[Assam] ALAXOT SANG POTA

Sun Jun 15 06:25:42 PDT 2008

Hi Manoj
I enjoyed the humour,you read in ' Bishmoi '.
Hemkox obhidhan cites this Assamese idiom as ' Alaxot sang pota ' and
Rotnokox,written by Chanradhar Barua,as ' Akaxot sang pota '. In my
view,both can be used interchangeably,although the former would be more
appropriate.
According to Hemkox,the meaning of ' Alax ' is--sky/air/void as Rajen Barua
pointed out earlier.
Funny thing is--- the English translation of this Assamese maxim would be 1)
to build castles in the air 2) to build castles in Spain.
Kamal

On 6/15/08, Manoj Das <dasmk2k at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think Its Akhaxot sang pota only..Alaxor laru is a different idiom..
>
> There was a humour in 'Bishmoi' which I read long back..
>
> Teacher: Bakya rochona kora- Akhaxot sang pota, nopota phukon. alaxor laru,
> bina meghe bojropat, dante uthe loga
>
> Pupil: Nopota phukon dangoriyai akhaxot sang pati alaxor laru kahi thakute
> bina meghre bojropat hoi dante uthe lagi morile...:)
>
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:15 AM, kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I fully agree.Alaxot sang pota and Akhaxot sang pota :both could perhaps
> be
> > used interchangeably.
> > KJD
> >
> >
> > On 6/14/08, barua25 <barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I thnk Chandan is right.
> > > ALAX also means AIR, VOID, SKY.
> > > Thus 'alaxot sang pota'  will be a correct Assamese expression.
> > > "alaxor laru" means one who is raised in such affection and care as not
> > to
> > > let him/her touch even the earth (mati).
> > > ALAX in both the expression means the same: AIR
> > > Rajen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "kamal deka" <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
> > > To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
> world"
> > <
> > > assam at assamnet.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:34 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Assam] Fw: Letter to the Editor.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Akakhot sang pota,the English equivalent of which will be : To build
> > > castle
> > > > in the air.
> > > >
> > > > Alaxor laru means: something very dear.
> > > >
> > > > I could be in error.
> > > >
> > > > KJD ( INGRAJIR BIXAROD )
> > > >
> > > > On 6/13/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani <absarangapani at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I think Mukul-da is right.
> > > >>
> > > >> It is 'aakaaxot saang pota' (meaning 'xunyot'), not 'aalaaxot'.
> > > >>
> > > >> And you are right, Aalaax is used for 'Alaaxor Laaru', meaning
> > > >> 'oti-moromor' - very precious, apple of the eye, need I go on? :)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree
> > and
> > > >> humble like a blade of grass."
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:34:53 -0500> To: dilipdeka at yahoo.com;
> > > >> cmahanta at charter.net> From: cmahanta at charter.net> CC:
> > > assam at assamnet.org>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Assam] Fw: Letter to the Editor.> > At 7:28 PM -0700
> > > 6/13/08,
> > > >> Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:> >O'Mahanta,> >Same meaning - Imaginary
> > Right?
> > > As
> > > >> in Imaginary Laaru.> > > **** I am guessing here now, but I think
> > > 'alaaxor
> > > >> laaru' does not > mean an imaginary dessert. I believe it means
> > > 'something
> > > >> absurdly > held to be 'aapurugiya', of great value.> > Can our
> > > Oxomiya-major
> > > >> friends tell us exactly what an 'alaaxor laaru is'?> > > >Hey, we
> > didn't
> > > do
> > > >> too badly. Despite all conjectures :-), we do > >remember class X
> > > Assamese.>
> > > >> > *** We may be geezers, but we do remember a thing or two still
> :-).>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >Hey, we didn't do too badly. Despite all
> > > conjectures
> > > >> :-), we do > >remember class X Assamese.> >O'Deka> >> >> >> >-----
> > > Original
> > > >> Message ----> >From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>> >To:
> Dilip
> > > and
> > > >> Dil Deka <dilipdeka at yahoo.com>; Chandan Mahanta > ><
> > > cmahanta at charter.net>>
> > > >> >Cc: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the >
> > > >world
> > > >> <assam at assamnet.org>> >Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:22:43 PM>
> > > >Subject:
> > > >> Re: [Assam] Fw: Letter to the Editor.> >> >O'Deka:> >> >The other
> > common
> > > >> usage of 'alaax' is in 'alaaxor laaru'> >> >O'm> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >>
> > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >At 7:00 PM -0700 6/13/08, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:> >>
> >>O'Mahanta,>
> > > >>>
> > > >> >>You are correct.> >>> >>'Alaaxot Sang Pota' is what I remember
> from
> > > usage.
> > > >> In fact it was a > >>standard question in Assamese literature class
> > > >> (interpretation of > >>'Phokora-zozona') and I remember answering
> that
> > > Alaax
> > > >> must have > >>meant something intangible and imaginary, when a sang
> > > (bridge
> > > >> or > >>shelf) needs some tangible support.> >>> >>O'Deka> >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> >>===================================================================================================>
> > > >> >>> >>> >>> >>----- Original Message ----> >>From: Chan Mahanta <
> > > >> cmahanta at charter.net>> >>To: A Mailing list for people interested
> in
> > > Assam
> > > >> from around the > >>world <assam at assamnet.org>> >>Sent: Friday,
> June
> > > 13,
> > > >> 2008 7:50:29 PM> >>Subject: Re: [Assam] Fw: Letter to the Editor.>
> >>>
> > > >> >>>.You meant akaaxot> >>> >>> >>No, not really. I meant 'alaaxot'.
> > > 'alaaxot
> > > >> ssang-pota' is an> >>authentic Oxomiya phrase :-).> >>> >>> >>> >>>
> > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >> >>> >>> >>At 6:01 AM +0530 6/14/08, mc mahant wrote:>
> >>><'Expectation
> > > is
> > > >> the mother of all disappointments'.( maybe also > >>>Unhappiness)>
> > > >>>And
> > > >> <'alaaxot saang-pota kotha'> ( daydreaming).You meant akaaxot>
> >>>mm>
> > > Date:
> > > >> Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:01:32 -0500> To: > >>><mailto:
> assam at assamnet.org>
> > > >> assam at assamnet.org>> >>>From: <mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>
> > > >> cmahanta at charter.net> Subject: > >>>Re: [Assam] Fw: Letter to the>
> > > >> >>>Editor.> > > I am also curious about the PREMISE of KJD's>
> > > >>>letter:> >
> > > >> > The Asomiya language in the USA has already been put to> >>>sleep
> by
> > >
> > > >> >the Asomiyas themselves> > > *** First off, how can a> >>>language
> > die
> > > in a
> > > >> particular locale, when it > did not even LIVE> >>>there?> > When
> did
> > > the
> > > >> Oxomiya language take root in US shores? It> >>>is a > preposterous
> > > >> proposition. Surely a minuscule number of> >>>immigrants > spread
> out
> > > over a
> > > >> continent three times the land mass> >>>of India, > speaking the
> > > language at
> > > >> home or friends with infrequent> >>>contact > could not possibly
> > > establish a
> > > >> language that could be even> >>>remotely > considered a living one.>
> >
> > >
> > > ***
> > > >> KJD make some good> >>>points, like the amusing spectacle of >
> > > conducting a
> > > >> debate about> >>>the health of Oxomiya language in the USA > in
> > English,
> > > or>
> > > >> >>>conducting an entire Oxomiya bor-xobaah in English. > But then
> > again>
> > > >> >>>it only reaffirms the logistical challenges of > communicating in
> > a>
> > > >> >>>language that has NOT even taken hold. A sizable > segment of
> the>
> > > >> >>>next generation of Oxomiya immigrants would not > understand what
> > is>
> > > >> >>>going on, if conducted entirely in Oxomiya.> > One can therefore>
> > > >>>beat
> > > >> up on the parents who failed to teach their > progeny their>
> > > >>>ancestral
> > > >> language. But that is NOT going to change > anything,> >>>other than
> > > perhaps
> > > >> give some dubious satisfaction of > venting> >>>personal dislikes or
> > > >> assertion of self-righteousness.> > *** But I> >>>would not despair.
> > > There
> > > >> will always be those who are > interested> >>>and have the ability
> to
> > > learn
> > > >> the language of their > forebears. And> >> >they will keep the
> Oxomiya
> > > >> language in the USA, in > formaldehyde> >>>like a specimen in a
> > museum,
> > > >> caught in a time-warp, > speaking a> >>>language that has been long
> > > forsaken
> > > >> by the Oxomiyas > themselves as> >>>they march on the highway of
> > > evolution.
> > > >> It has no > chance of being> >>>anything else. To expect otherwise
> > will
> > > be
> > > >> 'alaaxot > saang-pota> >>>kotha' ( daydreaming).> > > *** Finally,
> > KJD's
> > > >> disappointments in> >>>this matter is a result of > unrealistic
> > > >> expectations. As the sixth> >>>principle of happiness in the > MSBSP
> > > Book of
> > > >> Wisdoms says> >>>'Expectation is the mother of all >
> > disappointments'.>
> > > > >
> > > >> Your> >>>What-Me-Worry Kharkhowa Compatriot,> > cm> > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >> At> >>>12:48 AM -0500 6/13/08, Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:> > Dear
> > KJD>
> > > >>
> > > >> >>>Thanks for the intellectual and timely article on Oxomiya>
> >>>Bhaxa
> > >
> > > >> >(Assamese Language) published in the Sentinel. This is an>
> > >>>important
> > > >
> > > >> >and sensitive subject and you have touched some truths.> >>>However
> I
> > >
> > > >> >find that overall, the article has given a rather one> >>> >>
> >sided
> > > and >
> > > >> >distorted view of the Assamese in America, and people> >>>in Assam
> > > might >
> > > >> >get the impression that we Assamese in America> >>>donot speak
> > Assamese
> > > >
> > > >> >at all. It is basically to correct this> >>>view, that I have
> decided
> > > to >
> > > >> >comment on your article.> >> > First> >>>I am glad that you are
> > > addressing
> > > >> the 'Assamese language> >>>in > >America' and not 'Assamese language
> > in
> > > >> Assam'. These are> >>>two > >separate issues. Writing about the
> > 'demise
> > > of
> > > >> Assamese> >>>language in > >America', you are hitting on the bull's
> > eye
> > > and
> > > >> on a> >>>real problem. > >The same is however not true for the
> > Assamese>
> > > >> >>>language in general as > >many of us like to imagine. The
> Assamese>
> > > >> >>>language in general will > >flow as long as the river luit will>
> > > >> >>>flow.> >> > As you have pointed out like many other languages,
> the>
> > > >> >>>'Assamese > >language in America' will eventually die out. If
> any>
> > > >>>one
> > > >> does the > >numerical analysis, this is inevitable, and frankly>
> > > >>>speaking
> > > >> there > >is no point in being emotional or critical about> >>>it.
> The
> > > Tie
> > > >> Ahoms > >lost their mother tongue in Assam the same way.> >>>The
> issue
> > > of >
> > > >> >inevitability is however not reflected your article.> >>>Rather you
> > are
> > > >
> > > >> >showing as if it is a news for all of us and> >>>especially to the
> >
> > > >> >Assamese people back home.> >> > That being> >>>said, let us not
> > bring
> > > >> death to the 'Assamese language > >in> >>>America' prematurely. The
> > fact
> > > is
> > > >> the Assamese language> >>>in > >America is not dead yet. You wrote
> > > "....most
> > > >> of the> >>>Asomiyas, > >belonging to the in-between generation, if
> not
> > > all,
> > > >> do> >>>not speak > >their mother tongue at all." I am sure most
> > Assamese
> > > in>
> > > >> >>>America > >would not agree with you. In fact, we still have most>
> > > >> >>>Assamese > >converse in Assamese when we meet together in
> Assamese>
> > > >> >>>parties and > >we have many Assamese children who speak fluent>
> > > >> >>>Assamese. Not only > >that, we have writers and poets in the
> > country>
> > > >> >>>who writes in > >Assamese. Thus your statement, "The Asomiya>
> > > >>>language
> > > >> in the USA has > >already been put to sleep by the Asomiyas>
> > > >>>themselves,"
> > > >> is a bit > >exaggeration, highly controversial and> >>>frankly
> > speaking
> > > not
> > > >> true.> >> > Leaving aside the above> >>>exaggeration, let us see the
> > > reasons
> > > >> cited > >by you for the> >>>eventual demise of the Assamese language
> > in
> > > >> America. > >You wrote,> >>>"It is too facile of an argument, often
> > made
> > > by
> > > >> the > >expatriate> >>>Asomiyas, that teaching children their native
> > > language
> > > >> > >interferes> >>>with the English language development." Frankly
> > > speaking,
> > > >> > >I find> >>>this absolutely a wrong assumption. I donot think
> there
> > > are >
> > > >> >any> >>>such unfortunate and ignorant Assamese in America (or>
> > > >> >>>elsewhere) > >who sincerely believe the above outdated theory
> and>
> > > >> >>>that is why they > >donot teach Assamese to their children. The>
> > > >> >>>actual reason why the > >parents donot teach Assamese to their>
> > > >> >>>children is plain and simple. > >We are too laid back, hobo diok
> > and>
> > > >> >>>lazy. At the same time, there > >are many parents, like us, who>
> > > >>>speak
> > > >> to their children in Assamese. > >Now formal teaching of>
> >>>Assamese
> > is
> > > a
> > > >> different matter altogether > >which must have to be a> >>>community
> > > effort.
> > > >> As communities we are > >small everywhere and> >>>where we can,
> > frankly
> > > >> speaking we are lazy and > >take our usual> >> >'hoobo diok'
> attitude.
> > > It is
> > > >> not because we Assamese > >donot have> >>>pride in our culture and
> > > language,
> > > >> as we have said. On > >the other> >>>hand, I think we (the NRI
> > Assamese)
> > > >> have too much pride in > >the> >>>Assamese language and culture.
> That
> > is
> > > why
> > > >> we celebrate> >>>Bihu > >almost everywhere in the globe now a days.
> > That
> > > is
> > > >> why we> >>>meet > >annually in two places at the same fourth of July
> > > every>
> > > >> >>>years in > >America.> >> > Coming to your concluding remark on>
> > > >> >>>teaching Assamese, "One would > >fall off the chair to learn
> that>
> > > >>>the
> > > >> entire affair is conducted in > >English! I am at a loss to>
> > > >>>understand
> > > >> as to how on earth one can > >pass one's culture and> >>>heritage on
> > to
> > > >> their progeny by merely > >holding Bihu function once> >>>in a year
> > > without
> > > >> impressing upon their > >children the importance> >>>of learning
> their
> > > own
> > > >> language which is the > >essence of any> >>>culture." On this I am
> > with
> > > you.
> > > >> I agree that it > >seems a bit> >>>hypocritical for the Assamese in
> > > Houston
> > > >> to debate in > >English> >>> >> >during the Bihu about the 'demise
> of
> > > the
> > > >> Assamese language > >in> >>>Assam'. I think it is not only
> > hypocritical
> > > bu
> > > >> rather wastage> >>>of > >time. I would have rather spent the time
> > > teaching
> > > >> Assamese to> >>>our > >children, which in fact I had suggested
> > strongly.
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> >>>Overall I think your article will play very well in Assam>
> > > >>>where
> > > >> > >people are ready to judge the NRIs on wrong assumptions> >>>like
> we
> > > the >
> > > >> >NRIs like to judge Assam often time on wrong> >>>assumptions. I
> hope
> > we
> > > >
> > > >> >are learning.> >> > Incidentally some of> >>>us are trying to come
> up
> > > with
> > > >> a scheme to > >teach basic Assamese to> >>>the children. Please
> watch
> > > out
> > > >> for some good > >news.> >> > BTW I> >>>will send a verson of this
> > > writing to
> > > >> Sentinel so that > >people in> >>>Assam will not hold to the wrong
> > > >> impression that we donot > >speak> >>>in Assamese at all. etc> >> >
> > > Thanks>
> > > >> > Rajen> >>>Kokaideu> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message
> > ----->
> > > >
> > > >> From:> >>>kamal deka> > To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua> > Sent: Sunday,
> June
> > > 08,>
> > > >> >>>2008 9:04 AM> > Subject: Letter to the> >>>Editor.> > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > >>
> > > >> >> >>>The Demise of Asomiya Language in America> > Half of the
> > world's>
> > > >> >>>6,000 languages, > >as estimated by the United Nations, will go
> > the>
> > > >> >>>way of the dinosaurs > >in less than a century. In fact one
> falls>
> > > >>>out
> > > >> of use about every two > >weeks. Usually, the life of a language>
> > > >>>comes
> > > >> to an end when the > >speakers of the language stop speaking> >>>it
> > for
> > > any
> > > >> reason. The > >Asomiya language in the USA has already> >>>been put
> to
> > > sleep
> > > >> by the > >Asomiyas themselves, which is the> >>>product of parental
> > > failure
> > > >> to > >inculcate a sense of pride in our> >>>ancient culture and
> > > language. >
> > > >> >After all, diet and dialect are> >>>perhaps the emblems of any
> > society.
> > > >
> > > >> >The abdication of the Asomiya> >>>parents makes it easy for the
> > Asomiya
> > > >
> > > >> >children here in America to> >>>follow the path of least resistance
> > by
> > > >
> > > >> >imitating their American> >>>peers. The result : most of the
> > Asomiyas,
> > > >
> > > >> >belonging to the> >>>in-between generation, if not all, do not
> speak
> > >
> > > >> >their mother> >>>tongue at all.> > It is too facile of an argument,
> >
> > > >> >often made by> >>>the expatriate Asomiyas, that teaching children
> > their
> > > >
> > > >> >native> >>>language interferes with the English language
> > development.>
> > > >> >>>It > >would, therefore, be better to focus on English than teach>
> > > >>>a >
> > > >> >language that is going to be of limited use in this country.>
> >>>This
> > >
> > > >> >line of reasoning, in my opinion, does not seem to have two>
> >>>legs
> > to
> > > >
> > > >> >stand for a few simple reasons.> > First, research> >>>consistently
> > > points
> > > >> > >to the cognitive and academic advantages of> >>>being bilingual,
> no
> > >
> > > >> >matter what the second language is. But the> >>>Asomiya parents are
> > not
> > > >
> > > >> >dissuaded by multilingual pre-schoolers> >>>reading earlier and
> > faster
> > > >
> > > >> >than their monolingual counterparts.> >>>The young child's
> > alloplastic
> > > >
> > > >> >mind is fertile ground for a> >>>multitude of ideas. Far from
> > stunting
> > > >
> > > >> >mastery in English,> >>>learning another language enhances a
> child's
> > >
> > > >> >ability to learn> >>>English by expanding linguistic structure and
> >
> > > >> >syntax.> >>>Furthermore, most children passively acquire English>
> > > >> >>>through > >ubiquitous interactions with teachers and fellow> >>
> > > >> >schoolmates at > >school, television and on the street.
> Conversely,>
> > > >> >>>they imbibe their > >native language only at home.> > Secondly,
> > when>
> > > >> >>>Americans themselves > >have begun to realize that this land is
> > not>
> > > >>>a
> > > >> melting pot but rather > >a rich mosaic, it is ironic that many of>
> > > >>>us
> > > >> still cling to the > >archaic philosophy of Romans in Rome.>
> > > >>>Thankfully,
> > > >> the Asomiyas here > >in America do not live in such a> >>>rigid
> world
> > > where
> > > >> they have to > >choose between extremes.> >> >>>Thirdly, there is
> > > another
> > > >> powerful > >benefit that is relevant to> >>>our children growing up
> > here
> > > and
> > > >> that is > >in helping them a strong> >>>sense of identity which can
> > help
> > > >> lead to > >better self-esteem and> >>>self-confidence.> > The
> Asomiya
> > > >> diaspora of the USA > >insists and> >>>claims that the foremost
> reason
> > > of
> > > >> celebrating Bihu is > >to> >>>transmit - and preserve - our culture
> to
> > > the
> > > >> next generation.> >>>One > >would fall off the chair to learn that
> the
> > > >> entire affair> >>>is > >conducted in English! I am at a loss to
> > > understand
> > > >> as to how> >>> >> >on > >earth one can pass one's culture and
> heritage
> > > on to
> > > >> their> >>>progeny by > >merely holding Bihu function once in a year
> > > without>
> > > >> >>>impressing upon > >their children the importance of learning
> their>
> > > >> >>>own language which > >is the essence of any culture.> > Kamaljit>
> > > >> >>>Deka,> > Sugarland, Texas.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>
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