[Assam] ULFA no longer a force to be reckoned with, IB tells Centre - Sentinel

[Chan Mahanta]

Those are very clever comments no doubt!

What is not-so-clever, however, is the fact that the 'democratically  
elected'
desi-govt/s. have neither been able to find or deport them. So what do  
our
desi-demokrasy enthusiasts say about that? Is there a problem here with
desi-sorkar, one that the clever netters so glibly put their trust on,  
or is it a
problem with Uttam or is it a problem with the glib ones here ?













On Jun 9, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:

> KJD,
>
> I am a little intrigued that there is quite possibly this notion out  
> there
> that there are NO illegal B'deshis in Assam,
> and that all this is a political ploy of some kind. Though, I  
> haven't met
> any illegal (or Undocumented - in PC speak) B'deshis, we keep  
> reading and
> hearing about vast numbers of B'deshis coming into Assam/NE, and  
> even as far
> as Delhi, W. Bengal etc.
>
> The previous BD PM categorically stated there are none, and one time  
> the
> Assam Govt. was able to identify 6 or 7 B'deshis for deportation.
> Heck, and if sections of people also believe that there are none, I  
> guess
> there are no illegal B'deshis in Assam.
>
> The other thing about North Indians grabbing land in Assam is  
> something very
> new. I have never heard about this (not that it matters) and  
> something even
> close to it. If these are 'criminal' acts, then it quite possibly  
> pervasive
> in other parts of India, and just making inroads into Assam.
>
> --Ram
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:18 PM, kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
>>>>> Hmmm! I haven't met any either. Next time we visit Assam, I will  
>>>>> have to
>> make it point to meet one :-).<<<
>>
>> RS,
>> I am sure,there must be plenty of merry andrews in Assam as well as  
>> in
>> the Net.However,in terms of buffoonery,he or she will not be able to
>> match the one,who expects an illegal Bangladeshis to put on a ID tag
>> hanging around his neck with the purpose of divulging his nationality
>> :-)
>> KJD
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Dear Uttam,
>>>
>>>> My problem is I cannot see anything in isolation. For me the  
>>>> events are
>> all
>>> connected; we can see the past; but cannot forecast the future: that
>>> sort
>>> of: -).
>>>
>>> I agree there is value in viewing issues in this manner. However,  
>>> some
>>> issues (like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict or similar ones)  
>>> there is
>>> absolutely no end. The time line can be shifted at will, and how one
>> wishes.
>>>
>>> That is why, it is often a good idea to compartmentalize issues.  
>>> One has
>> to
>>> start at some base line.
>>>
>>>> 1. I have not yet personally met a confirmed illegal Bangladeshi
>>> migrant ascertained to be one till date. Have you?
>>>
>>> Hmmm! I haven't met any either. Next time we visit Assam, I will  
>>> have to
>>> make it point to meet one :-).
>>>
>>> But, there is the other possibility, since you have met one, and I
>> haven't
>>> either, then we can both be sure there aren't any illegal B'deshis  
>>> in
>> Assam.
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>> 2. The recent killings near Dr. Dhaniram Baruah's Heart City have  
>>>> been
>>> attributed to land grabbing. Some business people from the  
>>> >cowbelt want
>> a
>>> huge contiguous plot of land on south bank near Guwahati to build  
>>> up a
>>> township.
>>>
>>> I remember this. We were at Guwahati around that time. The Dr. was  
>>> in
>>> B'lore, and some miscreants destroyed a big portion of his hospital.
>>> So, you claim some Hindiwalls or the like were behind this. And this
>> proves
>>> what, Uttam? That these Hindiwallas are out to get us?
>>>
>>>> There is no point in merely condemning the armed activity by a  
>>>> small
>>> section of the Assamese. Being irrational, these activities would  
>>> surely
>>>> give you the opportunity to sneer at them. But that will rather  
>>>> stoke the
>>> fire than to douse it: do not you suggest we adhere to >'non- 
>>> >violence'?
>> You
>>> got to feel the fragile Assamese psyche in relation to its  
>>> foundation in
>>> hinterland ( some people say colony within a >colony!) economics. 
>>> ( you
>> call
>>> it 'victim mentality' which is not very empathic...)
>>>
>>> Whether I empathize or not hardly matters, the 'Victim mentality'  
>>> exists
>> &
>>> quite well for that matter. In fact, this is a favorite tool used by
>> armed
>>> rebellions all over the world, and maybe even countries.
>>>
>>> --Ram da
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:42 PM, uttam borthakur
>>> <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Ram Da,
>>>>
>>>> My problem is I cannot see anything in isolation. For me the  
>>>> events are
>> all
>>>> connected; we can see the past; but cannot forecast the future:  
>>>> that
>> sort
>>>> of: -).
>>>>
>>>> Since I have to run this time, I just point out a few things for  
>>>> you to
>>>> just ponder: -
>>>>
>>>> 1. I have not yet personally met a confirmed illegal Bangladeshi
>>>> migrant ascertained to be one till date. Have you?
>>>>
>>>> 2. The recent killings near Dr. Dhaniram Baruah's Heart City have  
>>>> been
>>>> attributed to land grabbing. Some business people from the  
>>>> cowbelt want
>> a
>>>> huge contiguous plot of land on south bank near Guwahati to build  
>>>> up a
>>>> township. In Chandrapur area, the Oxomiya henchmen of the cowbelt
>> business
>>>> houses are intimidating, killing, demolishing fences, etc. etc.  
>>>> in order
>> to
>>>> devour the land. Local resistance of villagers, who are getting
>> organised in
>>>> the fear of losing homestead, are somewhat delaying the process.
>> Political
>>>> bigwigs , Ministersrunning Assam are in cahoots. Policemen are  
>>>> involved.
>> All
>>>> these are daily news. Recently, I went on a survey. I was aghast to
>> learn
>>>> that annual periodic pattas are given to the settlers; they are now
>> given
>>>> the marching orders after giving them some money and a back dated
>> agreement;
>>>> on the basis of such agreement petty revenue for last fiver years  
>>>> are
>> paid
>>>> in the name of these political bigwigs, ministers, northerners,
>>>> journalists etc. who have occupied huge chunks of beautiful forest,
>> hill
>>>> lands with tremendous sight of the mighty Brahmaputra. If you pay  
>>>> 20
>> times
>>>> or so of the revenue you get a Myadi Patta. For the poor settlers  
>>>> it is
>> a
>>>> huge amount; for the carpetbaggers it is pittance. ( My take on  
>>>> this is
>> :
>>>> all colonial masters need local henchmen / dalals. The rich from  
>>>> the
>> cowbelt
>>>> will always need their paid goons to carry out their dirty works.  
>>>> But
>> 'root
>>>> cause' is the money and greed of the masters: the principal  
>>>> aspect of
>> the
>>>> contradiction:-))
>>>>
>>>> 3. For various historical reasons, the processs of Assamese Nation
>>>> formation (in the modern sense; I do not begin with  
>>>> Narakasura:-)) has
>> not
>>>> been very sturdy and this inherent weakness has led to knee-jerk
>> reactions
>>>> weakening the process rather than bolstering it. There is no  
>>>> point in
>>>> merely condemning the armed activity by a small section of the  
>>>> Assamese.
>>>> Being irrational, these activities would surely give you the  
>>>> opportunity
>> to
>>>> sneer at them. But that will rather stoke the fire than to douse  
>>>> it: do
>> not
>>>> you suggest we adhere to 'non-violence'? You got to feel the
>>>> fragile Assamese psyche in relation to its foundation in  
>>>> hinterland (
>> some
>>>> people say colony within a colony!) economics.( you call it 'victim
>>>> mentality' which is not very empathic...)
>>>>
>>>> That's about it for now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Uttam Kumar Borthakur
>>>>
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