[Assam] force is effective only as a preventative

[Ram Sarangapani]

Uttam,

I certainly will - but a bit later on, perhaps in the evening. Enjoy Nepal.
The interiors must be pristine and beautiful.

--Ram da

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:27 AM, uttam borthakur <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in
> wrote:

> Ram Da,
>
> I request you to kindly say something on my earlier post as quoted below.
> As I shall be away in Nepal interiors for a while, I may not possibly be
> able to react soon : -
>  "
>                          We surely do not live in, or off, the US.
>
> But the Jewish Professor, who utters the following words, and quotes
> Winston Churchill, surely does. So, he ought not (normative) have the
> "victim mentality” (same use of adjectives such as 'bloody' Brits instead of
> 'snooty' Brits or the ‘smug’ Americans!).
>
> XXXXXXX
>
> "Literal censorship barely exists in the United States, but thought control
> is a flourishing industry, indeed an indispensable one in a free society
> based on the principle of elite decision, public endorsement or passivity"
>
>
> Xxxxxx
>
> “ The central device of the system of “brainwashing under freedom,”
> developed in a most impressive fashion in the country that is perhaps the
> most free, is to encourage debate over policy issues but within a framework
> of presuppositions that incorporate the basic doctrines of the party line.
> The more vigorous the debate the more effectively the presuppositions are
> instilled, while participants and onlookers are overcome with awe and
> self-adulation for their courage. Thus in the case of the Vietnam War, the
> ideological institutions permitted a debate between the ‘hawks’ and “doves”;
> in fact, the debate was not only permitted, but even encouraged by 1968,
> when substantial sectors of American business had turned against the war as
> too costly and harmful to their interest.”
>
> xxxxxx
> "Mark Heller, deputy director of Jaffee Centre for Strategic Studies at Tel
> Aviv University explains that 'state-sponsored terrorism is low intensity
> warfare, and its victims, including the United States, are therefore
> entitled to fight back with every means at their disposal.' It follows,
> then, that other victims of "low intensity warfare" and "state sponsored
> terrorism" are "entitled to fight back with every means at their disposal":
> Salvadorans, Nicaraguans, Palestinians, Lebanese, and innumerable other
> victims...... through out a good part of the world......... It is true that
> these consequences follow only if we accept an elementary moral principle:
> that we apply to ourselves the same standards we apply to others....... But
> that principle, and what follows from adopting it, is scarcely
> comprehensible in the prevailing intellectual culture, and would be hardly
> be expressible in journals that demand stern punishment of others for their
> crimes. In
>  fact, were anyone to draw the logical consequence of these dicta and
> express them clearly, they might well be subject to prosecution for inciting
> terrorist violence against political leaders of the United States and its
> allies"
>
>
>
> xxxxxx
>  Per Winston Churchill: " ... we are not a young people with an innocent
> record and a scanty inheritance. We have engrossed to ourselves... an
> altogether disproportionate share of wealth and traffic of the world. We
> have got all we want in territory, and our claim to be left in the
> unmolested enjoyment of vast and splendid possessions, mainly acquired by
> violence, largely maintained by force, often seems less reasonable to others
> than to us.........
>
> ...." the government of the world must be entrusted to satisfied nations,
> who wished nothing more for themselves than what they had. If the
> world-government were in the hands of hungry nations, there would always be
> danger. But none of us had any reason to seek anything more. The peace would
> be kept by peoples who lived their own way and were not ambitious. Our power
> placed us above the rest. We were like rich men dwelling at peace within
> their habitation"
>
> >From me: AMEN. I can only try to understand the limitations of the
> ‘intellectual culture’, because I try to follow the humanist maxim that
> nothing human is alien to me J
> Uttam Kumar Borthakur
>
>
>
> Uttam Kumar Borthakur
>
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