[Assam] ECSTACY
amlan saha
a.saha at alumni.tufts.edu
Wed Feb 25 07:13:25 PST 2009
Agreed! Also, I do not know much about the wider Indian-American community
but from the little bit I do know about the politically active
Indian-American groups, it appears to me that a staunch anti-choice and
pro-intelligent design Jindal is unlikely to pick up much traction come
campaign time.
A.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
> At 11:52 PM -0600 2/24/09, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
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>> Bobby Jindal is normally a pretty good speaker - but look at what he was
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> *** I thought so too. He does present himself well and usually speaks
> convincingly on the subject. But my exposure to Jindal is very cursory.
> Never saw a full speech or a discussion on the TV circuits where he was a
> major participant.
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> So, I was horrified by his performance last night!
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> I realize that no matter who or how good a speaker or intellect one is, to
> compete with the like of a President Obama last night, is, at the very
> least, a tremendously challenging task, as far as the SHOW part of the task
> is involved.
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> But what about the SUBSTANCE part? Could Jindal have not been expected to
> do MUCH better than how he did on the substance of the Republican rebuttal ?
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> There was a lot of hype from the Republicans on how Jindal wrote his own
> speech ( Obama like) and how it was vetted by the leadership luminaries like
> Michael Steele ( heh :-)), Mitch McConnell ( new blood :-)) and who helped
> him fine tune it ( that ought to have been a giveaway). What Jindal
> delivered, was almost sophomoric. I could not believe how much of it was a
> poor repeat of what Obama spoke about minutes earlier. Then there was this
> incredulous example of his policeman friend's story about governmental
> ineptitude and bureaucratic bungling, compounded by the Bush admin's.
> horrific failures in the Katrina response to support the old and tired
> conservative arguments against GOVERNMENT ! Who was he thinking he was
> speaking to? Where was all that intellectual acuity of the Rhodes Scholar?
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> Either his speech was thoroughly stymied and diluted by the veteran vetters
> or he/they just did not really have any ideas beyond repeating the same
> old tired mantras of tax-cuts and tirades against big-government. And if
> the substance was that weak, they needed at least a stellar orator to
> deliver it.
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> I have to give him high marks, however, on not thoroughly discrediting
> himself like the Rush Limbaughs of the right by sounding to be the strident
> obstructionists and acknowledging why the Republicans have lost the
> confidence of the people.
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> We realize that style alone ought not to be the measure to judge a speaker
> by. Jindal was handicapped on style and personal charisma. But he could
> have and should have been able to make a difference on substance.
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> I was watching MSNBC. And guess what? As Jindal was walking in, someone
> exclaimed with the mikes on, Oh God! That was very bad on CNBCs part. But
> being a visual event, one could not ignore the fact of his processional
> being that of an awkward, nerdy, high-school kid's. That was sad. And to
> add insult to injury, the Republican audio-visual team really blew it, when
> they filmed him in dim light, against a darkened, haunted-house like
> background of the Governor's Mansion, where his dark complexion almost
> disappeared into the background. The final straw was that artificial grin
> at the end of his spiel, that made him appear like a cartoon character.
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> No wonder then, those who were hoping to see Jindal as the Republican
> Obama, were in for some shock. And for the desis looking for one of their
> own in the White House, I guess we will have to wait a little longer. I
> can't wait to see what the desi-decoder will have to say in The Daily Show
> with John Stewart in Comedy Central :-).
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> *** I agree that Republicans ought to go ahead and accept Sarah Palin as
> their leader. That will be good for the country and would serve them right
> :-).
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>> A charismatic President, who is probably one of the best orators
>> (Presidents) the US has had for a long time. Add to that that the
>> Republicans have been branded as the party of 'NO', and are in the wrong
>> side of history.
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>> And then he made a statement that LA did not get Fed funds - and it was
>> all
>> private & state funds after Katrina. The fact though is that LA did get
>> something like 181 Bill $ Fed funds for Katrina.
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>> His speech was more like 'he also spoke' and not much more.
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>> What Ed Rollins ought to have said was if Palin runs, then it is actually
>> excellent for another Dem term. For the Reps. their best (long) shot is
>> someone like Jindal, and not a loon like Palin. GW, Chenney, and their
>> dream
>> team have done the GOP in at least for another 8 years.
>>
>> --Ram
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>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>> wrote:
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>> What did you all think of the Republican response delivered by Bobby
>>> Jindal?
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>>> Republican political consultant Ed Rollins' tongue-in-cheek comment that
>>> it
>>> was a good night for Sarah Palin was telling :-).
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>>> At 9:33 PM -0600 2/24/09, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
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>>> Mukul da,
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>>>> I agree, it was a fantastic speech. I am surprised that the speech was
>>>> broadcast in India too. I mean, they pay to a address of the President
>>>> to
>>>> the jt. session of the Congress.
>>>> On a side note, GW Bush is slated to start speaking for a fee, March
>>>> 17th
>>>> (to a select group of people). I wonder, how much anyone is willing to
>>>> pay,
>>>> to listen to someone who is unable to put together a complete, coherent
>>>> sentence.
>>>>
>>>> --Ram
>>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 8:56 PM, mc mahant <mikemahant at hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> If USA had general Election tomorrow -Who would get 99% votes?
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish I could speak like he did -and the dream-better than Jack
>>>>> Kennedy's!
>>>>>
>>>>> mm
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