[Assam] From the Sentinel -Letters to the Editor 17/05/2010
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at gmail.com
Tue Jun 1 06:17:34 PDT 2010
>Sorry C'da! Then it must be somebody else who said that Assamese
words are being replaced, more and more, by Sanskrit words whereas it
didn't even >come from Sanskrit.
*** I don't know what that means, A, but what does it have to do with
a statement like:
>is then when you learnt that Assamese and Sanskrit are not related,
>>>>> C'da?
*** I know I make a lot comments or arguments here that annoy, bother
and even
enrage some of our friends. More so because they are based on
unpleasant truths
or sound arguments, which they can't demolish with the ease they would
like to.
That is why they manufacture exaggerated or otherwise untenable
statements, sounding
vaguely similar to something I might have written, attribute them to
myself, and then either
go on to demolish them with ease or leave them in the air to create
the impression that I make absurd
comments or outlandish arguments which normal people ought not to pay
any heed to.
I am surprised you did not demolish a statement like "---Assamese and
Sanskrit are not related"
when it was aired, whoever that might have been by, and let it stand
A :-). Could you not have
come up with anything of substance to counter that?
*** I do know how these things work though. Maybe I should humor our
annoyed friends once
in a while with some deliberately inflammatory or untenable arguments,
just so they can
let some steam out, demolishing them, at my expense.
>Also, do you know that the demolishion of the Babri Masjid is Not
considered a proud
>achievement by many hindus. A lot of them were shocked and did and
still do condemn it.
*** Thanks for clarifying that, A. Actually I did not know that :-).
If I had to guess, I would have
guessed that those who condemned it, after the fact or even in the
months and days before
the demolition exercises when the fury was being built up so
publicly , were secular types,
but nominally Hindu. I didn't know that devout Hindus spoke out
against it while the
march to the demolition derby was being organized by the heroes of
the movement. Notably
apathetic was the then PM, Narasimha Rao. He was a Hindu, was he :-)?
Anyway, if you know, would like to know the names of Hindu ( not just
nominal ones
or them "secularists") intellectuals , spiritual or religious leaders
or political leaders who
stood up against the move and spoke out. I know it was something from
a hoary past
and if you can't remember who they were, I will understand. After all,
this memory thang
has a tendency to play tricks with our minds.
Hope you are enjoying your vacation, free wi-fi or not :-).
c-da
On May 31, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
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>> *** The mind must be a place where old information gets smashed and
>> re-
>> hashed to fit one's
>> predilections. Because I never wrote anything even remotely akin to
>> "Assamese and Sanskrit are not related, ".
>> Had I written anything like that, wouldn't you all have demolished it
>> like the Babri Masjid :-), with bare hands?
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> Sorry C'da! Then it must be somebody else who said that Assamese
> words are being replaced, more and more, by Sanskrit words whereas
> it didn't even come from Sanskrit. And I thought that makes a
> language even stronger, for example, people keep using French/Latin
> words like via, e.g., per/ annum, etc., etc. within the English
> language - that did not make the language disappear.
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> Also, do you know that the demolishion of the Babri Masjid is Not
> considered a proud achievement by many hindus. A lot of them were
> shocked and did and still do condemn it.
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>> From: cmahanta at gmail.com
>> To: assam at assamnet.org
>> Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 16:12:45 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Assam] From the Sentinel -Letters to the Editor
>> 17/05/2010
>>
>> Hi A:
>>
>>
>>> No, I think it was something you wrote about, if I remember
>> correctly, that is.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> *** The mind must be a place where old information gets smashed and
>> re-
>> hashed to fit one's
>> predilections. Because I never wrote anything even remotely akin to
>> "Assamese and Sanskrit are not related, ".
>> Had I written anything like that, wouldn't you all have demolished it
>> like the Babri Masjid :-), with bare hands?
>>
>> Have a great trip.
>>
>> c-da
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>> On May 29, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> *** Is that something I said or is it yet another example of
>>>> creative
>>>> manufacturing
>>>> of quotes by fertile minded assamnetters, attributed to me, A?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, I think it was something you wrote about, if I remember
>>> correctly, that is.
>>>
>>> I am not that creative, rather impulsive I suppose! :)
>>>
>>>> And by the same token, the English language is too influenced by
>>>> many
>>>> other languages,
>>>> from near and far. Remember Veni,vidi,vici :-)?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> yes, and tHAT's great. I just truly wish that Assamese was spoken by
>>> a lot more people than the current number of people, and more
>>> literature work were available on the language.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> will write more soon after we move to an area where internet is
>>> available 24/7.
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>>>> From: cmahanta at gmail.com
>>>> To: assam at assamnet.org
>>>> Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 08:23:19 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] From the Sentinel -Letters to the Editor
>>>> 17/05/2010
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> is then when you learnt that Assamese and Sanskrit are not
>>>>> related,
>>>>> C'da?
>>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *** Is that something I said or is it yet another example of
>>>> creative
>>>> manufacturing
>>>> of quotes by fertile minded assamnetters, attributed to me, A?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *** I know what you are alluding to. But the Assamese language is
>>>> related
>>>> to or influenced by many other languages, from near and far.
>>>>
>>>> And by the same token, the English language is too influenced by
>>>> many
>>>> other languages,
>>>> from near and far. Remember Veni,vidi,vici :-)?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> On May 28, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> did not have that choice in my boarding school, so learned a
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> Sanskrit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> is then when you learnt that Assamese and Sanskrit are not
>>>>> related,
>>>>> C'da?
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>> From: cmahanta at gmail.com
>>>>>> To: assam at assamnet.org
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 13:23:08 -0500
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] From the Sentinel -Letters to the Editor
>>>>>> 17/05/2010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At my Namti High School, we had similar choices. I thought of
>>>>>> learning
>>>>>> Farsi. But by class VIII moved to Guahati, where we
>>>>>> did not have that choice in my boarding school, so learned a
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> Sanskrit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 28, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When we studied in Cotton Collegiate School, Guwahati, back in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> early sixties, we were offered three lanuages for optional
>>>>>>> study -
>>>>>>> Arabic, Farsi and Sanskrit. A student could pick any. Latin was
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> offered.
>>>>>>> I distinctly remember that the Arabic teacher (who also
>>>>>>> substituted
>>>>>>> in Assamese class) asked me if I would be interested in learning
>>>>>>> Arabic. Sanskrit won over Arabic and Farsi in my case. I also
>>>>>>> remember the same teacher describing his Id-ul-Fitr celebration
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the meal in a class
>>>>>>> without any hesitation, as it should be. Will it happen in
>>>>>>> today's
>>>>>>> India?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Out of curiosity, I poked the internet and found some
>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>> articles on Sanskrit and Muslim scholars. In the attachment I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> posted three articles. Hope you also find them interesting and
>>>>>>> inspiring.
>>>>>>> Dilip Deka
>>>>>>> Houston
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> world <assam at assamnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 10:09:50 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] From the Sentinel -Letters to the Editor
>>>>>>> 17/05/2010
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Xongoskritor jaat moril eibaar :-) !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 27, 2010, at 9:27 PM, UTTAM BORTHAKUR wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> INAMUL ABDULLAH, Bori Dotora Village, Ghagrapar, near Nalbari,
>>>>>>>> SECURED THE
>>>>>>>> HIGHEST MARK (94%) in *SANSKRIT* in the Higher Secondary exam
>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>> SEBA. He
>>>>>>>> got a LETTER in that subject in High School Leaving Certificate
>>>>>>>> Exam.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, UTTAM BORTHAKUR <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, what is this DNA testing supposed to prove or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disprove?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sounds to me like a case of "olpo-bidya bhoyonkori".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ******* Our Manoj Das has a fairly good idea about its
>>>>>>>>> consequences. Manoj
>>>>>>>>> please!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In Louisiana, I was interrogated by the police, as I looked
>>>>>>>>> like a
>>>>>>>>> Hispanic
>>>>>>>>> to them. And they sniffed at the Pithaguri, I was carrying
>>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>> friend.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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