[Assam] [ISAPindia] Digest Number 1166

Tue Jan 22 23:25:23 PST 2008

<It is a temporary bonanza, because the pests are going to become immune to Bt toxin too, similar to other insecticides. But they would enjoy high yields at least for the next couple of years.> Sir, Do not Underestimate analytical/empirical Science. Do not behave like Vandana Shiva all the time. Do not under-estimate the West. Do not write them off yet!  Learn all about BT -and improve on it- if you can.
Meanwhile quietly make hay when the Sun shines.
Who laughs Thrice?
BR
MM

Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 06:21:07 +0000From: rsanthanam_delhi at yahoo.comSubject: Fwd: [ISAPindia] Digest Number 1166To: mikemahant at hotmail.com; svarghese at iatp.org; rohit.pathania at gmail.com
ISAPindia at yahoogroups.com wrote:Date: 22 Jan 2008 14:14:25 -0000From: ISAPindia at yahoogroups.comTo: ISAPindia at yahoogroups.comSubject: [ISAPindia] Digest Number 1166
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Messages In This Digest (2 Messages) 
1a. Bt cotton From: adkarve 
2a. biodynamic agriculture From: R. Santhanam 
1a. Bt cotton Posted by: "adkarve" adkarve at pn2.vsnl.net.in Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:06 am (PST) About a month ago, I was in Yeotmal District of Vidarbh, Maharashtra, and was surprised to see the bumper crop of cotton. Normally one sees only about 5 bolls per plant in this area, but this year I saw 50 to 60 bolls per plant. Farmers complained of labour shortage to pick the cotton. This is due to Bt cotton. It is a temporary bonanza, because the pests are going to become immune to Bt toxin too, similar to other insecticides. But they would enjoy high yields at least for the next couple of years.
Yours
A.D.Karve
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2a. biodynamic agriculture Posted by: "R. Santhanam" rsanthanam_delhi at yahoo.com   puredelhi Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:07 am (PST) 22 January 2008

Dear Dr A.D Karve,

Your observation is most relevant and critical for success or failure of agriculture not only in India but elsewhere. Why? 

Modern agricultural system based on supply of inputs to the farming land as macro and micronutrients is based on the law of conservation of mass. Another facet is that chemistry or chemical technology is based on observations of inorganic and organic chemical reactions which are also subject to laws of conservation of mass. While it has worked so far, it has also introduced many unintended ill effects.Hence it is at best an imperfect technology.

Supposing you were to introduce a new hypothesis. This hypothesis states that while there is no argument that law of conservation of mass works, supposing you include biological effects on chemical reactions. Something unexplaned happens. One explanation is biological transmutation of elements. (Kevran Paris and Thomas Gold Cornell - "Dep Hot Biosphere") You do a Google serch you will come across lot of discussions on this.
This approach would be similar to what Einstein did to Newton's laws. The latest is the String Theory which attempts to solve anamolies unexplained by Einsten's theory of relativity but it is stil not fully developed, but offers some facinating lectures on plausible explanations / hypotheses.

Have you also listened to Richard Feyman lectures? Although dated, they show a liberal thinker.

You must be aware of the quantum mechanics and how it is apparently stuck with some unexplained phenomena or anamolies.

We can also hazard a guess as as to how did the early or first colonisers of the plant kingdom survive on apparently barren soil in the premordial times? There was no previous organic matter. There must have been interdependent support systems in a symbiotic relationship with the early plant colonisers. These could have been microbial life forms. They must still be around or not?

I myself had never heard of this until one day I met Dr Uday Bhawalkar at Delhi. He told me to look up all this, by Google Search of course. Another explanation offered is that of his theory of nitrates and its effects on biotic and abiotic forms of matter, observable as resultant phenomenna.

Perhaps we need to develp new approaches. He uses a natural enzyme. Now enzymatic catalysts are among the latest in R&D in the U.S and elsewhere in leading R&D institutions.Are enzymes living or non living? Google search for this question shows 1,97,000 web sites.His Biocatlyst Sujala acts through aqueous media. Now the structure of water itself is being debated upon with new explanations. 

Try this web site for example: http://www.i-sis.org.uk/water3.php

I leave you to draw your own conclusions! Somebody has to make a nice "Kitchdi" out of it!

Regards

Sincerely,
R. Santhanam

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