

@shahzad

fighting ???
jst chk wat d fuckin bullshit u ppl r throwing ???
its nt e1 a bit reality .....war ...pakistan defend itself...nt a sngle bit.....thnk b4 u write dude...no hard feelings attchd....bt if u like ur oder mates too respect these terrorists...well dan talkin hardly will make diffrence.....

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Post #28
You replied to Mohammad's post2 seconds ago
hmmm so you think those people who held unarmed men, women and children were brave. Yes, they did not fear for their lives and were quite well trained.. Perhaps India should do a similar thing - attack the training camps of these "brave" men without actually attacking Pakistan. Perhaps India should send in its own troops in the guise of misguided youth (as during Kargil 1999 Pakistani soldiers dressed as "brave men" entered and attacked India and did not flinch when Pakistan said that these "brave" guys did not belong to their nation.

I admit it would be some amount of bravery to be disowned by one's own country while serving it -- maybe it would be foolhardiness too. Regular soldiers are ready to die in battle being assured that they would be declared martyrs and their families taken care of.

I think India should learn from these "brave" guys who held India hostage - and create a temperament whereby some of its soldiers agree to/volunteer to die an unknown soldier's death while destroying LET and Taliban training camps (if they do exist - most likely they do) in Pakistan.

God bless us all.

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