[Assam] About the Name Assam
kamal deka
kjit.deka at gmail.com
Sun Mar 15 08:37:26 PDT 2009
If I am not mistaken,the etymology of the word " Assam" is being discussed.
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:20 AM, uttam borthakur <
uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Are we discussing the spelling of 'Assam' in English or how it is
> pronounced? ( Please note that being an Oxomiya I do not pronounce 'a' as
> the Brits and the Americans do. So, by 'how it is pronounced' I mean by
> peoples across the board)
> Uttam Kumar Borthakur
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <
> assam at assamnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, 15 March, 2009 8:27:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>
> Who are " they"? If the certified authorities already know the truth, then
> why should the issue be 'mired in controvery'?That is the sole reason why
> we
> need a consensus.
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
> wrote:
>
> > The bottom line is--every " discovery" must be subjected to scrutiny
> >> before
> >> it can be taken as an established fact.
> >>
> >
> >
> > **** I don't know WHO might argue otherwise. I suspect the authorities
> > whose certification would be required to accept the authenticity of the
> > Dutch documents that Wahid Saleh showed us need some prodding to do the
> due
> > diligence. But then again they may already know the truths they need to
> > know and would not stoop to examine something found by rank amateurs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 9:15 AM -0500 3/15/09, kamal deka wrote:
> >
> >> I f the etymology of Assam " is mired in controversy",then why must we
> >> accept Assam ( mark you,not Asam/Acam/Asham )as the original name of our
> >> state?By the way,hypothesis is one thing while ' undeniable fact '
> >> quite another.
> >> At no point of my writing did I suggest that the name Assam should not
> be
> >> accepted as the name of our state.That is not the moot point.
> >> If the " word Assam has not found incontrovertible origin",in what sense
> >> would it be wrong to say that the very name called Assam could be an
> >> Anglicised one?
> >> The bottom line is--every " discovery" must be subjected to scrutiny
> >> before
> >> it can be taken as an established fact.
> >> KJ Deka
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, uttam borthakur <
> >> uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in
> >>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>
> >> >>>>>>The statement like " I think" can't be accepted as an unwavering
> >>> truth.The
> >>> reference must be intact.
> >>>
> >>> ####### 'I think' was to suggest that I do not have the copy of the
> >>> newspaper that published Professor Jogen Phukan's photograph
> addressing
> >>> a
> >>> huge rally of some sort on this isuue, nor do I have access to the TV
> >>> footage reporting it. My memory of the news items therefore may not be
> >>> unwavering truth, but it can possibly be retrieved by resouceful
> >>> persons.
> >>>
> >>> As the question of 'real historian' was tossed up, I thought I may
> make
> >>> an
> >>> addition to the bibliography provided by Sri Rajen Barua and W. Saleh.
> >>> But I
> >>> should not have dared where angels fear to tread.
> >>>
> >>> You are correct that the word 'Assam' has not found an
> incontrovertible
> >>> origin. So have many things in life. Like the origin of the human
> beings
> >>> and/or life itself. But we do not teach or push it down some one's
> >>> throat
> >>> that Adam and Eve started the whole process, though there are many
> >>> takers
> >>> for such an idea. We all work on working hypothesis and probability as
> >>> adults.
> >>>
> >>> Here, the origin of the word 'Assam' is still mired in controversy.
> Then
> >>> there should not be any reason to say for sure that it is anglicised
> >>> version
> >>> of Oxom or some other such words nor there should be any inchoate
> >>> attempts
> >>> to rename the state Asom, as some quarters are trying to do.
> >>>
> >>> Pending a final resolution, if any, let us accept ASSAM as a name by
> >>> which
> >>> our land is known to the world, and OXOM is what we ourselves call our
> >>> land
> >>> as.
> >>>
> >>> Uttam Kumar Borthakur
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
> >>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
> world
> >>> <
> >>> assam at assamnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, 15 March, 2009 6:26:52 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
> >>>
> >>> The statement like " I think" can't be accepted as an unwavering
> >>> truth.The
> >>> reference must be intact.Simply put,there is no consensus among
> >>> academicians/historians in so far as this issue is concerned.
> >>>
> >> > KJDeka
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:16 PM, uttam borthakur <
> >>> uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I think a 'real historian' Dr. Jogen Phukan almost led an mass
> action
> >>> > against the change of name to Asom for same or similar reasons.
> >>> >
> >>> > Uttam Kumar Borthakur
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ________________________________
> >>> > From: Rajen & Ajanta Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com>
> >>> > To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
> >>> world <
> >>> > assam at assamnet.org>
> >>> > Sent: Saturday, 14 March, 2009 7:45:49 PM
> >>> > Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
> >>>
> >> > >
> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I will continue to believe that the name Assam was Anglicised until
> >>> proven
> >>> > otherwise--- beyond the shadow of a doubt,of course, by real
> >>> historians,who
> >>> > spent decades studying Assam's history and not by neophyte
> historians
> >>> >
> >>> > Dear Kamal Bhaity:
> >>> > Thanks for your opinion on my article and stating your 'belief'.
> >>> > My article was written not to change yours or anybody's 'belief',
> but
> >>> to
> >>> > let people see the facts and to think rationally analysing the
> >>> available
> >>> > facts of history. If one does that, one will normally come to the
> >>> obvious
> >>> > conclusion that Assam is not a anglicized word. In your writing also
> >>> you
> >>> > have indicated that. However your problem in still sticking to your
> >>> old
> >>> > belief that Assam is an anglicized word seems to be two:
> >>> > 1) You are convinced about the rational argument that Assam, Asam
> >>> (phonetic
> >>> > pronunciation only) is a local word but that you are not yet 100%
> >>> convinced
> >>> > and that you still have some shadow of doubt.
> >>> > 2) Your other problem is that you want to see some writing by some
> >>> "real"
> >>> > historians and not to be convinced by writing of of some 'neophyte
> >>> > historians" like us. Here what you are saying is that you would
> have
> >>> been
> >>> > convinced of our arguments had we been "real" historians. I cannot
> >>> help
> >>> you
> >>> > there. But I take it as a compliment. Because what you are saying is
> >>> that
> >>> if
> >>> > I would have a PhD degree in history you would have been convinced
> >>> beyond
> >>> a
> >>> > shadow of doubt that my arguments are correct and the name Assam or
> >>> Asam
> >>> is
> >>> > not an anglicized word. ( I think I qualify for your other
> >>> requirement. I
> >>> > have spent decades now studying the history of Assam albeit not for
> >>> any
> >>> > degree.)
> >>> >
> >>> > I can however help you to some extent by submitting the following.
> >>> >
> >>> > Hope you remember that in 2006, we (some neophyte historians) wrote
> a
> >>> > Petition to the Chief Minister of Assam not to change the name of
> >>> Assam
> >>> to
> >>> > Asom. The main arguments of the Petition was that 'Assam' is not an
> >>> > anglicized word but a word which was rooted in local culture. We
> sent
> >>> the
> >>> > Petition to many historians, intellectuals and men of letters of
> Assam
> >>> for
> >>> > their support and signatures. To convince them of our argument, I
> >>> personally
> >>> > took the pain to discuss with many of them and sent them the
> earlier
> >>> > version of my article. You will be happy to know all of them that we
> >>> have
> >>> > approcahed supported our arguments and signed the Petition. These
> >>> include
> >>> > several Ex President of Axam Xahutya Xobha and many notable
> historians
> >>> > including Dr Jogendra Nath Phukan and Dr Sayeeda Yasmin Saikia. It
> was
> >>> also
> >>> > supported by Dr Bhupen Hazarika, Dr Hiren Gohain and whose signature
> >>> did
> >>> not
> >>> > appear in the Petition. I present this as their stamp of approval of
> >>> my
> >>> > arguments for
> >>> > your information since you are looking for support from "real"
> >>> historians.
> >>> >
> >>> > Besides these, there are many "real" historians who have shown that
> >>> 'Assam'
> >>> > or 'Asam" is not a anglicised name. I have cited some in my article.
> >>> You
> >>> > will have read for yourself to see their writing.
> >>> >
> >>> > I post below the first fefteen signatories to the Petion (the fist
> >>> three
> >>> > being the 'neophyte historians, in your words)
> >>> >
> >>> > Again, I am not trying to change your belief, but laying the facts
> for
> >>> > rational thinking.
> >>> >
> >>> > The fist fifteen signatories of the Petition:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > 1)Rajen & Ajanta Barua, Katy, Texas, USA (Engineer, Writer &
> Manager)
> >>> > 2)Chandan & Dr. Bonti Mahanta, St Louis, MO, USA (Architect &
> >>>
> >> > Radiologist)
> >>
> >>> > 3)Wahid Saleh, Berkel en Rodenrijs, The Netherlands. (Retired IT
> >>> Manager,
> >>> > Community service)
> >>> >
> >>> > 4)Homen Borgohain, Guwahati, Assam, ((Ex President Axam Xahitya
> Xabha)
> >>> > 5)Dr. Nagen Saikia , Guwahati, Assam (Ex President, Axam Xahitya
> >>> Xabha)
> >>> > 6)Dr.Biren Dutta, Guwahati, Assam, (Ex President Axam Xahitya Xabha)
> >>> > 7)Dr. Lakhinandan Bora, Guwahati, Assam , (Ex President Axam Xahitya
> >>> Xabha)
> >>> > 8)Dr. Mamoni Raisom Goswami, Guwahati/Delhi, (Gyanpith Award Winner,
> >>> > Novelist, Professor)
> >>>
> >> > > 9)Nagen Baruah, Dibrugarh, Assam (President Ahom Xahitya Xabha)
> >>
> >>> > 10)Dr. Jogendra Nath Phukan, Guwahati, Assam (Professor of History)
> >>> > 11)Sanjoy Hazarika, Guwahati/Delhi, India (Journalist, Author,
> Social
> >>> > Worker)
> >>> > 12)Shantikam & Sangita Hazarika, Guwahati, (Founder Director of AIM
> &
> >>> Dance
> >>> > Teacher)
> >>> > 13)Sumanta Chaliha, Guwahati, Assam, (Lexicographer, Author of
> >>> Assamese
> >>> > Dictionaries)
> >>> > 14)Dr. Amrit Kr. Baruah, Baltimore, Maryland, USA (Writer, Author,
> >>> > Management Consultant)
> >>> > 15)Dr. Sayeeda Yasmin Saikia, Chapel Hill, NC, USA (Professor of
> >>> History,
> >>> > Author on Ahom Buronjis)
> >>> >
> >>> > Rajen & Ajanta Barua
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > From: kamal deka
> >>> > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:47 PM
> >>> > To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
> >>> world
> >>> > Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I will continue to believe that the name Assam was Anglicised until
> >>> proven
> >>> > otherwise--- beyond the shadow of a doubt,of course, by real
> >>> historians,who
> >>> > spent decades studying Assam's history and not by neophyte
> historians
> >>> >
> >>> > In various documents of British East India Company, in their
> >>> relationships
> >>> > with the last few Ahom kings, the name of country was mentioned as
> >>> Assam.
> >>> > After the fall of the Ahom kingdom and the conquest by the British
> in
> >>> 1826,
> >>> > in the Treaty of Yandabo, "Assam" was used to denote the area under
> >>> the
> >>> > erstwhile Ahoms, and its protectorates .
> >>> >
> >>> > *Theories on etymology*
> >>> >
> >>> > Though there exists a consensus on the fact that the name Assam is
> >>> > associated with the Ahom kingdom, and the exact etymology of Assam
> is
> >>> not
> >>> > clear.The ere are a number of theories that address this issue.
> >>> >
> >>> > *Ha-sam*
> >>> >
> >>> > According to Amalendu Guha "The Ahom domain of Upper Assam came to
> be
> >>> known
> >>> > to the Dimasa and other Bodo people as "Ha-Sam" (the land of the
> Shams
> >>> or
> >>> > Shans) in etheir language. From this the terms 'Asam' and 'Ahom'
> were
> >>> > derived in due course, and the first term came to stand for the
> >>> expanded
> >>> > Ahom klngdom. Under the impact of the Indo-Aryan heritage of the
> >>> region,
> >>> > the
> >>> > concept of 'Asam' was further extended to cover the entire area
> >>> defined
> >>> as
> >>> > 'Kamarupa' in the Kalika-Purana (c 9th-10th centuries). The Ahom
> >>> statesmen
> >>> > and chroniclers wishfully looked forward to the Karatoya as their
> >>> natural
> >>> > western frontier. They also looked upon themselves as the heirs of
> >>> that
> >>> > glory that was ancient Kamarupa by right of conquest, and they long
> >>> > cherished infructuously their unfulfilled hopes of expanding up to
> >>> that
> >>> > frontier." [*The Ahom Political System: An Enquiry into the State
> >>> Formation
> >>> > Process in Medieval Assam (1228-1714), Amalendu Guha, Social
> >>> Scientist,
> >>> > Vol.
> >>> > 11, No. 12. (Dec., 1983), pp. 3-34.*]
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Forwarded from: Fwd: [Assam Society] Re: [FriendsofAssamNE]
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > X-Chzlrs: 0
> >>> > >> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=
> >>> yahoogroups.com
> >>> > ;
> >>> > >> s=lima; t=1236862244;
> >>> bh=EpKjee/FIGHrK2a2YAS64Uh3Ph2fqAztNVbMddyuMyE=;
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> h=Received:Received:Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:In-Reply-To:References:Message-ID:To:Cc:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:From:X-Yahoo-Profile:Sender:MIME-Version:Mailing-List:Delivered-To:List-Id:Precedence:List-Unsubscribe:Date:Subject:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Reply-To:Content-Type;
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> b=Kk1fv3QY5VjrcxQhgt4mArclyJOVzjMhj2SkmV18KE9ufu6ulQ6f92pIANM1bSpy4OYVqScDAy0QF7PzcGZQvKXPF0q3HJssXVb10vEF4HEQk0Nt8HuTZNwqeI4yJg61
> >>>
> >> > > >> X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 12609498-m1940
> >>
> >>> > >> X-Apparently-To: AssamSociety at yahoogroups.com
> >>> > >> X-Received: (qmail 50227 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2009
> >>> 12:50:25
> >>> > -0000
> >>> > >> X-Received: from unknown (69.147.108.201)
> >>> > >> by 98.137.34.37 with QMQP; 12 Mar 2009 12:50:25 -0000
> >>> > >> X-Received: from unknown (HELO rv-out-0506.google.com)
> >>> (209.85.198.238)
> >>> > >> by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2009 12:50:24 -0000
> >>>
> >> > > >> X-Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id
> >> g9so3674380rvb.5
> >>
> >>> > >> for <multiple recipients>; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:50:24 -0700
> >>> (PDT)
> >>> > >> X-Received: by 10.142.79.17 with SMTP id
> >>> > >> c17mr4284499wfb.171.1236862224028; Thu,
> >>> > >> 12 Mar 2009 05:50:24 -0700 (PDT)
> >>> > >> To: FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com
> >>> > >> Cc: ASA ASA <AssamSociety at yahoogroups.com>,
> >>> > >> Assam in Bangalore <assam_in_bangalore at yahoogroups.com>
> >>> > >> X-Originating-IP: 209.85.198.238
> >>> > >> X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0
> >>> > >> From: Rajen Barua <rajen.barua at gmail.com>
> >>> > >> X-Yahoo-Profile: baruarajen
> >>> > >> Sender: AssamSociety at yahoogroups.com
> >>> > >> Mailing-List: list AssamSociety at yahoogroups.com; contact
> >>> > >> AssamSociety-owner at yahoogroups.com
> >>> > >> Delivered-To: mailing list AssamSociety at yahoogroups.com
> >>> > >> List-Id: <AssamSociety.yahoogroups.com<http://assamsociety.yahoogroups.com/>
> <http://assamsociety.yahoogroups.com/>
> >>> <http://assamsociety.yahoogroups.com/>
> >>> <http://assamsociety.yahoogroups.com/>
> >>> > <http://assamsociety.yahoogroups.com/>
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:
> AssamSociety-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com
> >>> >
> >>> > >> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:50:23 -0500
> >>> > >> Subject: [Assam Society] Re: [FriendsofAssamNE] RE: [Assam] About
> >>> the
> >>> > Name
> >>> > >> Assam
> >>> > >> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email-ff-m
> >>> > >> Reply-To: AssamSociety at yahoogroups.com
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Wahid:
> >>> > >> Thanks. As I have shown in my article, the name 'Asam' or 'Asham'
> >>> (for
> >>> > the
> >>> > >> name of the land) was much older than whcih came to be used for
> >>> the
> >>> > name of
> >>> > >> the land only in the 17th century. Originally, the word was used
> >>> in
> >>> the
> >>> > >> Kirton by Sri Xongkordeu for the Ti Ahom people in the 15th
> >>> century.
> >>> > >> According to me, this word (for the people) as used by
> Xongkordeu,
> >>> was
> >>> > >> originally derived from the word Asahm (for the people written in
> >>> > Devanagari
> >>> > >> and Urdu skript) by the Moghols. This word later was used for
> the
> >>> land
> >>> > >> (instead of the people), and a new word Ahom was used for the
> >>> people.
> >>> > Thus
> >>> > >> Ahom is also a new word, which is not to found in Ti Ahom
> Buronjis.
> >>> > Please
> >>> > >> note that the word Asham was originally used for the people and
> was
> >>> > later
> >>> > >> changed to mean the land instead of the people when the Moghols
> >>> used
> >>> the
> >>> > >> name in correspondence.
> >>> > >> Thanks
> >>> > >> Rajen
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Wahid Saleh(GM) <<mailto:
> >>> > >> wahid.saleh at gmail.com>wahid.saleh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Rajen,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Thanks for sharing your article " "In your article you mentioned
> >>> about
> >>> > >> Glanius.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Till now almost all the historians thought that Glanius went to
> >>> Assam.
> >>> > But
> >>> > >> it was not Glanius who went to Assam. It was a Dutch sailor named
> >>> Frans
> >>> > van
> >>> > >> der Heiden who had to fight with the army of Mirju Mala. He kept
> a
> >>> diary
> >>> > >> which was first published in 1675. It is very difficult to find
> out
> >>> who
> >>> > >> Glanius was. He translated three books from Dutch including the
> >>> diary
> >>> of
> >>> > >> Frans van der Heiden. The English translation was published in
> 1682
> >>> > (from
> >>> > >> UK). In his translation he used first person and nowhere
> mentioned
> >>> or
> >>> > >> referred to the name of the original author Frans van de Heiden.
> As
> >>> most
> >>> > of
> >>> > >> the historians had access to the English translation only, they
> >>> took
> >>> it
> >>> > for
> >>> > >> granted that Glanius went to Assam. I tried to find out about
> >>> Glanius
> >>> > and
> >>> > >> published an article. Here you will get some back ground
> >>> information.
> >>> A
> >>> > >> mistake did slip in to this version of the article. I misspelt
> the
> >>> name
> >>> > of
> >>> > >> Dr. Surya Kumar Bhuyan as Dr. Surya Kanta Bhuyan.
> >>>
> >> > > >>
> >>
> >>> > >> It is certain that the name Assam existed before Mirju Mala
> invaded
> >>> > Assam
> >>> > >> and before the English came to Assam. Otherwise Frans van der
> >>> Heiden
> >>> > would
> >>> > >> not be in a position to write about Assam and Assmers. Different
> >>> Mughal
> >>> > >> historians used the names Assam, Asham, Ascham, Acham and Ásám in
> >>> their
> >>> > >> writings." Asom" with an "o" in between was unknown to them. In
> >>> > particular,
> >>> > >> the word Assam (Asham) is mentioned in the following
> publications:
> >>>
> >> > Abul
> >>
> >>> > >> Fazal Allámi in his compilation of Akbarnama, a biographical
> >>> account
> >>> of
> >>> > >> Akbar (1542 -1605) mentioned "Rajah of Asham".
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> The name Assam existed when Frans van der Heiden wrote his diary
> in
> >>> > 1662.
> >>> > >> To write about the place and its inhabitants he used the name of
> >>> the
> >>> > State
> >>> > >> as it was known at that time to the local people. Otherwise he
> >>> would
> >>> not
> >>> > >> have used the name.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> So we should start asking the question when was the name of Assam
> >>> > changed
> >>> > >> to ? In any case it is after 1662.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Wahid
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Van: <mailto:FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com>
> >>> > >> FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com [mailto:<mailto:
> >>> > >> FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com>
> FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com]
> >>> > Namens
> >>> > >> Rajen Barua
> >>> > >> Verzonden: maandag 9 maart 2009 13:40
> >>> > >> Aan: assamnet
> >>> > >> CC: <mailto:FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com>
> >>> > >> FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com
> >>> > >> Onderwerp: [FriendsofAssamNE] RE: [Assam] About the Name Assam
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Friends
> >>> > >> Looks like many people still think that Assam is an englished
> word
> >>> of
> >>> > the
> >>> > >> word Oxom. In fact pronounciation Asam (now a days written as
> >>> Assam)
> >>> is
> >>> > much
> >>> > >> older than the Assamese word Oxom which is of later origin. One
> may
> >>> read
> >>> > my
> >>> > >> article attached.
> >>> > >> Rajen Barua
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:10:59 -0600
> >>> > >>> To: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > >>> From: <mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>cmahanta at charter.net
> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> > whereas we know for sure the local people at that time as now
> >>> > >>> >called the land "Oxom",
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> *** You do?
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> So much for the certitude of the omniscient!!
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Did you know that the Ahom people, by and large, cannot
> pronounce
> >>> the
> >>> > >>> 'xo' sound and pronounce it as 'ho' or 'kho'?
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> ***************************************************************************************************************
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> At 2:02 PM -0700 3/8/09, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
> >>> > >>> >".......an invention of an European, and thus not credible?" -
> I
> >>> am
> >>> > >>> >not suggesting that at all. I am not Europhobic. :-)
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >Let's take the British days - the maps and the official
> records
> >>> > >>> >meticulously prepared during that time called "Oxom" as
> "Assam"
> >>> > >>> >whereas we know for sure the local people at that time as now
> >>> called
> >>> > >>> >the land "Oxom", the big difference being the sound of "x"
> >>> versus
> >>> > >>> >"s". What credibility would you give to the authenticity of
> the
> >>> name
> >>> > >>> >"Assam" used by the British?
> >>> > >>> >In the same token, why would I accept "Asam" as written by a
> >>> Dutch
> >>> > >>> >in 17th century as an authentic name? The Dutch, just like the
> >>> > >>> >British cannot pronounce "Oxom".
> >>> > >>> >If you accept "Asam" as in Dutch map as the original name,
> when
> >>> did
> >>> > >>> >it change to today's "Oxom" and who changed it?
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >I still say "Assam" is anglicized and "Asam" is Hollandized.
> >>> Boy!
> >>> > >>> >that sounds too much like Hollandaise sauce.
> >>> > >>> >I am surprised there was no comment on the rest of my email.
> >>> > >>> >Dilip
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >________________________________
> >>> > >>> >From: Chan Mahanta <<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>
> >>> > cmahanta at charter.net>
> >>> > >>> >To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around
> >>> the
> >>>
> >> > > >>> >world <<mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org>;
> >> <mailto:
> >>
> >>> > >>> adhazarika at yahoo.com>adhazarika at yahoo.com
> >>> > >>> >Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 4:25:08 PM
> >>> > >>> >Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >> But I wouldn't use these books nor a book written in another
> >>> > >>> >>European language (Dutch) to prove that >Assam is an
> indigenous
> >>> > word.
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >*** Why? Are you suggested the Dutch traveller who prepared
> the
> >>> map
> >>>
> >> > > >>> where
> >>
> >>> > >>> >Assam is recorded as "Asam" was likely an invention of an
> >>> European,
> >>> > >>> >and thus not credible?
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >At 12:50 PM -0700 3/8/09, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
> >>> > >>> >>Kamal,
> >>> > >>> >>In today's parlance, you are absolutely correct. The local
> >>> people
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >> > >>call the land "Oxom" and, themselves "Oxomiya". When those
> >>> words
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> >>are written as "Assam" and "Assamese", it is an attempt to
> >>> anglicize
> >>> > >>> >>the locally used words.
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>Now whether Oxom was derived from another word that was local
> >>> to
> >>> the
> >>> > >>> >>area and non-Sanskrit in its origin is another issue.
> >>> > >>> >>As we all know the region (at least the western part) was
> >>> called
> >>> > >>> >>Kamrupa in ancient literature. For the name Kamrupa to change
> >>> to
> >>> > >>> >>Oxom, it is almost impossible. There is no resemblance
> between
> >>> the
> >>> > >>> >>two words. So the natural assumption would be that the
> >>> > >>> >>transformation to Oxom did not happen with the so called
> Hindu
> >>> > >>> >>settlers of Assam from the west. It is more likely it
> happened
> >>> with
> >>> > >>> > >the domination of Assam by the Ahoms, who for the first time
> >>> in a
> >>> > >>> >>long time brought the people of the region under one rule
> >>> through
> >>> > >>> >>political acumen.
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>I have in my possession books written/compiled by British
> >>> officers
> >>> > >>> >>where the word Assam is used. But I wouldn't use these books
> >>> nor a
> >>> > >>> >>book written in another European language (Dutch) to prove
> that
> >>> > >>> >>Assam is an indigenous word. There needs to be more research
> >>> done
> >>> by
> >>> > >>> >>Xahitya Xobha, digging into the Buranjis of the Ahoms and
> >>> whatever
> >>> > >>> >>remains of the Ahom language.
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>I am told by my Ahom friends that many Buranjis were burnt
> >>> during
> >>> > >>> >>the waning years of Ahom rule. I am also told many Buranjis
> are
> >>> > >>> >>still available in the Ahom villages kept as family heirloom.
> >>> Does
> >>> > >>> >>anyone know how to read and decipher these tomes?
> >>> > >>> >>Isn't there a scholar in all of Assam who could trace through
> >>> the
> >>> > >>> >>transformation of Ahom language from 1228 to the British days
> >>> > >>> >>to see if the name Oxom was coined by the Ahoms to describe
> >>> their
> >>> > >>> kingdom?
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>When I am on a roll, let me also ask how the Shans from Burma
> >>> > >>> >>renamed themselves as Ahoms and when it happened.
> >>> > >>> >>If all of this is known to some netter, please publish it, so
> >>> that
> >>> > >>> > >some of us not exposed to recent findings in Assam can learn
> >>> and
> >>> > >>> >>stop arguing over a name.
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>Dilip Deka
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>________________________________
> >>> > >>> >>From: kamal deka <<mailto:kjit.deka at gmail.com>
> >>> kjit.deka at gmail.com
> >>> >
> >>> > >>> >>To: <mailto:adhazarika at yahoo.com>adhazarika at yahoo.com; A
> >>> Mailing
> >>> > list
> >>> > >>> for people interested in
> >>> > >>> >>Assam from around the world <<mailto:assam at assamnet.org>
> >>> > >>> assam at assamnet.org>
> >>> > >>> >>Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:23:39 AM
> >>> > >>> >>Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>In my humble view,the very word " Assam" is an Anglicised
> >>> one.As
> >>> an
> >>> > >>> >>adjective," Assamese " pertains to the characteristic of the
> >>> people
> >>> > of
> >>> > >>> >>Assam and their culture..As a noun,it means the native of
> Assam
> >>> or
> >>> > the
> >>> > >>> >>language of Assam.
> >>> > >>> >>In view of the above fact.Assam Sahitya Sabha may not be in
> >>> error.
> >>>
> >> > > >>> >>Kamal
> >>
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Ajoy Hazarika <<mailto:
> >>> > >>> adhazarika at yahoo.com>adhazarika at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>> Dear Oxom Xahityo Xobha:
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>> I agree with Chandan Mahanta. If you do not know anything
> >>> about
> >>> > it,
> >>> > >>> >>> an article written by H. Borgohain. I could not find the
> >>> article,
> >>> > >>> >>> otherwise I could have forwarded to you.
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>> Hi Chandan, Rajen, if you have that article please forward
> >>> that
> >>>
> >> > to
> >>
> >>> > .
> >>> > >>> Oxom
> >>> > >>> >>> Xahityo Xobha
> >>> > >>> >>> Oxom Xahityo Xobha. It will also help if Oxom Xahityo Xobha
> >>> study
> >>> > >>> >>> the Bodo language. There are other historical facts.
> Chandan
> >>> and
> >>> > >>> Rajen
> >>> > >>> >>> can help.
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>> A. D. Hazarika
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Chan Mahanta <<mailto:
> >>> cmahanta at charter.net>
> >>> > >>> cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
> >>> > >>> >>> From: Chan Mahanta <<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>
> >>> > >>> cmahanta at charter.net>
> >>> > >>> >>> Subject: [Assam] About the Name Assam
> >>> > >>> >>> To: <mailto:info at axomxahityaxobha.org>
> >>> info at axomxahityaxobha.org
> >>> > >>> >>> Cc: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > >>> >>> Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 9:05 PM
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>> Dear Oxom Xahityo Xobha:
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>> >In 1917 the Asom Sahitya Sabha was formed as a
> >>> > >>> >>> >guardian of the Assamese society and the forum for the
> >>> > >>> >> > >development of Assamese language and literature.
> >>> > >>> >>> >The word Assamese is an English one, built on the same
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >> > >>> >principle as Cingalese, Canarese, etc. It is based on the
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> >>> >English word Assam by which the tract consisting of the
> >>> > >>> >>> >Brahmaputra valley is known.
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>> *** It is pretty sad that you don't know the origins of the
> >>> name
> >>> > >>> >>> Assam, that you claim is an English name.
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>> It is such display of ignorance of our history and an
> absence
> >>> of
> >>> > >>> >>> intellectual curiosity to know what it truly is, that makes
> >>> the
> >>> > >>> likes
> >>> > >>> >>> of Oxom Xahityo Xobha irrelevant to our cultural heritage
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>> Sondon Mohonto
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>> USA
> >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> > >>> >>> assam mailing list
> >>> > >>> >>> <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > >>> >>> <http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org>
> >>> > >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> > >>> >>> assam mailing list
> >>> > >>> >>> <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > >>> >>> <http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org>
> >>> > >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>> > >>> >>>
> >>> > >>> >>_______________________________________________
> >>> > >>> >>assam mailing list
> >>> > >>> >><mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > >>> >><http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet..org>
> >>> > >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet..org
> >>> > >>> >>_______________________________________________
> >>> > >>> >>assam mailing list
> >>> > >>> >><mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > >>> >><http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org>
> >>> > >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >_______________________________________________
> >>> > >>> >assam mailing list
> >>> > >>> ><mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > >>> ><http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org>
> >>> > >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>> > >>> >_______________________________________________
> >>> > >>> >assam mailing list
> >>> > >>> ><mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > >>> ><http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org>
> >>> > >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>>
> >> > > >>>
> >>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> > >>> assam mailing list
> >>> > >>> <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> <http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org>
> >>> > >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> --
> >>> > >> Rajen Barua, Houston
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> __._,_.___
> >>> > >> <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety/message/1940;_ylc=X3oDMTM1Z3ZrZnNvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRtc2dJZAMxOTQwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTIzNjg2MjI0MwR0cGNJZAMxOTQw
> >>>
> >> > > >Messages
> >>
> >>> > >> in this topic (1) <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxb3YzMGZiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRtc2dJZAMxOTQwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTIzNjg2MjI0Mw--?act=reply&messageNum=1940
> >>> > >Reply
> >>> > >> (via web post) | <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmdXFvaG1oBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyMzY4NjIyNDM-
> >>> > >Start
> >>> > >> a new topic
> >>> > >> <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZ21sdWcwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNtc2dzBHN0aW1lAzEyMzY4NjIyNDM-
> >>> > >Messages
> >>> > >> | <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety/files;_ylc=X3oDMTJncnMyN281BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNmaWxlcwRzdGltZQMxMjM2ODYyMjQz
> >>> > >Files
> >>> > >> | <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety/photos;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNmpzN3NyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNwaG90BHN0aW1lAzEyMzY4NjIyNDM-
> >>> > >Photos
> >>> > >> | <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety/links;_ylc=X3oDMTJncjczMnJpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNsaW5rcwRzdGltZQMxMjM2ODYyMjQz
> >>> > >Links
> >>> > >> | <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety/database;_ylc=X3oDMTJkZWVwZTdtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNkYgRzdGltZQMxMjM2ODYyMjQz
> >>> > >Database
> >>> > >> | <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety/polls;_ylc=X3oDMTJnOTYyOGg3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNwb2xscwRzdGltZQMxMjM2ODYyMjQz
> >>> > >Polls
> >>> > >> | <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNnE4MjJ2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEyMzY4NjIyNDM-
> >>> > >Members
> >>> > >> | <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety/calendar;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNGlua283BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNjYWwEc3RpbWUDMTIzNjg2MjI0Mw--
> >>> > >> >Calendar
> >>> > >> We appreciate your contribution to Assam Society of America!
> >>> > >> MARKETPLACE
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> <'"
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14knm2nk0/M=493064.12016295.13271503.10835568/D=groups/S=1705098107:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1236869443/L=/B=UcSlGUPDhCo-/J=1236862243938827/K=2dENriFBxR44xNTfdz6yqg/A=5530388/R=0/SIG=11nuutlas/*http://explore.yahoo.com/groups/kraftm
> >>> > >From
> >>> > >> kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods
> >>> > >> <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNTJhOGJ2BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTIzNjg2MjI0Mw--
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety/join;_ylc=X3oDMTJnbTgxdDA3BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNzdG5ncwRzdGltZQMxMjM2ODYyMjQz
> >>> > >Change
> >>> > >> settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
> >>> > >> Change settings via email: <mailto:
> >>> AssamSociety-digest at yahoogroups.com
> >>> > ?subject=Email
> >>> > >> Delivery: Digest>Switch delivery to Daily Digest | <mailto:
> >>> > >> AssamSociety-traditional at yahoogroups.com?subject=Change<http://AssamSociety-traditional@yahoogroups.com/?subject=Change>
> <http://AssamSociety-traditional <http://assamsociety-traditional/>@
> yahoogroups.com/?subject=Change>
> >>> <http://AssamSociety-traditional <http://assamsociety-traditional/> <
> http://assamsociety-traditional/>@
> >>> yahoogroups.com/?subject=Change>
> >>> <http://AssamSociety-traditional <http://assamsociety-traditional/> <
> http://assamsociety-traditional/> <
> >>> http://assamsociety-traditional/>@
> >>>
> >> > yahoogroups.com/?subject=Change>Delivery Format:
> >>
> >>> > >> Traditional>Switch format to Traditional
> >>> > >> <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcmxwM3FxBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNocGYEc3RpbWUDMTIzNjg2MjI0Mw--
> >>> > >Visit
> >>> > >> Your Group | <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Yahoo! Groups
> >>> Terms
> >>> of
> >>> > >> Use | <mailto:AssamSociety-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com?subject=>
> >>> > >> Unsubscribe
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Recent Activity
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AssamSociety;_ylc=X3oDMTJmM3M5N3VpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNjA5NDk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA5ODEwNwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEyMzY4NjIyNDM-
> >>>
> >> > > >
> >>
> >>> > >> Visit Your Group
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Yahoo! Groups
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> <'"
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14hupt3s7/M=493064.12717544.13455789.8674578/D=groups/S=1705098107:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1236869443/L=/B=UsSlGUPDhCo-/J=1236862243938827/K=2dENriFBxR44xNTfdz6yqg/A=5658258/R=0/SIG=11ptgj47g/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/autoe
> >>> > >Auto
> >>> > >> Enthusiast Zone
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Discover Car Groups
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Auto Enthusiast Zone
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Yahoo! Groups
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> <'"
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14h1nlvgk/M=493064.12016263.12445670.8674578/D=groups/S=1705098107:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1236869443/L=/B=U8SlGUPDhCo-/J=1236862243938827/K=2dENriFBxR44xNTfdz6yqg/A=5522123/R=0/SIG=11kt0eu7c/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/domor
> >>> > >Do
> >>> > >> More For Cats Group
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Connect and share with
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> cat owners like you
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> John McEnroe
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> <
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14h7rp9qa/M=493064.12016283.12445687.8674578/D=groups/S=1705098107:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1236869443/L=/B=VMSlGUPDhCo-/J=1236862243938827/K=2dENriFBxR44xNTfdz6yqg/A=5202321/R=0/SIG=11aijbghb/*http://new.groups.yahoo.com/allbrangroup
> >>> > >on
> >>> > >> Yahoo! Groups
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Join him for the
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> 10 Day Challenge.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> .
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> __,_._,___
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="image004.jpg"
> >>> > >> Content-ID: <image004.jpg at 01C9A303.869FD1A0>
> >>> > >> X-Attachment-Id: 0.0.2
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="image005.jpg"
> >>> > >> Content-ID: <image005.jpg at 01C9A303.869FD1A0>
> >>> > >> X-Attachment-Id: 0.0.3
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="image003.jpg"
> >>> > >> Content-ID: <image003.jpg at 01C9A303.869FD1A0>
> >>> > >> X-Attachment-Id: 0.0.1
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >
> >>> > > _______________________________________________
> >>> > > assam mailing list
> >>> > > assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > assam mailing list
> >>> > assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > assam mailing list
> >>> > assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to
> >>> > http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > assam mailing list
> >>> > assam at assamnet.org
> >>> > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>> >
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> assam mailing list
> >>> assam at assamnet.org
> >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to
> >>> http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> assam mailing list
> >>> assam at assamnet.org
> >>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >> assam mailing list
> >> assam at assamnet.org
> >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > assam mailing list
> > assam at assamnet.org
> > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> assam mailing list
> assam at assamnet.org
> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
>
>
>
> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to
> http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
> _______________________________________________
> assam mailing list
> assam at assamnet.org
> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
>
More information about the Assam
mailing list