[Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam/3
Ram Sarangapani
assamrs at gmail.com
Sun Mar 22 21:22:04 PDT 2009
>*** You should ask the question of them illegals. If you can't find any
B-deshis in Assam, try your own backyard, both for Indian >illegals as well
as Latinos.
I did - all the illegals from our backyard have gone to B'desh for an
intense, 'how-to-do-it-right, and become-a-montri-in-host-country, crash
course in Bangladesh. Also, when you say "Indian Illegals", you are, of
course, including Indians, Pakis, B'deshis, Sri Lankans, and maybe even
Indians from East Africa/Carrinean
--Ram
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
> No one wants to make fun of people in poverty, or trying to eke out
>> a living - but can't they do it in their own country?
>>
>
>
> *** You should ask the question of them illegals. If you can't find any
> B-deshis in Assam, try your own backyard, both for Indian illegals as well
> as Latinos.
>
>
> Mine was a response to Kamal's question of WHY they go to Assam. Do you
> have a better explanation? If you do, you ought to speak out, just as Kamal
> should. And if you don't, then --- well I won't say it, but you know what I
> allude to :-).
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 9:47 PM -0500 3/22/09, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>
>> If I may butt in. I'am having a tough time in keeping up - wasn't there
>> from
>> the begining..... but will give it a shot.
>>
>> But what is this C'da?
>>
>> But I was entirely serious. People do not stream into unwelcome
>>>
>> environments unless there is an overwhelming need. B'deshis are
>> overcrowded. >Most of them are agrarian, subsistence farmers. To survive
>> they need land. But not enough of it is there for everyone. So they come
>> into Assam and the >contiguous regions, because there still is public land
>> where they can eke out a living. *Often it is land others won't settle in,
>> like the 'chars', or other >perennial flood plains. OR inaccessible
>> mountains.* Whatever.
>>
>>> B'deshi privation is not a THEORY. It is a fact. And I won't make fun of
>>>
>> human beings struggling to survive, even though they may not be my people.
>> *My
>>
>>> first and foremost identity is the human one, like it should be for all
>>> of
>>>
>> us. The world would be a better place when it is so.*
>>
>>
>> That last line seems to indicate that you have that soft corner for them
>> B'deshis (illegal or not). So, in essence, KJD is not far off the mark in
>> his conclusions. Earlier on, see highlights - you seem to make a nice
>> argument for their presence into Assam.
>>
>> If Assam had plenty, and was overflowing with riches, we could have been
>> generous. But B'deshis !. Jeez - when India bailed them out in 1971, they,
>> very promptly turned around started blaming India for all their ills.
>> Today,
>> B'desh is more akin, and more friendly to Pakistan, than it is to India -
>> and the only export they have is their poverty-ridden masses across the
>> border. No one wants to make fun of people in poverty, or trying to eke
>> out
>> a living - but can't they do it in their own country?
>>
>> --Ram
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> At 9:21 PM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is what you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> *** Really? Omigosh!!!
>>>
>>> But wait--does that mean I made the argument attributed to me:
>>>
>>> " the state of Assam is
>>>
>>>> obligated to allow them to move freely across the border and provide
>>>> them
>>>> with the land for cultivation. ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> *** I was explaining WHY B'deshis leave their own homeland to unwelcome
>>> places, like Assam. It was NOT I who asked the question
>>>
>>> ",what does Assam have so much in abundance to render her so generous?"
>>>
>>>
>>> Does that ring a bell?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "" B'deshis are overcrowded. Most of them are agrarian, subsistence
>>>>>
>>>>> farmers. To survive they need land. But not enough of it is there for
>>>>>> everyone. So they come into Assam and the contiguous regions, because
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> still is public land where they can eke out a living. Often it is
>>>>>> land
>>>>>> others won't settle in, like the 'chars', or other perennial flood
>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> plains.
>>
>>> OR inaccessible mountains. Whatever."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> KJD
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *** Where or when did I make that statement is the big question.
>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>> you will point that out!
>>>>>
>>>>> *** Anyway, we are waiting with bated breath to hear how you expect
>>>>> the
>>>>> problem to be resolved :-).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 7:41 PM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Wunderbar! Congratulation! You have just hammered out a permanent
>>>>>
>>>>>> solution
>>>>>> to this vexing problem.Full marks for the explanation.Since,most
>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>
>>> >> Bangaladeshis are rural-based landless farmers,the state of Assam
>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> obligated to allow them to move freely across the border and provide
>>>>>
>>>>>> them
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> with the land for cultivation.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Next step----do away with the Immigration service from the face of this
>>>>>
>>>>>> earth!!
>>>>>> I am certainly left speechless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 4:43 PM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> T he theory of " privation of Bangadeshis" propounded by you
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tops
>>>>>> >> my
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hilarity chart.Or was it an attempt on your part to slip a levity
>>>>>> into
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> discussion!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **** Glad I could provide something where you could find humor.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> tenor
>>>>>>> was getting awfully strident.
>>>>>>> But I was entirely serious. People do not stream into unwelcome
>>>>>>> environments unless there is an overwhelming need. B'deshis are
>>>>>>> overcrowded. Most of them are agrarian, subsistence farmers. To
>>>>>>> survive
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> need land. But not enough of it is there for everyone. So they come
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> Assam and the contiguous regions, because there still is public land
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> they can eke out a living. Often it is land others won't settle in,
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> 'chars', or other perennial flood plains. OR inaccessible mountains.
>>>>>>> Whatever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> B'deshi privation is not a THEORY. It is a fact. And I won't make
>>>>>>> fun
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> human beings struggling to survive, even though they may not be my
>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>> My first and foremost identity is the human one, like it should be
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> of us. The world would be a better place when it is so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >The old saying ' an enemy within home is more treacherous and
>>>>>>> pernicious
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> than the one without" can be applied appropiately to our present-day
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> politicians.Why then blame others?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **** OK, fair enough. So how are you planning or hoping to get rid
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> enemy -within and replace it with whom you can find common cause?
>>>>>>> Where
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> the enemy-within gets its power from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **** I looked for the solution, recommendations. But there was none.
>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> because you cannot imagine it or do you want somebody else to find
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> you :-)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why on earth should anyone expect an Assamese to burn midnight oil
>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> about " privation of Bangadeshis",while he himself deals with the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> human
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> vagaries for years?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> What can one expect from the state govt.whose very chief minister (
>>>>>
>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>> Tarun Gogoi ) once said that the Congress is opposed to the
>>>>>>>> harassing
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> genuine Indian citizens in the name of scrapping the IMDT Act, and
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> detection of foreigners should not be left to the whims of police
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> officers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quite right,Mr.Chief minister-it should be left to the machinations
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vote-bank politicians!!! Yet, after a couple of decades,the apex
>>>>>>>> court
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> India had flushed that piece of Black legislation down the commode
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> it was not Constitutional.
>>>>>>>> The old saying ' an enemy within home is more treacherous and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> pernicious
>>
>>> than the one without" can be applied appropiately to our present-day
>>>>>>>> politicians.Why then blame others?
>>>>>>>> Have the Americans been able to stem the flow illegal immigrants?
>>>>>>>> No,they
>>>>>>>> haven't.But they,unlike us,don't live in a cloud-cuckoo- land.The
>>>>>>>> Americans
>>>>>>>> are not sitting idly thinking that the problem will vamoose by
>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> fine day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHERE ARE RAJEN KOKAIDEW/SALEH KOKADEW/SARANGAPANI? WHAT'S YOUR TAKE
>>>>>> ON
>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>
>>> THIS?
>>>>>>>> Kamal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Chan Mahanta <
>>>>>>>> cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 9:31 AM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One should stuff that " privation of Bangladeshis" argument where
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sun
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> does not shine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *** OK , so it be placed! Question then would be if they come
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> Assam
>>>>>>>>> for its generosity? Is that it?
>>>>>>>>> Is it a believable proposition? I do realize however that it is
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> hyperbole train that has gone a couple of stations too far :-).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't yet comprehend the issue at work here.One,what is the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> meaning of "illegal"?I had thought that it was something not
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sanctioned
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> the laws of any sovereign state.Two,are we supposed to sit back
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> twiddle
>>>>>>>>>> our thumbs while the illegals outnumber us?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *** No that is not the ONLY interpretation of the notion I put
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> forth.
>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>> let us tackle the question:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "--are we supposed to sit back and twiddle our thumbs while the
>>>>>>>>> illegals
>>>>>>>>> outnumber us? "
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since I don't have a neat little answer like 'round them up and
>>>>>>>>> kick-them
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > out' or anything akin to that, what IS your solution? What do
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> propose
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or recommend be done? And WHY is it not being done the way you see
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> right way ? Or WHO do you think or expect WILL do it your way?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To day,my mother,brother and I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> occupy a house in a plot of land.Tomorrow,if Martians took over
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >> remaining part of the land,we will be living in that
>>>>>>>>>> compressed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> space.Why
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> should anyone allow that to happen?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *** Very touching argument no doubt. Even though I would like to
>>>>>>>>> pretend
>>>>>>>>> to be left speechless, dare I mention that the law of the land
>>>>>>>>> ought
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> allow such trespass and confiscation of your ancestral property?
>>>>>>>>> Or
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> too much to ask from the mighty Indian democracy as practised by
>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> minions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> in Assam?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Obviously the problem is a tad bit more complicated, isn't it? So
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> question the thinking person must raise is HOW to control the
>>>>>>>>> influx,
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> that the immigrants cannot take over the land, or become part of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> voting
>>>>>>>>> citizenry, while still being able to come and perform seasonal or
>>>>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>>>>> limited time span services for which there IS a DEMAND? For IF
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> such demand, the rate of migration would not be as strong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Indian govt. knows it too, as do its minions in Assam. But WHAT
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> they
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> done about it? Can anyone in his right mind even hold out a remote
>>>>>
>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>> they will, if they had not lifted a finger in all these decades?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is WHY Assam needs independence--or at least a full autonomy,
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>> in place a SUSTAINABLE system that will stanch the flow, even
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> though
>>
>>> we
>>>>>>>>> know it cannot be entirely stopped.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course, there must be some checks and balances.It is the
>>>>>>>>> bounden
>>>>>>>>> duty
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the state govt.to ferret out such infiltrators.If ration cards
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> voters
>>>>>>>>>> identity cards can be issued to those illegal aliens to enrich
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> vote-bank,why can't they issue multi-purpose identity cards
>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>
>>> >>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the border regions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Assam is already overpopulated,can she afford added burdens ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *** Why don't you tell us ? And see above.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By the way,the Americans had the harshest immigration policy till
>>>>>>>>> 1962.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *** And has it stemmed the influx of illegal immigrants?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Chan Mahanta <
>>>>>>>>> cmahanta at charter.net
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At 8:09 PM -0500 3/21/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To compare Assam with the USA as far as immigration issue is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> concerned,will
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> be as good as comparing apples with oysters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *** Not at all!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The failure on part of the USA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to curb the influx of illegals does not mean that Assam should
>>>>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bangladeshis to cross the border freely till the indigenous
>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> completely outnumbered.If the vast, resourceful and thinly
>>>>>>>>>>>> populated
>>>>>>>>>>>> countries like the USA and Australia can have stringent
>>>>>>>>>>>> immigration
>>>>>>>>>>>> laws,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *** Of course they can and they do have stringent immigration
>>>>>>>>>>>> laws.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>> then why is there such a huge illegal immigration problem in the
>>>>>>>>>>> USA?
>>>>>>>>>>> Australia is different--the oceans surrounding it makes illegal
>>>>>>>>>>> border
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > crossing difficult .
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> what does Assam have so much in abundance to render her so
>>>>>>>>>>> generous?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> **** It is not about Assam's abundance but B'Desh's privation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> simple.
>>>>>>>>>>> Assam and the contiguous
>>>>>>>>>>> region still has land and that is a huge incentive to migrate
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>> have none.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There must be checks and balances.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> **** Tell us about it. So how has India performed on delivering
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> checks and balances so far?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Dilip and Dil Deka <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> dilipdeka at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For whatever it is worth, this letter from Chandan Mahanta has
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> support..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been trying to convey the same message over the years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Holding onto the guns with a sullen face
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> not talking
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> including the people in Assam will not result in a solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Persistent
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>> discussion and deliberation are the only viable paths.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * It is impossible to seal a border where natural
>>>>>>>>>>>> barriers
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> do
>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> exist. Assam will have to learn to live with the Bangladeshi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> even if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Assam becomes autonomous or a sovereign country.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>
>>> world
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assam at assamnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: ulfa.protalk at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:34:21 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assam/3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> During the past several years, we here in assamnet debated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over again, your movement and your struggles for an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assam. Over the years it became abundantly clear to me that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our friends here in this forum, in spite of their training,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> education
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and accomplishments, are quite uninformed about the reasons
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking to arms in pursuit of independence for Assam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >We the pro-talk group
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >temporarily suspending the armed struggle & strongly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> advocating
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >democratic process to bring a peaceful and political solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Assam-India's conflict and clashes between the ethnic groups
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >a peaceful and prosperous Assam along with a united powerful
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> India.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> **** Here it is important for you to explain why and how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> democracy has not performed , how your successive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'democratically'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> elected governments were neither responsive nor able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> respond
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your needs that ultimately led you to give up on the promise
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indian democracy and finally, out of desperation , led to your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to arms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why it is important to explain is that MOST of our people are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant of these issues. The idea is to generate awareness
>>>>>>>>>>>>> among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > the population and to mobilize INFORMED public opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I realize it is a lot of work. But there is no short-cut to
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> **** You wrote about "temporarily suspending the armed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> struggle--".
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that mean that you might
>>>>>>>>>>>>> return to armed struggle? If so, should you not also explain
>>>>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what circumstances you may consider resorting to armed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> struggle?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That should send a signal to GoI and GoA that you are serious
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your wish to attempt to forge a political solution, but if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > frustrated or resisted by the governments in power, you may
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> return to the armed struggle, which, by all indications the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Assam ( the thinking ones anyway) do not want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not that I am one who believes in threatening anyone as a good
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> start a negotiation for attaining a political solution to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enduring conflict. But considering the history of your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> adversaries'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sincerity and their ability or willingness to effect political
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrative reforms that are direly needed in Assam and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> surrounding region, you have little leverage left to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> engage them
>>>>
>>>> in
>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> serious dialogue, other than a concern for a resumption of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> violence,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> however feeble now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The only hope for something positive and constructive will be
>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> outpouring of public opinion. That could be effected if you
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>> clearly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> explain what you see as the problems and how they could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolved
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by what you propose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> As you have already noticed right in this forum, there will be
>>>>>
>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who will opposed anything that they perceive as reducing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> controls over Assam's future, including contradicting their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> loudly proclaimed and roundly repeated positions. And they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the tips of the icebergs of the establishment in Assam,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> something you
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> must be well aware of.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Therefore it is of critical importance for you to :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A: Clearly spell out what you see as problems, item by item.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> B: Explain how what you propose will help resolve them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You must do so in simple language, understandable by ordinary
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ( avoid the jargon of professionals). And then go disseminate it
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> among the populace. Ultimately it is a matter of persuasion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you must be realistic about is the issue of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bangladeshis
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assam: It is not something you, or your ex-comrades-in-arms
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still fighting or the government of Assam, never mind who is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> power
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a given day; the might of the Indian armed forces or even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire population of Assam unified to resist it will be able
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradicate. It is much too complex an issue, the like of which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most powerful nation on earth, the USA, has not been able
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolve. Ultimately we cannot and must not forget that as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> human
>>>>>>>>>>>>> beings, we cannot just wish those others away who happen to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different from us but who want to live too, even if by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> encroaching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> land whose boundaries we created or imagined.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you dwell on this as the primary focus of your aims for Assam,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are doomed at the outset. I realize it is an easy issue to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> public ire with, but it is a recipe for sure failure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You must focus on issues that are very important but which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> achievable solutions..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to call on me if I can be of any assistance. I am no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expert, but I have tried to understand what has been going on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what led you to take up arms and what can be done now to end
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> More later..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chandan Mahanta
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 10:59 AM +0530 3/7/09, ULFA Pro-talk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Dear Friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >In the beginning, we convey our heartiest revolutionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> greetings
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >members of Assamnet. We, the members of ULFA ( Pro-talk )
>>>>>>>>>>>>> held
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>
>>> meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >15th December'2008 and unanimously agreed to give up the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >sovereign state of Assam and demand for full autonomy within
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> framework
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of Indian constitution, through a democratic and non-violent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >welcome discussion from all the Assamese people residing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> across
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> globe
>>>>>
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the demand for Full Autonomy of Assam under the framework of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >constitution. We are attaching herewith the 'Charter of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demands'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> submitted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >to the Government of Indi. Also, we are attaching our
>>>>>>>>>>>> Menifesto
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >information of all members of Assamnet. Please log on to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >www.sandhikhyan.orgfor updates.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Looking forward for constructive discussion and petronisation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> burning
>>>>>
>>>>>> >issues of Assam from all the members of Assamnet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Jiten Dutta
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Gen. Secy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >ULFA (Protalk)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >*MANIFESTO*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >(ULFA PRO-TALK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Historically and socially, Assam have no affinity with India
>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >administratively and geographically apart, ethnically
>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinct
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >neglect, deprivation and apathy rowards Assam and Assamese
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >since 15thAugust 1947 to till to date, supports the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> justification
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >Assam. We joined the United Liberation Front of Assam to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> liberate
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Assam
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >India. After 29 years of our struggle we have painfully
>>>>>>>>>>>>> observed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >leaders of ULFA instead of fighting for desired goals, failed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> safeguard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >the identity and the existence of indigenous people,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> overlooking or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ignoring
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >the presence of large number of illegal immigrants ( who will
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> become
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >majority in next 20 years and they will conspire to merge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bangladesh
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >through a referendum ) and involved in activities by getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> distracted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >revolutionaries ideologies. Therefore, we the pro-talk ULFA
>>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >at the (a) global political and economic situation (b)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> continuous
>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >from the neighbouring countries surrounding Assam (c)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> terrorist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >attacks in Assam by anti-Indian religious and fundamentalist
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> groups
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (d)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >age-old religious and cultural ties with India; have adopted a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >favour of Full Regional Autonomy instead of independent Assam
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> pragmatic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >approach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >During the process of making the Constitution of India a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> resolution
>>
>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >adopted to make India a federal one by giving regional
>>>>>>>>>>>>> autonomy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> states
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >but unfortunately in the subsequent period it was made a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> centralized
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >resulting in the smaller states and the small indigenous
>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups
>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >specific characteristics and living with dignity have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in
>>
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of big ethnic groups and states by way of aggression and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> exploitation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >fallout is resentment, hostility and secessionism. We the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pro-talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >temporarily suspending the armed struggle & strongly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> advocating
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >democratic process to bring a peaceful and political solution
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Assam-India's conflict and clashes between the ethnic groups
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> build
>>>>>
>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >a peaceful and prosperous Assam along with a united powerful
>>>>>>>>>>>>> India.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >*Alternate to Independence*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >A full regional autonomy by enjoying all the residual powers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> excepting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > defense,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >external affaires, communications and print mint ( by making
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vital
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >to the existing Constitution of India ) to build up a real
>>>>>>>>>>>>> federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >by making vital changes to the infrastructure and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reorganizing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> states
>>>>>
>>>>>> >with a provision for equal rights and representation to all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> indigenous
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >ethnic groups. Similarly, in order to safeguard the identity
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of indigenous and ethnic groups, the federal administrative
>>>>>>>>>>>>> framework
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >be used in Assam..
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >*Proposed administrative structure of Assam*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >To create an upper house, representing equally by all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> indigenous
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >ethnic groups. Besides all indigenous people, other people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >already settled in Assam permanently as for example Bengalis,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biharis,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Marwaris, Punjabis, Nepalis and tea-tribes will be considered
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >groups and will enjoy equal representations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > The upper house will be free to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> determine
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >and taking decisions on the proposed legislations and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>>>>>>>> schemes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Assam in the best interest of the people of Assam. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> objective
>>>>>>>>>>>>> principle
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >of the house is to safeguard the interests of indigenous and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 1. The Upper House will be constituted selecting and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> electing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > representatives from all ethnic groups. Central and State
>>>>>>>>>>>>> governments
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > not be having the power and rights to dissolve the house.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > electorates through referendum shall have the right to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reject
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dissolve
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > the house.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 2. Small ethnic groups will be having the rights to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> select
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>> >>>>> > representatives through their socially recognized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> institutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > organizations and the major ethnic groups will elect
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> representatives
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > through elections.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>> > 3. All the ethnic groups shall have the right to recall or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> replace
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > representatives.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > 4. The representatives of the house will elect a leader and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deputy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > leader. Rotation wise every ethnic group will elect a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> speaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> deputy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > speaker of the house and their term will be for a period
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 5. The responsibilities of the representatives of upper
>>>>>>>>>>>>> house
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > service- oriented nature. There shall be no provisions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> salary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > pensions but expenses relating to maintenance, medical,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> traveling
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > allowances, office and its maintenance and its security
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shall
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> borne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> > the state government.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >*The Rights and Powers of Upper House *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 1. Right to discuss, analyze and taking decisions on all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> laws
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > and legislations and developmental schemes of Assam by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ascertaining
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > it is in the best interest of Assam or not and will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> amend
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > reject such laws, legislations and schemes and such
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > disapproved by the concerned governments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > 2. The main objective of upper house is to safeguard the
>>>>>
>>>>>> existence
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > development of all the indigenous and ethnic groups and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> examine
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > proper implementations of all the laws, legislations and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> developmental
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > schemes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 3. It will be statutory on the part of the concerned
>>>>>>>>>>>>> governments
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > the copies relating to the approval and implementation of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> laws,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > legislations and developmental schemes to the upper
>>>>>>>>>>>>> house.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 4. Rights to amend , settle the matters relating to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disputes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > implementation of laws, legislations, developmental
>>>>>>>>>>>>> schemes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > conflicts, boundary and other disputes with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> neighbouring
>>>>>>>>>>>>> north-eastern
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > states on the strength of majority support of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> representatives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shall
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > be obligatory on the part of the concerned governments to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > amendments and advices and to implement the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >*An administrative system based on Equal Rights, Status, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Development
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >their own land for indigenous and ethnic people.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >In the proposed regional autonomous
>> administration, the power
>>
>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >de-centralized by creating district councils and by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegating
>>>>>>>>>>>>> powers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >grass root levels. There will be zonal and village councils
>>>>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>>>>> district
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >councils.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > District councils will be under the complete
>> control of the
>>
>>> major
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >indigenous people or groups and the other small indigenous
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >will be able to assert their rights and fulfillment of their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspirations
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >through the zonal and village councils. While the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >provisions a situation may warrant to reorganize some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> districts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >There will be no hindrances to major indigenous people or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> form
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >district councils, having a definite area of their own but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> splintered
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >indigenous and ethnic groups will be able to assert their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fulfill
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >their aspirations through zonal and village councils.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >*Proposed Format of Administrative Structure Of Indigenous
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethnic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >People.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >*STATE GOVERNMENT*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >*DISTRICT COUNCIL*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >*ZONAL COUNCIL*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >*VILLAGE COUNCIL*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >*Creation of Ethnically based Administrative System and its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rights
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >Powers*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 1. In every 5 years people will form districts, zonal and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> village
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > councils through elections.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 2. Every district council will be reserved for the major
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> indigenous
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > groups and the zonal and the village councils will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reserved
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> basis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > of the population composition of indigenous and ethnic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> their
>>>>>
>>>>>> > definite areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 3. Government shall implement all the schemes through
>>>>>>>>>>>>> district
>>>>>>>>>>>>> councils
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > and similarly district council through zonal councils and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> zonal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > councils
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > through village councils.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 4. If a situation warrants, the state governments with
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> approval
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > upper house will be free to dissolve the district
>>>>>>>>>>>>> council.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 5. District councils will collect minimum revenue from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> land,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > establishments and other natural resources, market and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> finished
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> products
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > through zonal and village councils of their areas..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >*ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL***
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>
>>> >An alternative administrative system may be considered in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >autonomous rule against the above-mentioned system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 1. Under proposed autonomous state of Assam there will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> district
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > council in every district. 65% of the seats will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reserved
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>
>>> > major indigenous groups who are residing or permanently
>>>>>>>>>>>>> settled
>>>>>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 1826. 20% will be reserved for all the other indigenous
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > districts. 15% of the seats will be reserved for other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5% of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>
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