[Assam] ECSTACY

Chan Mahanta cmahanta at charter.net
Wed Feb 25 08:30:15 PST 2009


At 8:03 AM -0800 2/25/09, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>The Republicans can make a come back (Jindal or no Jindal) only if 
>Obama administration fails in its effort to salvage the economy.




>  As seen so far, the Republicans will make every attempt to derail 
>the Obama train and will point out every mistake the administration 
>makes.


**** Nothing wrong with that. That IS the role of the opposition. But 
right now they are reduced to playing OBSTRUCTIONISTs.

I did not expect someone like Jindal to fit so snugly into that mold. 
He tried to break from it, but very feebly.




>Right now, everyone's focus is on domestic issues, mainly the economy.


**** Of course. Not that the world around does not matter. Iraq, 
Afghanistan, Palestine/Israel, Kashmir/Pakistan/India  cannot be 
ignored either.


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>Please note: I voted for Obama as a man, not on party lines, and I 
>want him to succeed. Let's see how it goes in the next six months.
>Dilip Deka


**** It is important for us as thoughtful people to deliberate on 
issues to weigh what is more important for the common good than be 
driven by party loyalty or ideologies or ethnic/religious identities.









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>At 10:13 AM -0500 2/25/09, amlan saha wrote:
>>Agreed!  Also, I do not know much about the wider Indian-American community
>>but from the little bit I do know about the politically active
>>Indian-American groups, it appears to me that a staunch anti-choice and
>>pro-intelligent design Jindal is unlikely to pick up much traction come
>>campaign time.
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>And add to that the patently cruel and typically anti-poor , southern
>approach to not allowing unemployment benefits to part time workers
>or not extending it to those whose benefits have already run out  by
>refusing to accept federal monies . This shows that he is more
>interested in appealing to the strident Republican base in the
>pursuit of political ambitions at the cost of those who are already
>hurting
>bad by the economic downturn.
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>That will cost him dearly!
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>>On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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>>>   At 11:52 PM -0600 2/24/09, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
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>>>>   Bobby Jindal is normally a pretty good speaker - but look at what he was
>>>>   up
>>>>   against:
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>>>   *** I thought so too. He does present himself well and usually speaks
>>>   convincingly on the subject.. But my exposure to  Jindal is very cursory.
>>>   Never saw a full speech or a discussion on the TV circuits where he was a
>>>   major participant.
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>>>   So, I was horrified by his performance last night!
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>>>   I realize that no matter who or how good a speaker or intellect one is, to
>>>   compete with the like of a President Obama last night, is, at the very
>>>   least, a tremendously challenging task, as far as the SHOW part 
>>>of the task
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>>>   But what about the SUBSTANCE part? Could Jindal have not been expected to
>>>   do MUCH better than how he did on the substance of the 
>>>Republican rebuttal ?
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>>>   There was a lot of hype from the Republicans on how Jindal wrote his own
>>>   speech ( Obama like) and how it was vetted by the leadership 
>>>luminaries like
>>>   Michael Steele ( heh :-)), Mitch McConnell ( new blood :-)) and who helped
>>>   him fine tune it ( that ought to have been a giveaway).  What Jindal
>>>   delivered, was almost sophomoric.  I could not believe how much 
>>>of it was a
>>>   poor repeat of what Obama spoke about minutes earlier. Then there was this
>>>   incredulous example of his policeman friend's  story about governmental
>>>   ineptitude and bureaucratic bungling, compounded by the Bush admin's.
>>>   horrific failures in the Katrina response to support the old and tired
>  >>  conservative arguments against GOVERNMENT ! Who was he thinking he was
>>>   speaking to? Where was all that intellectual acuity of the Rhodes Scholar?
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>>>   Either his speech was thoroughly stymied and diluted by the 
>>>veteran vetters
>>>   or he/they  just did not really have any ideas  beyond repeating the same
>>>   old tired  mantras of tax-cuts and tirades against big-government. And if
>>>   the substance was that weak, they needed at least a stellar orator to
>>>   deliver it.
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>>>   I have to give him high marks, however, on not thoroughly discrediting
>>>   himself like the Rush Limbaughs of the right by sounding to be 
>>>the strident
>>>   obstructionists and acknowledging why the Republicans have lost the
>>>   confidence of the people.
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>>>   We realize that style alone ought not to be the measure to judge a speaker
>>   > by.  Jindal was handicapped on style and personal charisma. But he could
>>>   have and should have been able to make a difference on substance.
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>>>   I was watching MSNBC. And guess what?  As Jindal was walking in, someone
>>>   exclaimed with the mikes on, Oh God!  That was very bad on CNBCs part. But
>>>   being a visual event, one could not ignore the fact of his processional
>>>   being that of an awkward,  nerdy, high-school kid's. That was sad. And to
>>>   add insult to injury, the Republican audio-visual  team really 
>>>blew it, when
>>>   they filmed him in dim light, against a darkened, haunted-house like
>>>   background of the Governor's Mansion, where his dark complexion almost
>>   > disappeared into the background.  The final straw was  that 
>>artificial grin
>>>   at the end of his spiel, that made him appear like a cartoon character.
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>>>   No wonder then, those who were hoping to see Jindal as the Republican
>>>   Obama, were in for some shock. And for the desis looking for one of their
>>>   own in the White House, I guess we will have to wait a little longer. I
>>>   can't wait to see what  the desi-decoder will have to say in The 
>>>Daily Show
>>>   with John Stewart  in Comedy Central :-).
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>>>   *** I agree that Republicans ought to go ahead and accept Sarah Palin as
>>>   their leader. That will be good for the country and would serve them right
>>>   :-).
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>>>>   A charismatic President, who is probably one of the best orators
>>>>   (Presidents) the US has had for a long time. Add to that that the
>>>>   Republicans have been branded as the party of 'NO', and are in the wrong
>>>>   side of history.
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>>>>   And then he made a statement that LA did not get Fed funds - and it was
>>>>   all
>>>>   private & state funds after Katrina. The fact though is that LA did get
>>>>   something like 181 Bill $ Fed funds for Katrina.
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>>>>   His speech was more like 'he also spoke' and not much more.
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>>>>   What Ed Rollins ought to have said was if Palin runs, then it is actually
>>>>   excellent for another Dem  term. For the Reps. their best (long) shot is
>>>>   someone like Jindal, and not a loon like Palin. GW, Chenney, and their
>>>>   dream
>>>>   team have done the GOP in at least for another 8 years.
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>>>>   --Ram
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>>>>   On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>>   wrote:
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>>>>     What did you all think of the Republican response delivered by Bobby
>  >>>>  Jindal?
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>>>>>   Republican political consultant Ed Rollins' tongue-in-cheek comment that
>>>>>   it
>>>>>   was a good night for Sarah Palin was telling :-).
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>>>>>   At 9:33 PM -0600 2/24/09, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
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>>>>>     Mukul da,
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>>>>>>   I agree, it was a fantastic speech. I am surprised that the speech was
>>>>>>   broadcast in India too. I mean, they pay to a address of the President
>>>>>>   to
>>>>>>   the jt. session of the Congress.
>>>>>>   On a side note, GW Bush is slated to start speaking for a fee, March
>>>>>>   17th
>>>>>>   (to a select group of people). I wonder, how much anyone is willing to
>>>>>>   pay,
>>>>>>   to listen to someone who is unable to put together a complete, coherent
>>>>>>   sentence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   --Ram
>>>>>>   On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 8:56 PM, mc mahant <mikemahant at hotmail.com>
>  >>>>>  wrote:
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>>>>>>     If  USA had general Election tomorrow -Who would get 99% votes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   I wish I could speak like he did -and the dream-better than Jack
>>>>>>>   Kennedy's!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   mm
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