[Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam/3
Ram Sarangapani
assamrs at gmail.com
Sun Mar 22 21:14:12 PDT 2009
Of course, there isn't, C'da.
Even a Daniel wouldn't be able to get Assam out of this mess created jointly
by all parties involved - right down from the Center, the GOA, the
militants, and of course the people - let's not forget them.
But - my take is that even before we attempt to solve or (learn to live with
the B'deshis), we have to recognize some realities.
IMHO - problems like illegal immigration, corruption, Pro/Anti talk,
militant issues or whatever in Assam have no solutions (at least foreseeable
ones) - there are just too many darn vested interests that would want
nothing but to keep these issues burning and alive.
--Ram
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
> Still no answer to the question: What will YOU do?
>
> There is an ancient Oxomiya fokora that translated into English goes like
> : Put up or ---- up :-)!
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> At 10:09 PM -0500 3/22/09, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
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>> >It is not a question of right or wrong anymore. It is agreed that they
>> do
>> not have the right to encroach.
>>
>>> It is about the reality. How does Assam and the Assamese people survive
>>> in
>>>
>> the reality of massive settlement of Bangladeshis?
>>
>> That is true. But the first reality is whether (we) recognize that
>> B'deshis
>> coming into Assam :
>> (a) are illegal
>> (b) Should they be sent back?
>> (c) Are we comfortable having them around: because they only occupy char
>> and
>> useless land (where no Assamese will tread), and only take up jobs that no
>> Assamese will do?
>> (d) Should our "human' sensitivities go to the extent of displacing
>> Assamese
>> from their chars, to make sure our illegal guests are comfy?
>>
>> Are you suggesting that the settlers should be terrorized so that they go
>>>
>> back to Bangladesh?
>>
>> In fact, if Assamese are not careful, people may be terrorized, but it
>> will
>> probably be B'Deshis getting rid of Assamese from Assam.
>>
>> --Ram
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka <dilipdeka at yahoo.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> Let me butt in.
>>> It is not a question of right or wrong anymore. It is agreed that they
>>> do
>>> not have the right to encroach.
>>> It is about the reality. How does Assam and the Assamese people survive
>>> in
>>> the reality of massive settlement of Bangladeshis?
>>>
>> > Are you suggesting that the settlers should be terrorized so that they
>> go
>> > back to Bangladesh?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
>>> <assam at assamnet..org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:43:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam/3
>>>
>>> So, you are trying to justify that since bangladeshis are landless
>>> farmers,they have the the inherent right to cross the border and grab
>>> our
>>> land.Is there any other explanation? Do tell.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > At 9:21 PM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Here is what you wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > *** Really? Omigosh!!!
>>> >
>>> > But wait--does that mean I made the argument attributed to me:
>>> >
>>> > " the state of Assam is
>>> >> obligated to allow them to move freely across the border and provide
>>> them
>>> >> with the land for cultivation. ?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > *** I was explaining WHY B'deshis leave their own homeland to
>>> unwelcome
>>> > places, like Assam. It was NOT I who asked the question
>>> >
>>> > ",what does Assam have so much in abundance to render her so
>>> generous?"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Does that ring a bell?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> "" B'deshis are overcrowded. Most of them are agrarian, subsistence
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> farmers. To survive they need land. But not enough of it is there
>>> for
>>>
>> > >>>> everyone. So they come into Assam and the contiguous regions,
>> because
>>
>>> >>>> there
>>> >>>> still is public land where they can eke out a living. Often it is
>>> land
>>> >>>> others won't settle in, like the 'chars', or other perennial flood
>>> >>>> plains.
>>> >>>> OR inaccessible mountains. Whatever."
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >> KJD
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>> *** Where or when did I make that statement is the big question.
>>> Perhaps
>>> >>> you will point that out!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *** Anyway, we are waiting with bated breath to hear how you
>>> expect
>>> the
>>> >>> problem to be resolved :-).
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> At 7:41 PM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Wunderbar! Congratulation! You have just hammered out a permanent
>>> >>>> solution
>>> >>>> to this vexing problem.Full marks for the explanation.Since,most
>>> >>>>
>>> >>> >> Bangaladeshis are rural-based landless farmers,the state of
>>> Assam
>>>
>> > is
>>
>>> >>
>>> >>> obligated to allow them to move freely across the border and
>>> provide
>>> >>>> them
>>> >>>>
>>> >>> >> with the land for cultivation.
>>> >>
>>> >>> Next step----do away with the Immigration service from the face of
>>> this
>>> >>>> earth!!
>>> >>>> I am certainly left speechless.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Chan Mahanta <
>>> cmahanta at charter.net>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> At 4:43 PM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >> T he theory of " privation of Bangadeshis" propounded by you
>>> really
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>> tops
>>> >>>> >> my
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> hilarity chart.Or was it an attempt on your part to slip a levity
>>> into
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>> discussion!
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> **** Glad I could provide something where you could find humor.
>>> The
>>> >>>>> tenor
>>> >>>>> was getting awfully strident.
>>> >>>>> But I was entirely serious. People do not stream into unwelcome
>>> >>>>> environments unless there is an overwhelming need. B'deshis are
>>> >>>>> overcrowded. Most of them are agrarian, subsistence farmers. To
>>> >>>>> survive
>>> >>>>> they
>>> >>>>> need land. But not enough of it is there for everyone. So they
>>> come
>>> >>>>> into
>>> >>>>> Assam and the contiguous regions, because there still is public
>>> land
>>> >>>>> where
>>> >>>>> they can eke out a living. Often it is land others won't settle
>>> in,
>>> >>>>> like
>>> >>>>> the
>>> >>>>> 'chars', or other perennial flood plains. OR inaccessible
>>> mountains.
>>> >>>>> Whatever.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> B'deshi privation is not a THEORY. It is a fact. And I won't
>>> make
>>> fun
>>> >>>>> of
>>> >>>>> human beings struggling to survive, even though they may not be
>>> my
>>> >>>>> people.
>>> >>>>> My first and foremost identity is the human one, like it should
>>> be
>>> for
>>> >>>>> all
>>> >>>>> of us. The world would be a better place when it is so.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >The old saying ' an enemy within home is more treacherous and
>>> >>>>> pernicious
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> than the one without" can be applied appropiately to our
>>> present-day
>>> >>>>>> politicians.Why then blame others?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> **** OK, fair enough. So how are you planning or hoping to get
>>> rid
>>> of
>>> >>>>> the
>>> >>>>> enemy -within and replace it with whom you can find common cause?
>>> >>>>> Where
>>> >>>>> does
>>> >>>>> the enemy-within gets its power from?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> **** I looked for the solution, recommendations. But there was
>>> none.
>>> >>>>> Is
>>> >>>>> it
>>> >>>>> because you cannot imagine it or do you want somebody else to
>>> find
>>> it
>>> >>>>> for
>>> >>>>> you :-)?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Why on earth should anyone expect an Assamese to burn midnight
>>> oil
>>> >>>>> thinking
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> about " privation of Bangadeshis",while he himself deals with
>>> the
>>> >>>>>> human
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> vagaries for years?
>>> >>
>>> >>> What can one expect from the state govt.whose very chief minister (
>>> >>>>>> read
>>> >>>>>> Tarun Gogoi ) once said that the Congress is opposed to the
>>> harassing
>>> >>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>> genuine Indian citizens in the name of scrapping the IMDT Act,
>>> and
>>>
>> > >>>>>> that
>>
>>> >>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>> detection of foreigners should not be left to the whims of
>>> police
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> >> officers.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Quite right,Mr.Chief minister-it should be left to the
>>> machinations
>>> of
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> vote-bank politicians!!! Yet, after a couple of decades,the apex
>>> >>>>>> court
>>> >>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>> India had flushed that piece of Black legislation down the
>>> commode
>>> >>>>>> because
>>> >>>>>> it was not Constitutional.
>>> >>>>>> The old saying ' an enemy within home is more treacherous and
>>> >>>>>> pernicious
>>> >>>>>> than the one without" can be applied appropiately to our
>>> present-day
>>> >>>>>> politicians.Why then blame others?
>>> >>>>>> Have the Americans been able to stem the flow illegal
>>> immigrants?
>>> >>>>>> No,they
>>> >>>>>> haven't.But they,unlike us,don't live in a cloud-cuckoo-
>>> land.The
>>> >>>>>> Americans
>>>
>> > >>>>>> are not sitting idly thinking that the problem will vamoose by
>>
>>> itself
>>> >>>>>> one
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> >> fine day.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> WHERE ARE RAJEN KOKAIDEW/SALEH KOKADEW/SARANGAPANI? WHAT'S YOUR
>>> TAKE
>>> ON
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> THIS?
>>> >>>>>> Kamal
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Chan Mahanta <
>>> cmahanta at charter.net>
>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> At 9:31 AM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> One should stuff that " privation of Bangladeshis" argument
>>> where
>>> >>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> sun
>>> >>>>>>>> does not shine.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> *** OK , so it be placed! Question then would be if they come
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>> Assam
>>> >>>>>>> for its generosity? Is that it?
>>> >>>>>>> Is it a believable proposition? I do realize however that it
>>> is
>>> a
>>> >>>>>>> hyperbole train that has gone a couple of stations too far :-).
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I don't yet comprehend the issue at work here.One,what is the
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> meaning of "illegal"?I had thought that it was something not
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> sanctioned
>>> >>>>>>>> by
>>> >>>>>>>> the laws of any sovereign state.Two,are we supposed to sit
>>> back
>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>> twiddle
>>> >>>>>>>> our thumbs while the illegals outnumber us?
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> *** No that is not the ONLY interpretation of the notion I put
>>> >>>>>>> forth.
>>> >>>>>>> But
>>> >>>>>>> let us tackle the question:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> "--are we supposed to sit back and twiddle our thumbs while the
>>> >>>>>>> illegals
>>> >>>>>>> outnumber us? "
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Since I don't have a neat little answer like 'round them up and
>>> >>>>>>> kick-them
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> > out' or anything akin to that, what IS your solution? What do
>>> you
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> propose
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> or recommend be done? And WHY is it not being done the way you
>>> see
>>> as
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>> right way ? Or WHO do you think or expect WILL do it your way?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> To day,my mother,brother and I
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> occupy a house in a plot of land.Tomorrow,if Martians took over
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> >> remaining part of the land,we will be living in that
>>> compressed
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> space.Why
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> should anyone allow that to happen?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> *** Very touching argument no doubt. Even though I would like
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>> pretend
>>> >>>>>>> to be left speechless, dare I mention that the law of the land
>>> ought
>>> >>>>>>> not
>>> >>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>> allow such trespass and confiscation of your ancestral
>>> property?
>>> Or
>>> >>>>>>> is
>>> >>>>>>> that
>>> >>>>>>> too much to ask from the mighty Indian democracy as practised
>>> by
>>> its
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>>>> minions
>>> >>
>>> >>> in Assam?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Obviously the problem is a tad bit more complicated, isn't it?
>>> So
>>> >>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>> question the thinking person must raise is HOW to control the
>>> >>>>>>> influx,
>>> >>>>>>> so
>>>
>> > >>>>>>> that the immigrants cannot take over the land, or become part
>> of
>>
>>> >>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>> voting
>>> >>>>>>> citizenry, while still being able to come and perform seasonal
>>> or
>>> >>>>>>> otherwise
>>> >>>>>>> limited time span services for which there IS a DEMAND? For IF
>>> there
>>> >>>>>>> was
>>> >>>>>>> no
>>> >>>>>>> such demand, the rate of migration would not be as strong.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Indian govt. knows it too, as do its minions in Assam. But WHAT
>>> have
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>>>> they
>>> >>
>>> >>> done about it? Can anyone in his right mind even hold out a
>>> remote
>>> >>>>>>> hope
>>> >>>>>>> they will, if they had not lifted a finger in all these
>>> decades?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> That is WHY Assam needs independence--or at least a full
>>> autonomy,
>>> >>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>> put
>>> >>>>>>> in place a SUSTAINABLE system that will stanch the flow, even
>>> >>>>>>> though
>>>
>> > >>>>>>> we
>>
>>> >>>>>>> know it cannot be entirely stopped.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Of course, there must be some checks and balances.It is the
>>> bounden
>>> >>>>>>> duty
>>> >>>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> the state govt.to ferret out such infiltrators.If ration cards
>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> voters
>>> >>>>>>>> identity cards can be issued to those illegal aliens to enrich
>>> >>>>>>>> their
>>> >>>>>>>> vote-bank,why can't they issue multi-purpose identity cards
>>> >>>>>>>> especially
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> in
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>> the border regions?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Assam is already overpopulated,can she afford added burdens ?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> *** Why don't you tell us ? And see above.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> By the way,the Americans had the harshest immigration policy
>>> till
>>> >>>>>>> 1962.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> *** And has it stemmed the influx of illegal immigrants?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Chan Mahanta <
>>> cmahanta at charter.net
>>> >>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> At 8:09 PM -0500 3/21/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> To compare Assam with the USA as far as immigration issue is
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> concerned,will
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> be as good as comparing apples with oysters..
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Not at all!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> The failure on part of the USA
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> to curb the influx of illegals does not mean that Assam
>>> should
>>> >>>>>>>>> allow
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Bangladeshis to cross the border freely till the indigenous
>>> people
>>> >>>>>>>>>> are
>>> >>>>>>>>>> completely outnumbered.If the vast, resourceful and thinly
>>> >>>>>>>>>> populated
>>> >>>>>>>>>> countries like the USA and Australia can have stringent
>>> >>>>>>>>>> immigration
>>> >>>>>>>>>> laws,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Of course they can and they do have stringent
>>> immigration
>>> >>>>>>>>>> laws.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> But
>>> >>>>>>>>> then why is there such a huge illegal immigration problem in
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>> USA?
>>> >>>>>>>>> Australia is different--the oceans surrounding it makes
>>> illegal
>>> >>>>>>>>> border
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> > crossing difficult .
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> what does Assam have so much in abundance to render her so
>>> >>>>>>>>> generous?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> **** It is not about Assam's abundance but B'Desh's
>>> privation.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> That
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> simple.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Assam and the contiguous
>>> >>>>>>>>> region still has land and that is a huge incentive to migrate
>>> for
>>> >>>>>>>>> those
>>> >>>>>>>>> who
>>> >>>>>>>>> have none.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> There must be checks and balances.
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> **** Tell us about it. So how has India performed on
>>> delivering
>>> >>>>>>>>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> those
>>> >>>>>>>>> checks and balances so far?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Dilip and Dil Deka <
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> dilipdeka at yahoo.com
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> For whatever it is worth, this letter from Chandan Mahanta
>>> has
>>> my
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> support..
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have been trying to convey the same message over the
>>> years.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Holding onto the guns with a sullen face
>>> and
>>> >> not talking
>>> >>
>>> >>> to
>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> anyone
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> including the people in Assam will not result in a
>>> solution.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Persistent
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> discussion and deliberation are the only viable paths.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> * It is impossible to seal a border where natural
>>> barriers
>>> >>>>>>>>> do
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> not
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> exist. Assam will have to learn to live with the Bangladeshi
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> even if
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> Assam becomes autonomous or a sovereign country.
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from
>>> around
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> world
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> assam at assamnet.org>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: ulfa.protalk at gmail.com
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:34:21 AM
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of
>>> Assam/3
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> During the past several years, we here in assamnet debated
>>> over
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> over again, your movement and your struggles for an
>>> independent
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Assam. Over the years it became abundantly clear to me
>>> that
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> most
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> our friends here in this forum, in spite of their training,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> education
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and accomplishments, are quite uninformed about the
>>> reasons
>>> for
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> your
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> taking to arms in pursuit of independence for Assam.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >We the pro-talk group
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >temporarily suspending the armed struggle & strongly
>>> advocating
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> demand
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >democratic process to bring a peaceful and political
>>> solution
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >Assam-India's conflict and clashes between the ethnic
>>> groups
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> build
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>> up
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> >a peaceful and prosperous Assam along with a united powerful
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> India.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **** Here it is important for you to explain why and how
>>> Indian
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> democracy has not performed , how your successive
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 'democratically'
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> elected governments were neither responsive nor able to
>>> respond
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> your needs that ultimately led you to give up on the
>>> promise
>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Indian democracy and finally, out of desperation , led to
>>> your
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to arms.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why it is important to explain is that MOST of our people
>>> are
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ignorant of these issues. The idea is to generate
>>> awareness
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> among
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>> > the population and to mobilize INFORMED public opinion.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> I realize it is a lot of work. But there is no short-cut to
>>> it.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> **** You wrote about "temporarily suspending the armed
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> struggle--".
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Does that mean that you might
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> return to armed struggle? If so, should you not also
>>> explain
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> under
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> what circumstances you may consider resorting to armed
>>> struggle?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That should send a signal to GoI and GoA that you are
>>> serious
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> about
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> your wish to attempt to forge a political solution, but if
>>> it
>>> is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > frustrated or resisted by the governments in power, you
>>> may
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> return to the armed struggle, which, by all indications the
>>> >>>>>>>>>> people
>>> >>>>>>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Assam ( the thinking ones anyway) do not want.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not that I am one who believes in threatening anyone as a
>>> good
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> way
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> start a negotiation for attaining a political solution to a
>>> long
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> enduring conflict. But considering the history of your
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> adversaries'
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sincerity and their ability or willingness to effect
>>> political
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> administrative reforms that are direly needed in Assam and
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> surrounding region, you have little leverage left
>>> to
>>> >> engage them
>>> >>
>>> >>> in
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> serious dialogue, other than a concern for a resumption of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> violence,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> however feeble now.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> The only hope for something positive and constructive will be
>>> an
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> outpouring of public opinion. That could be effected if you
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> clearly
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> explain what you see as the problems and how they could be
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> resolved
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> by what you propose.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>
>>> >>> As you have already noticed right in this forum, there will be
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> those
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> who will opposed anything that they perceive as reducing
>>> Indian
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> controls over Assam's future, including contradicting
>>> their
>>> own
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> loudly proclaimed and roundly repeated positions. And they
>>> are
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> just
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the tips of the icebergs of the establishment in
>>> Assam,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> something you
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> must be well aware of.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Therefore it is of critical importance for you to :
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A: Clearly spell out what you see as problems, item by
>>> item.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> B: Explain how what you propose will help resolve them.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> You must do so in simple language, understandable by ordinary
>>> people
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> ( avoid the jargon of professionals). And then go
>>> disseminate
>>> it
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> among the populace. Ultimately it is a matter of persuasion.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One thing you must be realistic about is the issue of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bangladeshis
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Assam: It is not something you, or your ex-comrades-in-arms
>>> who
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> are
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> still fighting or the government of Assam, never mind who
>>> is
>>> in
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> power
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> on a given day; the might of the Indian armed forces or
>>> even
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> entire population of Assam unified to resist it will be
>>> able
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> eradicate. It is much too complex an issue, the like of
>>> which
>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> even
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the most powerful nation on earth, the USA, has not been
>>> able
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> resolve. Ultimately we cannot and must not forget that as
>>> human
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> beings, we cannot just wish those others away who happen to
>>> be
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> different from us but who want to live too, even if by
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> encroaching
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>> land whose boundaries we created or imagined.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> If you dwell on this as the primary focus of your aims for
>>> Assam,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> you
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> are doomed at the outset. I realize it is an easy issue to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> generate
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> public ire with, but it is a recipe for sure failure.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You must focus on issues that are very important but which
>>>
>> > have
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> achievable solutions..
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to call on me if I can be of any assistance. I am
>>> no
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> expert, but I have tried to understand what has been going
>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> what led you to take up arms and what can be done now to
>>> end
>>> it.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> More later..
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>> Chandan Mahanta
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> At 10:59 AM +0530 3/7/09, ULFA Pro-talk wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >Dear Friends,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >In the beginning, we convey our heartiest revolutionary
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> greetings
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >members of Assamnet. We, the members of ULFA ( Pro-talk )
>>> held
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> meeting
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >15th December'2008 and unanimously agreed to give up the
>>> demand
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >sovereign state of Assam and demand for full autonomy
>>> within
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> framework
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >of Indian constitution, through a democratic and
>>> non-violent
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >welcome discussion from all the Assamese people residing
>>> across
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>
>>> >>> globe
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >the demand for Full Autonomy of Assam under the framework
>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Indian
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >constitution. We are attaching herewith the 'Charter of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Demands'
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> submitted
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >to the Government of Indi. Also, we are attaching our
>>> Menifesto
>>> >>>>>>>>>> for
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >information of all members of Assamnet. Please log on to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >www.sandhikhyan.orgfor updates.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >Looking forward for constructive discussion and
>>> petronisation
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>
>>> >>> burning
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >issues of Assam from all the members of Assamnet.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >Regards,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >Jiten Dutta
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >Gen. Secy
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >ULFA (Protalk)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >**
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >**
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >*MANIFESTO*
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >(ULFA PRO-TALK)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >Historically and socially, Assam have no affinity with
>>> India
>>> &
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >administratively and geographically apart, ethnically
>>> distinct
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >neglect, deprivation and apathy rowards Assam and Assamese
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >since 15thAugust 1947 to till to date, supports the
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> justification
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >independent
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >Assam. We joined the United Liberation Front of Assam to
>>> >>>>>>>>> liberate
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Assam
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> from
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >India. After 29 years of our struggle we have painfully
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> observed
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> that
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> top
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >leaders of ULFA instead of fighting for desired goals,
>>> failed
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> safeguard
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> >the identity and the existence of indigenous people,
>>> >>>>>> overlooking or
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> ignoring
>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> >the presence of large number of illegal immigrants ( who
>>> will
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> become
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >majority in next 20 years and they will conspire to merge
>>> with
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bangladesh
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >through a referendum ) and involved in activities by
>>> getting
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> distracted
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> from
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> >revolutionaries ideologies. Therefore, we the pro-talk ULFA
>>> group
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> looking
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >at the (a) global political and economic situation (b)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> continuous
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> threat
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >from the neighbouring countries surrounding Assam (c)
>>> possible
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> terrorist
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >attacks in Assam by anti-Indian religious and
>>> fundamentalist
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> groups
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> (d)
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >age-old religious and cultural ties with India; have
>>> adopted a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> resolution
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >favour of Full Regional Autonomy instead of independent
>>> Assam
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> as
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> pragmatic
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>> >approach.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >During the process of making the Constitution of India a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> resolution
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> was
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >adopted to make India a federal one by giving regional
>>> autonomy
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> states
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >but unfortunately in the subsequent period it was made a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> centralized
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> one,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >resulting in the smaller states and the small indigenous
>>> groups
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> having
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >specific characteristics and living with dignity have
>>> suffered
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hands
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >of big ethnic groups and states by way of aggression and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> exploitation.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>> The
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> >fallout is resentment, hostility and secessionism. We the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pro-talk
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> group
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >temporarily suspending the armed struggle & strongly
>>> advocating
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> demand
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >democratic process to bring a peaceful and political
>>> solution
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >Assam-India's conflict and clashes between the ethnic
>>> groups
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>
>>> >>> build
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> up
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >a peaceful and prosperous Assam along with a united
>>> powerful
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> India.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >**
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >*Alternate to Independence*
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >A full regional autonomy by enjoying all the residual
>>> powers
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> excepting
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > defense,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >external affaires, communications and print mint ( by
>>> making
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> vital
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >to the existing Constitution of India ) to build up a real
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> federal
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> structure
>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >by making vital changes to the infrastructure and
>>
>>> reorganizing
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>
>>> >>> states
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >with a provision for equal rights and representation to
>>> all
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> indigenous
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >ethnic groups. Similarly, in order to safeguard the
>>> identity
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> existence
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >of indigenous and ethnic groups, the federal
>>> administrative
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> framework
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> should
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >be used in Assam..
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >*Proposed administrative structure of Assam*
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >To create an upper house, representing equally by all the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> indigenous
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >ethnic groups. Besides all indigenous people, other people
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> those
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> who
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> have
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >already settled in Assam permanently as for example
>>> Bengalis,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Biharis,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >Marwaris, Punjabis, Nepalis and tea-tribes will be
>>> considered
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> as
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >groups and will enjoy equal representations.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > The upper house will be free to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> discuss,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> determine
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >and taking decisions on the proposed legislations and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> development
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> schemes
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >Assam in the best interest of the people of Assam. The
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> objective
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> principle
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >of the house is to safeguard the interests of indigenous
>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > people.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > 1. The Upper House will be constituted selecting and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> electing
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> number
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > representatives from all ethnic groups. Central and
>>> State
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> governments
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > not be having the power and rights to dissolve the
>>> house.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Only
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > electorates through referendum shall have the right to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> reject
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> or
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> dissolve
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > the house.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > 2. Small ethnic groups will be having the rights to
>>> select
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > representatives through their socially
>>> recognized
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> institutions
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > > organizations and the major ethnic groups will elect
>>> their
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> representatives
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > through elections.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > 3. All the ethnic groups shall have the right to
>>> recall
>>> or
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> replace
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> their
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> > representatives.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> > 4. The representatives of the house will elect a leader
>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> deputy
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > leader. Rotation wise every ethnic group will elect a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> speaker
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>> a
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> deputy
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > speaker of the house and their term will be for a
>>> period
>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> year.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > 5. The responsibilities of the representatives of
>>> upper
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> house
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> be
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > service- oriented nature. There shall be no provisions
>>> for
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> salary
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > pensions but expenses relating to maintenance,
>>> medical,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> traveling
>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > allowances, office and its maintenance and its
>> security
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> shall
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> be
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> borne
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> by
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> > the state government.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >*The Rights and Powers of Upper House *
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > 1. Right to discuss, analyze and taking decisions on
>>> all
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> proposed
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> laws
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > and legislations and developmental schemes of Assam by
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ascertaining
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> whether
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > it is in the best interest of Assam or not and will be
>>>
>> > free
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> amend
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> or
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > reject such laws, legislations and schemes and such
>>> actions
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> be
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > disapproved by the concerned governments.
>>> >>
>>> >>> > 2. The main objective of upper house is to safeguard the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> existence
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > development of all the indigenous and ethnic groups
>>> and
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> examine
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > proper implementations of all the laws, legislations
>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> developmental
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > schemes.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > 3. It will be statutory on the part of the concerned
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> governments
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> send
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > the copies relating to the approval and implementation
>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> all
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> laws,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > legislations and developmental schemes to the upper
>>> house.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > 4. Rights to amend , settle the matters relating to
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> disputes
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > implementation of laws, legislations, developmental
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> schemes,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > conflicts, boundary and other disputes with the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> neighbouring
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> north-eastern
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > states on the strength of majority support of the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> representatives.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> shall
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > be obligatory on the part of the concerned governments
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> accept
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> such
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > amendments and advices and to implement the same
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >*An administrative system based on Equal Rights, Status,
>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Development
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >their own land for indigenous and ethnic people.*
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >In the proposed regional autonomous administration, the
>>> power
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> be
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >de-centralized by creating district councils and by
>>> delegating
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> powers
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >grass root levels. There will be zonal and village
>>> councils
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> under
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> district
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >councils.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > District councils will be under the complete control of
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> major
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >indigenous people or groups and the other small indigenous
>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> groups
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >will be able to assert their rights and fulfillment of
>>> their
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> aspirations
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >through the zonal and village councils. While the
>>> implementing
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> these
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >provisions a situation may warrant to reorganize some
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> districts.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >There will be no hindrances to major indigenous people or
>>> group
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> form
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >district councils, having a definite area of their own but
>>> the
>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> splintered
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >indigenous and ethnic groups will be able to assert their
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> rights
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> fulfill
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >their aspirations through zonal and village councils.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >*Proposed Format of Administrative Structure Of Indigenous
>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ethnic
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >People.*
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> >* *
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >*STATE GOVERNMENT*
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >*DISTRICT COUNCIL*
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>> >* *
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >*ZONAL COUNCIL*
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >*VILLAGE COUNCIL*
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >*Creation of Ethnically based Administrative System and
>>> its
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rights
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> > >Powers*
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > 1. In every 5 years people will form districts, zonal
>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> village
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > councils through elections.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > 2. Every district council will be reserved for the
>>> major
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> indigenous
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > groups and the zonal and the village councils will be
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> reserved
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>> the
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> basis
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > of the population composition of indigenous and ethnic
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> people
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> from
>>> >>
>>> >>> their
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > definite areas.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > 3. Government shall implement all the schemes through
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> district
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> councils
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > and similarly district council through zonal councils
>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> zonal
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > councils
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > through village councils.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > 4. If a situation warrants, the state governments with
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> approval
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> from
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > upper house will be free to dissolve the district
>>> council.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > 5. District councils will collect minimum revenue from
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> land,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > establishments and other natural resources, market and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> finished
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> products
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> > through zonal and village councils of their areas..
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>
>> ...
>
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