[Assam] House and Home

Sun Jan 27 19:22:22 PST 2008

>  >> tongue is as nuanced as the highly evolved Hindi that you > 
>confronted them with examples :-).
>That's just to make it easy for people to understand. Do I see a 
>defensive mode in you instead when it comes to Hindi? :)

**** No! I don't look askance at other's languages to value mine.

I wouldn't wish to question your motives here A, but it wasn't hard 
to read into the responses of others.

At 9:10 PM -0600 1/27/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
>  >The significance of a 'home' in one's psyche lies in what memories 
>it >holds for her. Those who grew up in many places, moving with 
>their >families' job transfers or what have you, would have very 
>little >attachments to a house as a 'home', even if the quality of 
>the >environment might have been just as memorable and dear. On the 
>other >hand someone who grew up in a shelter, however humble, in a 
>loving >and caring environment, will hold the memories of that house 
>as a >'home' quite dear. And no matter how clearly words distinguish 
>the >meanings of the two in a language, it would not have any impact 
>on >one's perception of that shelter as a mere house or a dear home.
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>True, C'da. I would be the last one to deny that for others, though 
>I personally don't care for this kind of sentiment. Life has taught 
>me to be overly practical, and sometimes that leads me to think that 
>I am above and beyond these things - a superiority complex, you 
>might say. And I know that is not very nice at all, when I am 
>leaning towards spirituality. Anyway!!
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>But, but, but... if suddenly distant relatives start doing this 
>'sokut tel di kaanda', then the need to remind them and tell them 
>the difference between a "house" and a loving "home" that used to 
>be, does arise. Ask them why this sudden 'lerela xaador' - this 
>false 'dorod'.
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>>  bhaxa distinguishing a 'home' from a mere 'house', it still would 
>>not > resolve your conflicts, would it?
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>It may not resolve the conflict, but would be a good one to put 
>forward a question to let them know that they are acting like a 
>bunch of ostriches.
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>BTW, there is no conflict. :) Everything is hunky dory at my end. :)
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>  > tongue is as nuanced as the highly evolved Hindi that you > 
>confronted them with examples :-).
>That's just to make it easy for people to understand. Do I see a 
>defensive mode in you instead when it comes to Hindi? :)
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>"In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree 
>and humble like a blade of grass"
>- Lakshmana
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>  > Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:09:37 -0600> To: assam at assamnet.org> 
>From: cmahanta at charter.net> Subject: [Assam] House and Home> > Well, 
>Alpana, I think you have mixed up two different issues: One of > a 
>social evolution with that of semantics.> > Even if you had two 
>distinctly different single words in Oxomiya > bhaxa distinguishing 
>a 'home' from a mere 'house', it still would not > resolve your 
>conflicts, would it?> > The significance of a 'home' in one's psyche 
>lies in what memories it > holds for her. Those who grew up in many 
>places, moving with their > families' job transfers or what have 
>you, would have very little > attachments to a house as a 'home', 
>even if the quality of the > environment might have been just as 
>memorable and dear. On the other > hand someone who grew up in a 
>shelter, however humble, in a loving > and caring environment, will 
>hold the memories of that house as a > 'home' quite dear. And no 
>matter how clearly words distinguish the > meanings of the two in a 
>language, it would not have any impact on > one's perception of that 
>shelter as a mere house or a dear home.> > That is the 
>difference.> > So, why did I even chime in?> > For the simple reason 
>of detecting a sense of defensiveness in > respondents scurrying to 
>grab this Sanskrit word or that few Oxomiyas > use in their 
>communications; no doubt to prove that their mother > tongue is as 
>nuanced as the highly evolved Hindi that you > confronted them with 
>examples :-).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:23 PM -0600 
>1/27/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:> >Hi C'da:> >> >> I think we 
>are attempting to split hairs over nothing.> >> >:) Right, right, in 
>general we should not, and never split hairs > >over things. :)> > > 
>Just because another language differentiates between a house 
>and > >a > home, and Oxomiya does not, one does not need to go into 
>a fit of> >Yes, the keyword is "need".> >> >If you have not noticed, 
>the need to define a "house" and a "home" > >have arisen in today's 
>Assam. People are not that simple anymore. I > >get "culture-shock" 
>every time I go to India now-a-days, a place > >that I was born and 
>grew up in and had 'faith' in.> >> >Some do become interested after 
>a HOUSE for which they were never > >"interested" when it was a HOME 
>- filled with people that welcomed > >them with love and 
>warmth.> >> >See the need now C'da? I definitely 
>do.> >> >> >> >> >> >> grabbing at Sanskrit words that few use. For 
>us 'ghor' is a > >>ghor--a > house and a home too. The difference 
>lies in HOW it is > >>used in a > sentence. There are many such 
>nuances to all languages. > >>The > differentiation lies in the 
>usage.> >> >> >> >> >"In order to make spiritual progress you must 
>be patient like a tree > >and humble like a blade of grass"> >- 
>Lakshmana> >> >> > > Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:54:44 -0600> To: 
>assam at assamnet.org> > >From: cmahanta at charter.net> Subject: Re: 
>[Assam] (no subject)> > > I > >think we are attempting to split 
>hairs over nothing.> > Just because > >another language 
>differentiates between a house and a > home, and > >Oxomiya does 
>not, one does not need to go into a fit of > grabbing > >at Sanskrit 
>words that few use. For us 'ghor' is a ghor--a > house > >and a home 
>too. The difference lies in HOW it is used in a > > >sentence. There 
>are many such nuances to all languages. The > > >differentiation 
>lies in the usage.> > > > > > > > > > > At 6:00 PM > >-0600 1/26/08, 
>kamal deka wrote:> >HOUSE = BHOBON / AWAKH > >/GRIHO> >HOME = GRIHO 
>BAKH /GHOR> >KJD> >> >> >On 1/26/08, Alpana B. > >Sarangapani 
><absarangapani at hotmail.com> wrote:> >>> >>> >> Does > >anybody know 
>if there are separate words for "home" and "house" > >in> >> 
>Assamese? I know we use 'ghor' .> >>> >> But if you need 
>to > >assert the real meanings of a "real" home and just a> >> house 
>with > >4 walls, what are they?> >>> >> I believe it is 'ghar`' for 
>home and > >'makaan' for house in Hindi.> >>> >> Thanks for 
>your > >help.> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> "In order to make 
>spiritual > >progress you must be patient like a tree and> >> humble 
>like a blade > >of grass"> >> - 
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