[Assam] About the Name Assam
Manoj Das
dasmk2k at gmail.com
Sun Mar 15 07:21:52 PDT 2009
Or mabbe , ashame, :)
On 3/15/09, kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com> wrote:
> I f the etymology of Assam " is mired in controversy",then why must we
> accept Assam ( mark you,not Asam/Acam/Asham )as the original name of our
> state?By the way,hypothesis is one thing while ' undeniable fact '
> quite another.
> At no point of my writing did I suggest that the name Assam should not be
> accepted as the name of our state.That is not the moot point.
> If the " word Assam has not found incontrovertible origin",in what sense
> would it be wrong to say that the very name called Assam could be an
> Anglicised one?
> The bottom line is--every " discovery" must be subjected to scrutiny before
> it can be taken as an established fact.
> KJ Deka
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, uttam borthakur <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in
>> wrote:
>
>> >>>>>>The statement like " I think" can't be accepted as an unwavering
>> truth.The
>> reference must be intact.
>>
>> ####### 'I think' was to suggest that I do not have the copy of the
>> newspaper that published Professor Jogen Phukan's photograph addressing a
>> huge rally of some sort on this isuue, nor do I have access to the TV
>> footage reporting it. My memory of the news items therefore may not be
>> unwavering truth, but it can possibly be retrieved by resouceful persons.
>>
>> As the question of 'real historian' was tossed up, I thought I may make an
>> addition to the bibliography provided by Sri Rajen Barua and W. Saleh. But
>> I
>> should not have dared where angels fear to tread.
>>
>> You are correct that the word 'Assam' has not found an incontrovertible
>> origin. So have many things in life. Like the origin of the human beings
>> and/or life itself. But we do not teach or push it down some one's throat
>> that Adam and Eve started the whole process, though there are many takers
>> for such an idea. We all work on working hypothesis and probability as
>> adults.
>>
>> Here, the origin of the word 'Assam' is still mired in controversy. Then
>> there should not be any reason to say for sure that it is anglicised
>> version
>> of Oxom or some other such words nor there should be any inchoate attempts
>> to rename the state Asom, as some quarters are trying to do.
>>
>> Pending a final resolution, if any, let us accept ASSAM as a name by which
>> our land is known to the world, and OXOM is what we ourselves call our
>> land
>> as.
>>
>> Uttam Kumar Borthakur
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <
>> assam at assamnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, 15 March, 2009 6:26:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>>
>> The statement like " I think" can't be accepted as an unwavering truth.The
>> reference must be intact.Simply put,there is no consensus among
>> academicians/historians in so far as this issue is concerned.
>> KJDeka
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:16 PM, uttam borthakur <
>> uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > I think a 'real historian' Dr. Jogen Phukan almost led an mass action
>> > against the change of name to Asom for same or similar reasons.
>> >
>> > Uttam Kumar Borthakur
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Rajen & Ajanta Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com>
>> > To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
>> > <
>> > assam at assamnet.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, 14 March, 2009 7:45:49 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I will continue to believe that the name Assam was Anglicised until
>> proven
>> > otherwise--- beyond the shadow of a doubt,of course, by real
>> historians,who
>> > spent decades studying Assam's history and not by neophyte historians
>> >
>> > Dear Kamal Bhaity:
>> > Thanks for your opinion on my article and stating your 'belief'.
>> > My article was written not to change yours or anybody's 'belief', but to
>> > let people see the facts and to think rationally analysing the available
>> > facts of history. If one does that, one will normally come to the
>> > obvious
>> > conclusion that Assam is not a anglicized word. In your writing also you
>> > have indicated that. However your problem in still sticking to your old
>> > belief that Assam is an anglicized word seems to be two:
>> > 1) You are convinced about the rational argument that Assam, Asam
>> (phonetic
>> > pronunciation only) is a local word but that you are not yet 100%
>> convinced
>> > and that you still have some shadow of doubt.
>> > 2) Your other problem is that you want to see some writing by some
>> > "real"
>> > historians and not to be convinced by writing of of some 'neophyte
>> > historians" like us. Here what you are saying is that you would have
>> been
>> > convinced of our arguments had we been "real" historians. I cannot help
>> you
>> > there. But I take it as a compliment. Because what you are saying is
>> > that
>> if
>> > I would have a PhD degree in history you would have been convinced
>> > beyond
>> a
>> > shadow of doubt that my arguments are correct and the name Assam or Asam
>> is
>> > not an anglicized word. ( I think I qualify for your other requirement.
>> > I
>> > have spent decades now studying the history of Assam albeit not for any
>> > degree.)
>> >
>> > I can however help you to some extent by submitting the following.
>> >
>> > Hope you remember that in 2006, we (some neophyte historians) wrote a
>> > Petition to the Chief Minister of Assam not to change the name of Assam
>> to
>> > Asom. The main arguments of the Petition was that 'Assam' is not an
>> > anglicized word but a word which was rooted in local culture. We sent
>> > the
>> > Petition to many historians, intellectuals and men of letters of Assam
>> for
>> > their support and signatures. To convince them of our argument, I
>> personally
>> > took the pain to discuss with many of them and sent them the earlier
>> > version of my article. You will be happy to know all of them that we
>> > have
>> > approcahed supported our arguments and signed the Petition. These
>> > include
>> > several Ex President of Axam Xahutya Xobha and many notable historians
>> > including Dr Jogendra Nath Phukan and Dr Sayeeda Yasmin Saikia. It was
>> also
>> > supported by Dr Bhupen Hazarika, Dr Hiren Gohain and whose signature did
>> not
>> > appear in the Petition. I present this as their stamp of approval of my
>> > arguments for
>> > your information since you are looking for support from "real"
>> historians.
>> >
>> > Besides these, there are many "real" historians who have shown that
>> 'Assam'
>> > or 'Asam" is not a anglicised name. I have cited some in my article. You
>> > will have read for yourself to see their writing.
>> >
>> > I post below the first fefteen signatories to the Petion (the fist three
>> > being the 'neophyte historians, in your words)
>> >
>> > Again, I am not trying to change your belief, but laying the facts for
>> > rational thinking.
>> >
>> > The fist fifteen signatories of the Petition:
>> >
>> >
>> > 1)Rajen & Ajanta Barua, Katy, Texas, USA (Engineer, Writer & Manager)
>> > 2)Chandan & Dr. Bonti Mahanta, St Louis, MO, USA (Architect &
>> Radiologist)
>> > 3)Wahid Saleh, Berkel en Rodenrijs, The Netherlands. (Retired IT
>> > Manager,
>> > Community service)
>> >
>> > 4)Homen Borgohain, Guwahati, Assam, ((Ex President Axam Xahitya Xabha)
>> > 5)Dr. Nagen Saikia , Guwahati, Assam (Ex President, Axam Xahitya Xabha)
>> > 6)Dr.Biren Dutta, Guwahati, Assam, (Ex President Axam Xahitya Xabha)
>> > 7)Dr. Lakhinandan Bora, Guwahati, Assam , (Ex President Axam Xahitya
>> Xabha)
>> > 8)Dr. Mamoni Raisom Goswami, Guwahati/Delhi, (Gyanpith Award Winner,
>> > Novelist, Professor)
>> > 9)Nagen Baruah, Dibrugarh, Assam (President Ahom Xahitya Xabha)
>> > 10)Dr. Jogendra Nath Phukan, Guwahati, Assam (Professor of History)
>> > 11)Sanjoy Hazarika, Guwahati/Delhi, India (Journalist, Author, Social
>> > Worker)
>> > 12)Shantikam & Sangita Hazarika, Guwahati, (Founder Director of AIM &
>> Dance
>> > Teacher)
>> > 13)Sumanta Chaliha, Guwahati, Assam, (Lexicographer, Author of Assamese
>> > Dictionaries)
>> > 14)Dr. Amrit Kr. Baruah, Baltimore, Maryland, USA (Writer, Author,
>> > Management Consultant)
>> > 15)Dr. Sayeeda Yasmin Saikia, Chapel Hill, NC, USA (Professor of
>> > History,
>> > Author on Ahom Buronjis)
>> >
>> > Rajen & Ajanta Barua
>> >
>> >
>> > From: kamal deka
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:47 PM
>> > To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
>> > Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>> >
>> >
>> > I will continue to believe that the name Assam was Anglicised until
>> proven
>> > otherwise--- beyond the shadow of a doubt,of course, by real
>> historians,who
>> > spent decades studying Assam's history and not by neophyte historians
>> >
>> > In various documents of British East India Company, in their
>> relationships
>> > with the last few Ahom kings, the name of country was mentioned as
>> > Assam.
>> > After the fall of the Ahom kingdom and the conquest by the British in
>> 1826,
>> > in the Treaty of Yandabo, "Assam" was used to denote the area under the
>> > erstwhile Ahoms, and its protectorates .
>> >
>> > *Theories on etymology*
>> >
>> > Though there exists a consensus on the fact that the name Assam is
>> > associated with the Ahom kingdom, and the exact etymology of Assam is
>> > not
>> > clear.The ere are a number of theories that address this issue.
>> >
>> > *Ha-sam*
>> >
>> > According to Amalendu Guha "The Ahom domain of Upper Assam came to be
>> known
>> > to the Dimasa and other Bodo people as "Ha-Sam" (the land of the Shams
>> > or
>> > Shans) in etheir language. From this the terms 'Asam' and 'Ahom' were
>> > derived in due course, and the first term came to stand for the expanded
>> > Ahom klngdom. Under the impact of the Indo-Aryan heritage of the region,
>> > the
>> > concept of 'Asam' was further extended to cover the entire area defined
>> as
>> > 'Kamarupa' in the Kalika-Purana (c 9th-10th centuries). The Ahom
>> statesmen
>> > and chroniclers wishfully looked forward to the Karatoya as their
>> > natural
>> > western frontier. They also looked upon themselves as the heirs of that
>> > glory that was ancient Kamarupa by right of conquest, and they long
>> > cherished infructuously their unfulfilled hopes of expanding up to that
>> > frontier." [*The Ahom Political System: An Enquiry into the State
>> Formation
>> > Process in Medieval Assam (1228-1714), Amalendu Guha, Social Scientist,
>> > Vol.
>> > 11, No. 12. (Dec., 1983), pp. 3-34.*]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>> >
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>> > >> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:50:23 -0500
>> > >> Subject: [Assam Society] Re: [FriendsofAssamNE] RE: [Assam] About the
>> > Name
>> > >> Assam
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>> > >>
>> > >> Wahid:
>> > >> Thanks. As I have shown in my article, the name 'Asam' or 'Asham'
>> > >> (for
>> > the
>> > >> name of the land) was much older than whcih came to be used for the
>> > name of
>> > >> the land only in the 17th century. Originally, the word was used in
>> the
>> > >> Kirton by Sri Xongkordeu for the Ti Ahom people in the 15th century.
>> > >> According to me, this word (for the people) as used by Xongkordeu,
>> was
>> > >> originally derived from the word Asahm (for the people written in
>> > Devanagari
>> > >> and Urdu skript) by the Moghols. This word later was used for the
>> land
>> > >> (instead of the people), and a new word Ahom was used for the people.
>> > Thus
>> > >> Ahom is also a new word, which is not to found in Ti Ahom Buronjis.
>> > Please
>> > >> note that the word Asham was originally used for the people and was
>> > later
>> > >> changed to mean the land instead of the people when the Moghols used
>> the
>> > >> name in correspondence.
>> > >> Thanks
>> > >> Rajen
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Wahid Saleh(GM) <<mailto:
>> > >> wahid.saleh at gmail.com>wahid.saleh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Rajen,
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks for sharing your article " "In your article you mentioned
>> > >> about
>> > >> Glanius.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Till now almost all the historians thought that Glanius went to
>> > >> Assam.
>> > But
>> > >> it was not Glanius who went to Assam. It was a Dutch sailor named
>> Frans
>> > van
>> > >> der Heiden who had to fight with the army of Mirju Mala. He kept a
>> diary
>> > >> which was first published in 1675. It is very difficult to find out
>> who
>> > >> Glanius was. He translated three books from Dutch including the diary
>> of
>> > >> Frans van der Heiden. The English translation was published in 1682
>> > (from
>> > >> UK). In his translation he used first person and nowhere mentioned or
>> > >> referred to the name of the original author Frans van de Heiden. As
>> most
>> > of
>> > >> the historians had access to the English translation only, they took
>> it
>> > for
>> > >> granted that Glanius went to Assam. I tried to find out about Glanius
>> > and
>> > >> published an article. Here you will get some back ground information.
>> A
>> > >> mistake did slip in to this version of the article. I misspelt the
>> name
>> > of
>> > >> Dr. Surya Kumar Bhuyan as Dr. Surya Kanta Bhuyan.
>> > >>
>> > >> It is certain that the name Assam existed before Mirju Mala invaded
>> > Assam
>> > >> and before the English came to Assam. Otherwise Frans van der Heiden
>> > would
>> > >> not be in a position to write about Assam and Assmers. Different
>> Mughal
>> > >> historians used the names Assam, Asham, Ascham, Acham and Ásám in
>> their
>> > >> writings." Asom" with an "o" in between was unknown to them. In
>> > particular,
>> > >> the word Assam (Asham) is mentioned in the following publications:
>> Abul
>> > >> Fazal Allámi in his compilation of Akbarnama, a biographical account
>> of
>> > >> Akbar (1542 -1605) mentioned "Rajah of Asham".
>> > >>
>> > >> The name Assam existed when Frans van der Heiden wrote his diary in
>> > 1662.
>> > >> To write about the place and its inhabitants he used the name of the
>> > State
>> > >> as it was known at that time to the local people. Otherwise he would
>> not
>> > >> have used the name.
>> > >>
>> > >> So we should start asking the question when was the name of Assam
>> > changed
>> > >> to ? In any case it is after 1662.
>> > >>
>> > >> Wahid
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Van: <mailto:FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com [mailto:<mailto:
>> > >> FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com>FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com]
>> > Namens
>> > >> Rajen Barua
>> > >> Verzonden: maandag 9 maart 2009 13:40
>> > >> Aan: assamnet
>> > >> CC: <mailto:FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com
>> > >> Onderwerp: [FriendsofAssamNE] RE: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>> > >>
>> > >> Friends
>> > >> Looks like many people still think that Assam is an englished word of
>> > the
>> > >> word Oxom. In fact pronounciation Asam (now a days written as Assam)
>> is
>> > much
>> > >> older than the Assamese word Oxom which is of later origin. One may
>> read
>> > my
>> > >> article attached.
>> > >> Rajen Barua
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:10:59 -0600
>> > >>> To: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>> > >>> From: <mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>cmahanta at charter.net
>> > >>> Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > whereas we know for sure the local people at that time as now
>> > >>> >called the land "Oxom",
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> *** You do?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> So much for the certitude of the omniscient!!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Did you know that the Ahom people, by and large, cannot pronounce
>> the
>> > >>> 'xo' sound and pronounce it as 'ho' or 'kho'?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> >
>> ***************************************************************************************************************
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> At 2:02 PM -0700 3/8/09, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>> > >>> >".......an invention of an European, and thus not credible?" - I
>> > >>> am
>> > >>> >not suggesting that at all. I am not Europhobic. :-)
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >Let's take the British days - the maps and the official records
>> > >>> >meticulously prepared during that time called "Oxom" as "Assam"
>> > >>> >whereas we know for sure the local people at that time as now
>> called
>> > >>> >the land "Oxom", the big difference being the sound of "x" versus
>> > >>> >"s". What credibility would you give to the authenticity of the
>> name
>> > >>> >"Assam" used by the British?
>> > >>> >In the same token, why would I accept "Asam" as written by a Dutch
>> > >>> >in 17th century as an authentic name? The Dutch, just like the
>> > >>> >British cannot pronounce "Oxom".
>> > >>> >If you accept "Asam" as in Dutch map as the original name, when
>> > >>> did
>> > >>> >it change to today's "Oxom" and who changed it?
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >I still say "Assam" is anglicized and "Asam" is Hollandized. Boy!
>> > >>> >that sounds too much like Hollandaise sauce.
>> > >>> >I am surprised there was no comment on the rest of my email.
>> > >>> >Dilip
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >________________________________
>> > >>> >From: Chan Mahanta <<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>
>> > cmahanta at charter.net>
>> > >>> >To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>> > >>> >world <<mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org>; <mailto:
>> > >>> adhazarika at yahoo.com>adhazarika at yahoo.com
>> > >>> >Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 4:25:08 PM
>> > >>> >Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >> But I wouldn't use these books nor a book written in another
>> > >>> >>European language (Dutch) to prove that >Assam is an indigenous
>> > word.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >*** Why? Are you suggested the Dutch traveller who prepared the
>> > >>> map
>> > >>> where
>> > >>> >Assam is recorded as "Asam" was likely an invention of an
>> > >>> European,
>> > >>> >and thus not credible?
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >At 12:50 PM -0700 3/8/09, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>> > >>> >>Kamal,
>> > >>> >>In today's parlance, you are absolutely correct. The local people
>> > >>>
>> > >> > >>call the land "Oxom" and, themselves "Oxomiya". When those words
>> > >>
>> > >>> >>are written as "Assam" and "Assamese", it is an attempt to
>> anglicize
>> > >>> >>the locally used words.
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>Now whether Oxom was derived from another word that was local to
>> the
>> > >>> >>area and non-Sanskrit in its origin is another issue.
>> > >>> >>As we all know the region (at least the western part) was called
>> > >>> >>Kamrupa in ancient literature. For the name Kamrupa to change to
>> > >>> >>Oxom, it is almost impossible. There is no resemblance between
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> >>two words. So the natural assumption would be that the
>> > >>> >>transformation to Oxom did not happen with the so called Hindu
>> > >>> >>settlers of Assam from the west. It is more likely it happened
>> with
>> > >>> > >the domination of Assam by the Ahoms, who for the first time in
>> > >>> a
>> > >>> >>long time brought the people of the region under one rule through
>> > >>> >>political acumen.
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>I have in my possession books written/compiled by British
>> > >>> officers
>> > >>> >>where the word Assam is used. But I wouldn't use these books nor
>> > >>> a
>> > >>> >>book written in another European language (Dutch) to prove that
>> > >>> >>Assam is an indigenous word. There needs to be more research done
>> by
>> > >>> >>Xahitya Xobha, digging into the Buranjis of the Ahoms and
>> > >>> whatever
>> > >>> >>remains of the Ahom language.
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>I am told by my Ahom friends that many Buranjis were burnt during
>> > >>> >>the waning years of Ahom rule. I am also told many Buranjis are
>> > >>> >>still available in the Ahom villages kept as family heirloom.
>> > >>> Does
>> > >>> >>anyone know how to read and decipher these tomes?
>> > >>> >>Isn't there a scholar in all of Assam who could trace through the
>> > >>> >>transformation of Ahom language from 1228 to the British days
>> > >>> >>to see if the name Oxom was coined by the Ahoms to describe their
>> > >>> kingdom?
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>When I am on a roll, let me also ask how the Shans from Burma
>> > >>> >>renamed themselves as Ahoms and when it happened.
>> > >>> >>If all of this is known to some netter, please publish it, so
>> > >>> that
>> > >>> > >some of us not exposed to recent findings in Assam can learn and
>> > >>> >>stop arguing over a name.
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>Dilip Deka
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>________________________________
>> > >>> >>From: kamal deka <<mailto:kjit.deka at gmail.com>kjit.deka at gmail.com
>> >
>> > >>> >>To: <mailto:adhazarika at yahoo.com>adhazarika at yahoo.com; A Mailing
>> > list
>> > >>> for people interested in
>> > >>> >>Assam from around the world <<mailto:assam at assamnet.org>
>> > >>> assam at assamnet.org>
>> > >>> >>Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:23:39 AM
>> > >>> >>Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>In my humble view,the very word " Assam" is an Anglicised one.As
>> an
>> > >>> >>adjective," Assamese " pertains to the characteristic of the
>> people
>> > of
>> > >>> >>Assam and their culture..As a noun,it means the native of Assam
>> > >>> or
>> > the
>> > >>> >>language of Assam.
>> > >>> >>In view of the above fact.Assam Sahitya Sabha may not be in
>> > >>> error.
>> > >>> >>Kamal
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Ajoy Hazarika <<mailto:
>> > >>> adhazarika at yahoo.com>adhazarika at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>> Dear Oxom Xahityo Xobha:
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> I agree with Chandan Mahanta. If you do not know anything about
>> > it,
>> > >>> >>> an article written by H. Borgohain. I could not find the
>> article,
>> > >>> >>> otherwise I could have forwarded to you.
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> Hi Chandan, Rajen, if you have that article please forward that
>> to
>> > .
>> > >>> Oxom
>> > >>> >>> Xahityo Xobha
>> > >>> >>> Oxom Xahityo Xobha. It will also help if Oxom Xahityo Xobha
>> study
>> > >>> >>> the Bodo language. There are other historical facts. Chandan
>> > >>> and
>> > >>> Rajen
>> > >>> >>> can help.
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> A. D. Hazarika
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Chan Mahanta <<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>
>> > >>> cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>> > >>> >>> From: Chan Mahanta <<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>
>> > >>> cmahanta at charter.net>
>> > >>> >>> Subject: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>> > >>> >>> To: <mailto:info at axomxahityaxobha.org>info at axomxahityaxobha.org
>> > >>> >>> Cc: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>> > >>> >>> Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 9:05 PM
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> Dear Oxom Xahityo Xobha:
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> >In 1917 the Asom Sahitya Sabha was formed as a
>> > >>> >>> >guardian of the Assamese society and the forum for the
>> > >>> >> > >development of Assamese language and literature.
>> > >>> >>> >The word Assamese is an English one, built on the same
>> > >>>
>> > >> > >>> >principle as Cingalese, Canarese, etc. It is based on the
>> > >>
>> > >>> >>> >English word Assam by which the tract consisting of the
>> > >>> >>> >Brahmaputra valley is known.
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> *** It is pretty sad that you don't know the origins of the
>> > >>> name
>> > >>> >>> Assam, that you claim is an English name.
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> It is such display of ignorance of our history and an absence
>> > >>> of
>> > >>> >>> intellectual curiosity to know what it truly is, that makes the
>> > >>> likes
>> > >>> >>> of Oxom Xahityo Xobha irrelevant to our cultural heritage
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> Sondon Mohonto
>> > >>> >>>
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