[Assam] "Non-Veg"
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at charter.net
Wed Feb 4 07:48:25 PST 2009
At 9:05 PM +0530 2/4/09, uttam borthakur wrote:
>Chandan Da: I notice with amusement that you could not help
>going for the jibe. This makes the chit-chat juicy.. in my opinion.
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>Uttam Kumar Borthakur
*** I try to be pro-active on these matters of communication by
taking preemptive action, having learnt from experiences over the
years of our friends' proclivities about attempting to spin :-).
If that adds spice to the discourse, why not ?
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>From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
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>Good explanation Uttam. Prof. Goswami is a wise man and a true scholar.
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>BTW, back in Upper-Assam, we all grew up saying 'muror-xitaan' and
>'bhorir pothaan'. In fact these were further degenerated to forms
>such as 'bhori-pithaan'. WE had no idea what the etymology of the
>words/phrases were. However they were well understood by everyone
>ands thus effective as means of communication.
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>It wouldn't be so, if we arbitrarily change the meaning of a word or
>a phrase to suit a particular need, as in "Indian secularism".
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>At 8:22 PM +0530 2/4/09, uttam borthakur wrote:
>> JS:
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>> This is an interesting question.
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>> Vegetarian used as a noun should mean one who does not take any
>>food other than vegetables or derived out of vegetables. I do not
>>know whether 'rice' is a vegetable or not. This definition would
>>rule out dairy products as well.
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>> I think vegetarian used as a noun would exclude those people, who
>>eat flesh or egg. As an adjective, as in vegetarian food, it would
>>qualify those food that are not flesh or egg.
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>> So you see, the term would convey a meaning in general (in popular
>>parlance) and the de-construction part may be that of the person
>>who takes cognisance.
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>> I found that on-line Merriam Webster dictionary has an entry for
>>this word under the prefix NON. Also, there are numerous sites
>>referring to the term non-vegetarian. So, it is in use; and
>>whether or not used in a particular community it is a part of the
>>vocabulary of a considerable size of English speaking and English
>>reading population of the world.
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>> I do not know whether you are acquainted with the name of
>>Professor Golok Chandra Goswami. He's an expert of the Oxomiya
>>language. Now there was a controversy between us friends as to
>>whether there can be terms like "BHORIR POTHAN" and "MUROR XITHAN".
>>Because, PADA + STHAN( legs + place) are fused (xomaxbaddha roop)
>>into POTHAN. So, some people suggested that use of the word BHORIR
>>before POTHAN would be an absurdity! When the debate raged, I had
>>chanced upon this illustrious professor and placed the question for
>>his arbitration, because, such terms were used by Late Mitra Dev
>>Mahanta in "Mou-Mahabharat" at PRASTUTI PARBA.
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>> The good professor with great patience explained to me that there
>>are certain thing in a language called STREAM-ROLLER of ANALOGY.
>>So, both BHORIR POTHAN and MUROR XITHAN are correct though they are
>>apparent inexactitude.He said that it needs broader mindset to
>>enrich language and culture!
>> Uttam Kumar Borthakur
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>> From: Jyotirmoy Sharma <jyotirmoy.sharma at gmail.com>
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>> Sent: Wednesday, 4 February, 2009 7:05:44 PM
>> Subject: [Assam] "Non-Veg"
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>> Sorry ..not an adult joke :-)
>> Does anyone know if the word "non-veg" is used anywhere outside India ?
>> I think it is actually a wrong use of the English language to describe
>> people who eat both vegetarian and meat products. I am not aware of any word
>> that describes people who fall in this category. I only hear the word from
>> Indians and Indian restaurants.
>> Just curious.
>> JS
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