[Assam] Fwd: [www.stockmarketindia.net] Re: LIFELINE HOSPITAL -Just for Money
deb raj
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Mon Sep 1 10:57:52 PDT 2008
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From: deb raj <debraj1969 at gmail.com>
Date: Sep 1, 2008 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [www.stockmarketindia.net] Re: LIFELINE HOSPITAL -Just for
Money
To: stockmarketindia24 at googlegroups.com
It was extremely painfull to read what heppened with PN Raja! May God give
him courage to go ahead in life.
India is full of these Doctors-turned-monsters ! Action must be taken, but
who will take action ??? to whom to go for action ???? Every body , in the
Indian health care system gets their share from these ill- gotten money.
However they must take them to court, although Indian courts will take
anything from 1 year to 50 years to decide & give justice. " God save this
country" was the observation of the Supreme court judge few days back.
Dev.
Jeddah- Saudi Arabia
On 9/1/08, A. H. Shaikh <saharadirect at gmail.com> wrote:
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> You should seriously consider taking them to the court, and try and get
> their license cancelled by intimating to the authorities with all the
> proofs.
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> A. H. Shaikh
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> *From:* stockmarketindia24 at googlegroups.com [mailto:
> stockmarketindia24 at googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *N P Raja
> *Sent:* 01/09/2008 6:50 PM
> *To:* unexpectedreturn at yahoo.com; Mr.Gopal sha; m_somu123 at hotmail.com;
> Pinky Panels; a.rajendran.2005 at gmail.com; khemka1 at vsnl.com;
> raibatbasu at gmail.com; smt1965 at gmail.com; suzuki_babu at yahoo.com;
> stockmarketindia24 at googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [www.stockmarketindia.net] LIFELINE HOSPITAL -Just for Money
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> LIFE AFTER DEATH – Just for Money
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> This is not a philosophical statement on one's life after death, this is
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> about how my wife, Padma died in a hospital in Chennai. Whatever I have
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> seen only in movies so far, is experienced by me.
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> We were living in the UK for few years; our family includes me, my wife
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> (Padma), and our 7 yr old son and 8months old daughter. My wife had a
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> symptom of ventral hernia (slightly bulged abdomen), we had consulted
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> General Physician and Surgeon in the UK and advice was that she needed a
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> surgery to have a mesh to fix the problem with a few weeks rest. We were
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> also told that this is not an emergency and it can be done anytime though
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> earlier is good. In fact the surgeon whom we consulted in UK talked about
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> an example of a lady having this done for 30 years of the symptom. My
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> wife did not have any specific pain or something except a small discomfort
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> of bulgy abdomen (like a 2 months pregnant lady) and she was in her normal
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> routine of taking care of our children, taking our son to school, household
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> work, etc.
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> We were planning for Christmas vacation in India in Dec 2007, we thought
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> we will consult some 'good' doctors over in India and take a decision
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> of when we will do the surgery if required and possibly felt doing in India is
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> good because of family support. We have got a reference of Dr J S
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> Rajkumar of Lifeline hospital and we booked an appointment to meet him.
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> We landed in Chennai on 14th Dec 2007 for a three weeks vacation, met Dr
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> Rajkumar at his city hospital (Rigid hospital) in Chetput on 15th Dec 2007
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> (Sat) at about 730pm. We have explained him the background, shown him all
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> the comments of UK surgeon, medical reports related to my wife pregnancy,
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> deliveries, etc (she had delivered both our children normally). After
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> few minutes of assessment Dr Rajkumar told us this hernia requires
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> laparoscopic surgery and we can do this next day itself. We were little
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> concerned initially of getting this surgery done the very next day
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> (particularly we were still not out of jet lag and she was feeding our
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> baby) and got convinced with the 'salesy' words given by the Doctors.
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> To quote a comment from the Doctor "she will run in two days time and can
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> lift two suitcases and you can return to UK as per your plan on 3rd Jan
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> 2008").
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> Also Dr Rajkumar told us that he will be on travel for 3 days from 17th Dec
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> and moreover he was teaching Post Graduates on 16th Dec about laparoscopic
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> surgery and let us get it done on 16th Dec.
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> Then my wife was put into all sorts of equipments in the hospital (in the
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> name of assessment); blood, urine, ECG, MRI and so on and the tests were
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> conducted till about 11pm on 15th Dec. In fact they have opened the labs
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> after closing hours and got the test done and handed over the test results
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> to us. They had some problem in the ECG and we were told that ECG can
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> be done on the next day at Lifeline hospital.
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> We were asked to report to Rigid hospital at 5am in the morning. Think of
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> it, we went our residence around midnight and my wife had rush on some food
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> to keep compliance on the fasting 8 hrs prior to surgery. After
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> preparing for the hospital visit that night and a couple of hours sleep (3
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> hrs or so) we reached Rigid hospital on 16th morning at 5am or so and from
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> there we were transported by an 'ambulance' to Lifelife hospital in
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> Perungudi (outskirts of Chennai).
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> We reached the hospital at 630am, paid some initial advance for the surgery
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> and we were given a room. Padma went through some more basic checks like
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> height, weight, etc. Padma was taken to the operation theatre at about
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> 10am in the morning on 16th Dec. After the laparoscopic procedure
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> She was moved to post operative ward at about 12 noon and I have met her in the
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> afternoon to say a small hello when she gained consciousness. Dr
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> Rajkumar met us on 16th Dec afternoon and he in fact congratulated me for
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> successful surgery and said he has used proceed mesh (costly one) and
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> advised his staff to move Padma to normal ward in the evening as she had to
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> feed her baby. But, Padma was moved to normal ward only on 17th Dec
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> morning, she was on IV fluids as per normal post operative procedure.
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> Padma started to develop some fluids in her abdomen which duty doctors /
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> surgeons have 'rightly' observed. She was put in some series of
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> tests on 17th, 18th, 19th and 20th – tests include multiple ultra sound, multiple CT
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> scans, pricked her abdomen and taken fluids, she had a long tube through
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> her nose overnight to collect fluid for tests, etc. We were told the
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> fluid is normal after surgery and it will be alright after she passes
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> stool, etc.
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> In the meanwhile Dr Rajkumar returned from his travel and seen Padma on
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> 19th on 20th Dec evening along with other surgeons. He made an assessment
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> and he told me that he might want to do one more laparoscopic surgery to
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> find out what is the fluid about. He wanted to do a surgery on 20th Dec
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> evening itself, but he could not proceed as the hospital has given solid
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> food that afternoon – hence anaesthesia could not be given. (lack of
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> co-ordination among departments, time lost here, may be she could have
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> survived if they have did the surgery on 20th itself)
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> On 20th Dec night, fluid started oozing from Padma's abdomen stitches,
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> after the duty Doctor's assessment she was shifted to ICU. We really
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> did not know what complication she developed in the ICU.
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> On 21st Dec (Friday) morning around 830am I was called in to the ICU to
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> convey that they are going to perform a surgery and I had to sign "high
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> risk consent", they were telling this in front of my wife (just think of
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> a patient hearing this before the surgery). I was just shocked at that and
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> had no options to sign whatever they wanted. I said "all the best"
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> (my last conversation with my wife) to my wife and she was taken to Operation
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> Theatre.
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> While I was discussing with the Doctors at ICU, the cashier in the hospital
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> kept on calling me on my mobile. When I met the cashier he asked for
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> Rs.60,000 to be paid immediately and I told him take Rs.40,000 and will
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> give you the balance later in the day. Bang a reply came, "you have to
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> pay the money to for me to give clearance for surgery". When I
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> expressed my unhappiness about the comment, he insisted for me to sign a piece of
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> paper saying that I will give the money later in the day. (What money
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> minded, in-human attitude!)
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> We had no news from the hospital on their own about the surgery, I had
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> enquired the staff nurse and visited my wife in the ICU and learnt that she
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> had a diagnostic laparotomy (open surgery) and there was hole in the
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> intestine which was fixed.
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> We have meet Dr Rajkumar at about 3:30pm on 21st Dec and understood that
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> there was a duodenum rupture and he has fixed it, at the same time he
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> removed the mesh which was fixed on 16th Dec. She was also paralysed and
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> put on ventilator as she was waking up. He explained it was between life
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> threatening and beauty so they addressed the duodenum rupture problem.
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> What we were puzzled were, how did the rupture happen? for that explanation
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> given were it could be due to ulcer. My wife had no evidence of ulcer in
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> the past. Explanation given was 40%+ cases of ulcer is silent and there
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> will be no symptom (I lack medical knowledge to appreciate this)
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> - it could be due to post operative stress (so many test post
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> operation without any explanation of what we were doing could have created
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> the stress on Padma is my argument)
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> On the same night (21st Dec) at about 930pm, I was called in to the ICU and
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> Doctors conveyed that my wife condition is critical – her pulse is high, BP
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> is low and they were attending to her. I insisted on talking to Dr
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> Rajkumar immdly, but they refused to connect me to him at first and finally
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> managed to speak to him. Dr Rajkumar came in around midnight and
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> explained that the lungs are getting affected (shown X-ray of white patches
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> on the lower portion of lungs) and she was the most serious patient in the
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> whole hospital that time and they were trying their best. He also said,
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> it will need another 12-24 hours of observation before they can say
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> anything.
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> We were completely panicked and just waiting outside the ICU and praying
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> for Padma's recovery. We had to argue with the security outside the ICU
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> to gain access to the Doctors to know her situation (no courtesy from the
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> security personnel, who just don't understand the situation)
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> At about 4:30am in the morning, my friend gained access the Doctors in the
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> ICU and came out with the low face to tell me that Padma's condition is
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> worsened. Again I tried to reach Dr Rajkumar and the hospital says they
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> don't have his contact number (just can't understand how they can
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> behave like this). Finally after some hue and cry Dr Rajkumar came on line to
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> tell me that he is not God and don't think his visit can do any thing
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> different. I cried, begged him to come over to give some ideas to his
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> team to recover Padma. He came over at around 6am and said they are
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> trying everything possible, etc; but her end came quickly.
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> The end came to our beloved Padma at 6:30am on 22nd Dec, throwing the
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> entire family to rude shock and a life time sorrow. Our "LIVES AFTER
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> DEATH" of Padma has changed for ever.
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> I can now think of so many questions retrospectively;
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> 1. Why did the surgeon perform the surgery the very next day of
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> consultancy, that too for a non-emergency one like this? (Padma had just
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> travelled many miles, she was not even out of jet lag.) Was it for money?
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> Was it for them to get one more sample for their post grads training?
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> 2. Did the Doctors made proper assessment on Padma's fitness for
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> surgery, frankly did they even had time to go through the reports, after
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> the tests till 11pm on the previous night for next day 8am surgery
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> surgery).
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> 3. Patient communication and counselling. Isn't it important to
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> communicate to patient and their relatives on the development of patient
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> condition (fluid
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> collection started from the next day of laparoscopic)
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> 4. Did the absence of Dr Rajkumar for three days post the first
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> surgery is one of the reason for this disaster? Were the other Doctors not
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> able to diagnose or take a decision? Were they waiting for Dr Rajkumar
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> return?
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> 5. What is the real reason for duodenum perforation? My wife never
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> had any history of ulcer to the best of my knowledge. Why did the hospital
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> take so much of time to react (5 days after surgery) when such a crucial
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> thing like perforation has happened.
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> 6. Was there any issue in the initial laparoscopic procedure which
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> has caused the perforation?
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> 7. Careless attitude by hospital staff? – my wife sex was recorded
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> as "Male" initially and corrected after I told them. The staff was
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> not even apologetic for this, he rather asked me "why didn't you
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> inform". Can't he make out with the name Padma. Think of it, if he has changed
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> the blood group from A+ to B+; that is it!!
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> 8. Will anyone with basic common sense ask for high risk signature
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> in front of the patient? I was asked to sign just minutes before surgery
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> in front of my wife.
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> 9. Is the hospital money minded?: They were demanding money on gun
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> point almost.
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> a. Prior to the first surgery the cashier said please give
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> Rs.30000/- more for him to give clearance for surgery
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> b. When my wife going for second surgery I was told by the cashier
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> again, please give Rs.60000/- for clearance for surgery
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> c. The hospital charged more than what was told for initial
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> laparoscopic, without even communicating to me increase in charges
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> d. The final "bill" was just on letter head, without mention
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> currency, invoice number, etc. I had to insist on a proper invoice later.
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> e. I was given to understand that
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> they even made arguments on
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> ambulance charges to send my wife dead body back home.!! (making money on
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> the dead body also)
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> 10. Why the hospital did not made me to talk to my wife when she
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> gained consciousness after the second surgery? If not anything else, I
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> could have held her hand. Even a criminal gets an opportunity to
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> communicate his/her last wishes. Am I or my wife worse than?
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> 11. FALSE reports - After all these hospital sends me false reports
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> (on Jan 11, 2008 – three weeks after my wife's death) :
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> a. They had mentioned she had LSCS (caesarean section) and large
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> scar due to LSCS. When my wife delivered both the babies normally, how
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> does one record as caesarean and how there will be scar when there was no
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> caesarean?
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> b. The hernia was mentioned "incisional hernia" – when there
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> incision on her body how the hernia is categorised as incisional? It
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> actually ventral hernia. Don't think one can replace any term with any
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> term just like that!
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> c. Most importantly, the surgery was performed on 16th Dec 2007, the
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> report said 17th dec 2007
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> 12. MISSING REPORTS - From the hospital records Doctors notes were
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> missing for 16th and 17th Dec. The first report is available for 17th Dec
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> at 8:36pm. How come there are no Doctors' notes for about 36 hours after
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> the surgery? Isn't it fishy? Did something went wrong on the first
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> laparoscopic procedure?
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> Our entire family is still mourning and trying to reconcile the fact that
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> our Padma is no more. My 7 year old son is aware that is Mom is not
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> there, does he understand? My 1 year old daughter is too young to know
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> what has happened. What will her questions be in future?
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> My sincere advice to all is
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> a) Do not get carried away by advertisement / TV shows /
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> b) Please do not rush
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> c) Do your own due diligence, particularly when things are not an
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> d) Try and understand the medical terms, do research prior
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> e) Please ask questions, at every stage.
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> f) Don't say "I can spend anything"
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> g) Know patient rights
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> I am still not convinced that Padma has died after a 'simple'
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> laparoscopic
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> surgery? I am deeply upset of what has happened to Padma and for what is
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> happening to us. What I could have done (or not done) which would have
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> prevented this. What is that we can do to prevent this in future for
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> others!!!
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> Please join me in making awareness to others. While India is trying to
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> woo many international Customers in the name of 'medical tourism';
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> first let the authorities make regulation on the health care system and take care
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> of Indian people first.
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> Read others experience as well
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> http://birjupatel.blogspot.com/2007/10/unethical-practice-by-lifeline-hospital.html
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> http://www.hindu.com/2007/12/26/stories/2007122658760300.htm
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> http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VE9JQ0gvMjAwOC8wNy8xMCNBcjAwNTAx&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
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> Our medical system must understand the differences between MEDICINE –TREATMENT and HEALTHCARE. What we get most of the time is medicine for
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> the symptom while we need healthcare.
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> From a big loser in life
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> (agdurai at hotmail.com<mailto:agdurai at hotmail.com>)
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