[Assam] Fwd: Re: Los Angeles Times on Northeast India
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at charter.net
Tue Jun 3 10:28:23 PDT 2008
At 12:14 PM -0500 6/3/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
>In short, why not India just give in to everybody's 'khwab'?
***That is yet another expression of the absence
of creativity , flexibility and a determination
to find solutions for problems that mark the
Indian attitude, which willingly accepts the
perfunctory and the ritual as the real thing,
never mind results; a 'xaliki-snan' even in
'geleki-gonga' as an acceptable substitute for
real piety.
Why do I say that? Because, "---just give in to
everybody's 'khwab" is NOT the ONLY alternative
here. But it takes creativity and an attitude for
problem solving, where desirable results are the
only acceptable outcomes. Not excuses, not
perfunctory motions.
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>> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:06:17 -0500> To:
>>assam at assamnet.org> From: cmahanta at charter.net>
>>Subject: Re: [Assam] Fwd: Re: Los Angeles Times
>>on Northeast India> > > >I don't know why govt.
>>of India could not win over B'desh to get the
>>transit> >rights. Every time a new government
>>takes charge, we enthusiastically talk> >of a
>>favorable climate; every time the same story
>>repeats. We are also> >reluctant to take any
>>mediator who could show reasons and objectivity
>>to> B'desh.> > > > > **** Nor do many others
>>Manoj. It is India's inability to change from >
>>the rut it has created for itself, a mind set
>>that it cannot change. > The same mind-set that
>>does not bend to respond to the needs of
>>their > fellow men, while holding on to dogmas
>>and self-imposed 'rules' that > they hold
>>sacrosanct and infallible producing results
>>like:> > *** Bhopal tragedy victims --who got
>>little , while the > rulers held onto hopes for
>>imprisoning> Union Carbide CEO.> > *** Holding
>>on to the real estate of Kashmir while gladly >
>>sacrificing hundreds of thousands> of their own
>>people's lives.> > *** Annihilating hundreds of
>>thousands Nagas, Mizos, Oxomiyas > and other
>>kins of ours> but holding on to the real-estate
>>without a flexible or > sincere approach
>>towards a political> settlement.> > *** Letting
>>the people of the NE suffer the consequences
>>of > depriving the Brahmaputra> waterway for
>>navigation to satisfy its needs to be 'tough' >
>>with them Miyas of B'desh.> > *** Unable to
>>reform its dysfunctional institutions of
>>state > like the 'bureaucratic system', its
>>law> enforcement , its laws and its courts and
>>system of justice, > its electoral system, its>
>>educational systems, its public health system,
>>ad nauseum.> > One can go on and on.> > And our
>>intelligentsia, remains ignorant and
>>apathetic.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>At 9:56 PM +0530 6/3/08, Manoj Das wrote:> >Hi
>>C-da> >> >I really don't understand this
>>diplomacy much! But what I understand
>>is> >that, at large, a nation has to behave
>>like a good conscientious citizen in> >the
>>comity. It has to be strong yet compassionate,
>>shrewd yet considerate,> >should know how to
>>use "*xam dam dondo bhed*" to achieve its goals
>>of> >national interest.> >> >I don't know why
>>govt. of India could not win over B'desh to get
>>the transit> >rights. Every time a new
>>government takes charge, we enthusiastically
>>talk> >of a favorable climate; every time the
>>same story repeats. We are also> >reluctant to
>>take any mediator who could show reasons and
>>objectivity to> >B'desh.> >> >-mkd> >> >> >On
>>Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Chan Mahanta
>><cmahanta at charter.net>
>>wrote:> >> >>> >> > >International diplomacy
>>requires more than just dialog. India is not
>>a> >> good> >> >brother in its neighborhood;
>>disliked by everyone..we may blame> >>
>>conveniently> >> on foreign
>>hand..:)> >>> >>> >> *** Exactly! And thus
>>B'desh "FRUSTRATING" India's attempts at> >>
>>opening up navigation is not an accurate
>>portrayal of the situation,> >> is it? It is an
>>attempt to portray B'desh as the bad-guys here.
>>That> >> is why I asked the question I
>>did.> >>> >> That however is NOT to be
>>construed as my holding up B'desh as the> >>
>>GOOD guys, as some will surely do. The point
>>is, as you say,> >> "---International diplomacy
>>requires more than just dialog". There> >> have
>>to be gives and takes.> >>> >> Question is what
>>has India DONE in that front? Has "democratic"
>>India> >> EVER shared with its people, what it
>>has offered B'desh, for what ;> >> or what
>>B'desh demanded for what, so that a public
>>dialog can ensue,> >> or so the public can
>>gauge its rulers' SINCERITY in these> >>
>>'negotiations'?> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> At
>>9:47 AM +0530 6/3/08, Manoj Das
>>wrote:> >> >C-da> >> >> >> >Well, Govt. of
>>India has been holding talks with Bangladeshi
>>counterparts> >> >through direct channel..
>>Bangladesh could never forgive India for
>>the> >> >Farakka
>>barrage.> >> >> >> >International diplomacy
>>requires more than just dialog. India is not
>>a> >> good> >> >brother in its neighborhood;
>>disliked by everyone..we may blame> >>
>>conveniently> >> >on foreign
>>hand..:)> >> >> >> >mkd> >> >> >> >On Mon, Jun
>>2, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Chan Mahanta
>><cmahanta at charter.net>> >> wrote:> >> >> >> >>
>>M:> >> >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >> > > Number one
>>is Bangladesh, which is> >> >> >constantly
>>frustrating India's efforts to get transit
>>through the male> >> >>
>>river> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ***
>>What do we know about what INDIA has been doing
>>to get B'deshi> >> >> co-operation to get river
>>access to Assam and the region ?> >> >>> >> >>
>>Has Indian govt. told us what it has been doing
>>all these decades,> >> >> and how B' or why
>>B'desh has been FRUSTRATING
>>it?> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> As you can imagine,
>>these efforts always involve give and take.
>>Just> >> >> demands and/or intimidation does
>>not bring results. Have Indian> >> >>
>>officialdom ever brought the people into
>>confidence and shared their> >> >> negotiating
>>stances and the B'deshi responses
>>?> >> >>> >> >> I am sure the people of Assam
>>would want to know that. Wouldn't
>>you?> >> >>> >> >>
>>c-da> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>>At 9:41 AM +0530 6/2/08, Manoj Das
>>wrote:> > > >> >I was thinking this all
>>along!> >> >> >> >> >> >When I shared this news
>>with a Japanese thinker from ADB, he was> >>
>>stunned..> >> >> >There are many players in
>>this. Number one is Bangladesh, which
>>is> >> >> >constantly frustrating India's
>>efforts to get transit through the
>>male> >> >> >river. Secondly a grand politics
>>of undermining Assam's destined> >>
>>position> >> >> as> >> >> >the land bridge
>>between giant Asian land and economic
>>masses.> >> >> >> >> >> >mkd> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On
>>Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Dilip&Dil Deka
>><dilipdeka at yahoo.com>> >> >>
>>wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>Forwarding.> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Dilip&Dil Deka
>><dilipdeka at yahoo.com> wrote: Date: Sun, 1 Jun
>>2008> >> >> >> 20:58:13 -0700 (PDT)> >> >> >>
>>From: Dilip&Dil Deka
>><dilipdeka at yahoo.com>> >> >> >> Subject: Re:
>>[Assam] Los Angeles Times on Northeast
>>India> >> >> >> To: baruah at bard.edu,
>>cmahanta at charter.net> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Dear
>>Sanjib,> >> >> >> You said, "But are they
>>producing or is it only assembling> >>
>>products.> >> >> I> >> >> >> don't know the
>>answer. "> >> >> >> Even Assembling products is
>>better than not doing anything. Mexico> >>
>>is> >> >> >> making a lot of money assembling
>>products for USA. Assembling> >>
>>products> >> >> >> eventually leads to local
>>production if the local entrepreneurs> >> mean
>>to> >> >> take> >> >> >> part in the
>>process.> >> >> >> Car battery industry is a
>>good example. As I understand, back in> >> >>
>>seventies> >> >> >> batteries were assembled in
>>Assam. I heard that most of the parts> >>
>>are> >> >> now> >> >> >> made in Assam. Is it
>>true?> >> >> >> Dilipda> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
>>baruah at bard.edu wrote:> >> >> >> Dear Dilipda
>>and Mahanta,> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Good hearing
>>from you. I am skeptical, as Mahanta has noted.
>>But> >> not> >> >> >> because a lot new is not
>>taking place -- but because things that> >>
>>are> >> >> >> crucial for a breakthrough are
>>not happenning. There is a much more> >> > > >>
>>affluent India, and many in Delhi are genuinely
>>committed to doing> >> >> >> more. So if
>>earlier we talked about 100 crores, now the
>>language is> >> of> >> >> >> 1000 crores. But
>>is money enough? Domestic policy and
>>foreign> >> policy> >> > > >> cannot be
>>separated when it comes to Northeast India.
>>Our> >> relations> >> >> >> with China may be
>>improving in many ways, but not when it comes
>>to> >> >> >> Arunchal Pradesh. Only last summer
>>China has begun referring to AP> >>
>>as> >> >> >> China's Southern Tibet. So long as
>>the Burmese military regime is> >> >> >> there,
>>huge amount of foreign funds are not going to
>>move in to> >> build> >> >> >> infrastructure
>>in Burma. Indian money or Chinese money can do
>>a> >> little> >> >> >> bit of this and that,
>>but not the funds that could be mobilized
>>for> >> >> >> Northeast india to benefit from
>>India's Look East policy. No matter> >> >> >>
>>how much we shout about Bangladesh's animosity,
>>the burden of> >> normal> >> >> >> relations is
>>on the bigger neighbour as in all such cases of
>>a> >> country> >> >> >> that is far more
>>resourceful than the aggreived smaller
>>neighbor.> >> We> >> >> >> may be landocked by
>>India, said a Bangladeshi foreign minister,
>>but> >> >> >> Northeast india is landlocked by
>>us. So the military man's vision> > >
>>of> >> >> >> the Look East policy -- linking up
>>with the Burmese or the> >>
>>Bangaldeshi> >> >> >> army to get support for
>>their anti-insurgency operations--is a
>>very> >> >> >> poor substitute to the huge leap
>>of resources -- material as well> >>
>>as> >> >> >> intellectual -- that is needed for
>>the task. At the same time I am> >> >> >>
>>willing to say that we do not know the
>>implications of some of the> >> >> >> huge
>>amount of money that is being spent. There are
>>about 15 daily> >> >> >> flights from Delhi to
>>Guwahati -- more than any other comparable> >>
>>city.> >> >> > > There is much more energetic
>>road-building (and the massive> >> >> >>
>>disappearance of trees and of the familiar
>>surroundings around the> >> >> >> trunk road)
>>etc etc. I know the planes carry many
>>businessmen> >> taking> >> >> >> advantage of
>>the tax benefits of investing in the region.
>>But are> >> they> >> >> >> producing or is it
>>only assembling products. I don't know the> > >
>>answer.> >> >> >> But we surely need a new
>>language to talk about the region --> >> >> >>
>>certainty "neglect" is not what is happenning
>>any more.> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Hope all is
>>well.> >> >> >>> >> >> >> With warm
>>regards,> >> >> >>> >> >> >>
>>Sanjib> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Quoting
>>Chan Mahanta :> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > Thanks for
>>sharing the article
>>Baruah.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > But I share
>>your skepticism. We have heard these for
>>decades on> >> end> >> >> >> > now. The
>>politicians attempt to take credit for
>>imaginary> >> >> >> > achievements and
>>establishment spokespersons paint rosy> >>
>>scenarios, in> >> >> >> > the air. But what has
>>the reality been?> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>m> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>At 8:33 PM -0400 5/30/08, baruah at bard.edu
>>wrote:> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >>
>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-india29-2008may29,0,6712115.story> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>>From the Los Angeles Times> >> >> >> >>
>>Northeast India is poised to tap economic
>>potential> >> >> >> >> The eight-state area
>>plans multiple projects to increase its> >>
>>trade> >> >> >> >> with Southeast
>>Asia.> >> >> >> >> By Shankhadeep
>>Choudhury> >> >> >> >> Los Angeles Times Staff
>>Writer> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> May 29,
>>2008> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> NEW DELHI -
>>India's remote northeast region has been
>>both> >> blessed> >> >> and> >> >> >> >> cursed
>>by its geography. The region is rich in natural
>>resources> >> but> >> >> >> >> is landlocked
>>and surrounded by China, Myanmar, Bangladesh
>>and> >> >> Bhutan,> >> >> >> >> leaving it
>>impoverished.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> The
>>eight-state region may finally get a chance to
>>start living> >> up> >> >> to> >> >> >> >> its
>>economic potential with several projects to
>>enhance> >> connections> >> >> >> >> with
>>Southeast Asia and to increase outlets for such
>>commodities> >> as> >> >> >> >> organic foods,
>>orchids, tea, coal and
>>oil.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Now, the only
>>way to move major quantities of goods
>>between> >> >> northeast> >> >> >> >> India and
>>Southeast Asia is through
>>Bangladesh.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> But
>>authorities in Myanmar and India are nearing
>>final approval> >> of a> >> >> >> >>
>>$100-million river project giving northeast
>>India direct access> >> to> >> > >
>>the> >> >> >> >> Indian Ocean through Myanmar,
>>said Abhijit Barooah, chairman of> >>
>>the> >> >> >> >> northeastern chapter of the
>>Confederation of Indian Industry,> >> >>
>>India's> >> >> >> >> premier business
>>association.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> The
>>project envisages facilitating movement of
>>cargo from> >> India's> >> > > >> >> Mizoram
>>state to Myanmar's port at Sittwe, via the
>>Kaladan> >> River.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> In
>>addition, talks have begun between companies in
>>northeast> >> India> >> >> and> >> >> >> >>
>>Thailand after a trade-promotion conference in
>>Bangkok in> >> October,> >> >> >> >> said Lemli
>>Loyi, assistant general manager at the
>>state-run> >> North> >> >> >> >> Eastern
>>Development Finance Corp. Loyi expressed hope
>>that the> >> talks> >> >> >> >> would result in
>>increased business and possible joint
>>ventures.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> India first
>>enunciated a "look east" policy, an economic
>>and> > > >> strategic> >> >> >> >> orientation
>>toward Southeast Asia, in 1992. It had its
>>genesis> >> at> >> >> the> >> >> >> >> end of
>>the Cold War, after the collapse of the Soviet
>>Union.> >> Having> >> >> >> >> lost the Soviet
>>economic and political support on which it
>>had> >> >> relied,> >> >> >> >> the Indian
>>government embarked on a program of
>>free-market> >> >> >> >> restructuring at home
>>and sought new markets and economic> >>
>>partners> >> >> >> >>
>>abroad.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Officials
>>envisaged that the eight northeast states --
>>Assam,> >> >> >> >> Meghalaya, Manipur,
>>Nagaland, Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh,
>>Tripura> >> and> >> >> >> >> Mizoram -- would
>>emerge as a trading hub for two dynamic
>>regions> >> >> >> >> connected by a network of
>>highways, railways, pipelines and> >> >> >> >>
>>transmission lines. The region is home to about
>>40 million> >>
>>people.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> But progress
>>has been slow. The region's isolation dates to
>>the> > > >> 1800s.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>>"Nineteenth-century British colonial decisions
>>to draw lines> >> between> >> >> >> >> the
>>hills and the plains, to put barriers on trade
>>between> >> Bhutan> >> >> and> >> >> >> >>
>>Assam, and to treat Burma as a buffer against
>>French Indochina> >> and> >> >> >> >> China
>>severed the region from its traditional trade
>>routes --> >> the> >> >> >> >> southern trails
>>of the Silk Road," said Sanjib Baruah, a> >>
>>professor> >> >> of> >> >> >> >> political
>>science at Bard College in New York and an
>>expert on> >> >> > > >> northeast
>>India.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> The British
>>built railways and roads mostly to take tea,
>>coal,> >> oil> >> >> and> >> >> >> >> other
>>resources out of Assam and into the rest of
>>India and also> >> to> >> >> >> >>
>>Europe.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> The problems
>>increased with the partitioning of India
>>and> >> Pakistan> >> >> in> >> >> >> >> 1947.
>>Bangladesh broke away from Pakistan in the
>>1970s.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Barooah said
>>trade would be boosted by an expected move by
>>the> >> >> Indian> >> >> >> >> and Myanmar
>>governments to expand the list of mostly> >>
>>agricultural> >> >> >> >> commodities allowed
>>to be traded by land between northeast
>>India> >> and> >> >> >> >> Myanmar, from 27 to
>>42 items.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> "The
>>northeast is the closest land mass connecting
>>the dynamic> >> >> >> >> economies of south and
>>Southeast Asia," said Pradyut Bordoloi,> >> >>
>>Assam's> >> >> >> >> minister for power and
>>industries. "Besides deep-rooted
>>cultural> >> >> >> >> linkages, we can reap
>>multidimensional benefits in this era
>>of> >> >> >> >> regional economic
>>cooperation."> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>>Bordoloi is closely associated with a campaign
>>to reopen the> >> World> >> >> War> >> >> >> >>
>>II-era Stillwell Road, connecting Assam's town
>>of Ledo to> >> southwest> >> >> >> >>
>>China.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> "If reopened,
>>this would be the shortest surface route to
>>Yunnan> >> >> >> >> province of China and other
>>Southeast Asian countries hooking> >>
>>onto> >> >> the> >> >> >> >> trans-Asian
>>highways," he said.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>>The road served as the supply line into China
>>during Japan's> >> wartime> >> >> >> >>
>>occupation, but it was shut after India's
>>independence from> >> Britain> >> >>
>>in> >> >> >> >> 1947.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>>Bordoloi said his campaign to reopen the road,
>>initiated after> >> he> >> >> >> >> became a
>>state legislator in 1998, scored a victory when
>>India> >> >> >> >> upgraded the road to a
>>full-fledged national highway, developing> >>
>>it> >> >> up> >> >> >> >> to the Indo-Myanmar
>>border.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Officials say
>>infrastructure development, power,
>>bamboo-based> >> > > >> >> industries, orchids
>>and organic foods are prospective areas
>>of> >> >> >> >> cooperation with Southeast
>>Asian countries such as
>>Thailand.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> But
>>significant hurdles remain, including concerns
>>that booming> >> >> trade> >> >> >> >>
>>relations may fuel rises in insurgency,
>>narco-terrorism and> >> AIDS,> >> > >
>>all> >> >> >> >> of which plague the northeast.
>>Security in the region is tight,> >>
>>with> >> >> >> >> the army out in force to
>>combat armed groups battling for> > >
>>greater> >> >> >> >> autonomy or independence
>>from India.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> "The
>>official restrictions that prevail in northeast
>>India -- in> >> >> terms> >> >> >> >> of
>>travel, land and labor markets -- are hardly
>>conducive to> >> >> intensive> >> >> >> >>
>>cross-border economic relations," said Baruah,
>>the political> >> science> >> >> >> >>
>>professor.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> "Both the
>>reality of insurgencies in the region and the
>>security> >> >> >> >> anxiety of the government
>>of India . . . are major obstacles
>>to> >> >> >> >> dynamic cross-border economic
>>ties," he added, calling current> >> >>
>>efforts> >> >> >> >> hardly more than "a bare
>>beginning."> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Also,
>>Baruah said, it was difficult to imagine a big
>>increase in> >> >> trade> >> >> >> >> given the
>>political situation in military-led
>>Myanmar.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> India's
>>relations with China, a country it has long
>>regarded> >> with> > > >> >> >> distrust since
>>a 1962 border war, would also have to become
>>much> >> >> more> >> >> >> >> relaxed, Baruah
>>said.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
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