[Assam] European Union and South Asian Federation

Chan Mahanta cmahanta at gmail.com
Fri Jun 11 19:31:19 PDT 2010


It still is beating around the bush and does not address:

A: IF it is a good idea or not.

B: If it is NOT a bad idea, if it is desirable, then we can look into  
how to
achieve it.

Just because it seems like an impossibility ( which it might be) , we  
must
not attempt to portrait the idea as bad or undesirable.  That would be
thoughtless.






On Jun 11, 2010, at 6:03 PM, kamal deka wrote:

> By the way,I am summing up the entire discourse in two sentences.
> Would it not amount to a snipe hunt to expect three huge countries
> with disparate background to come under one umbrella to foster
> friendly relations, when there is not even a semblance of unity among
> 300 kharkhuwa families in the USA? Haven't we witnessed time and again
> how the unification process crumbles like a house of cards? To me,this
> is nothing but a pure bunkum.
> Let me give you the meaning of the saying " playing both sides against
> the middle"---trying to support two opposing views at the same time.In
> other word,there is no point in running with the hare and the hunting
> with the hounds.
> KJD
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> Well, let us see if we can DE-Mystify this:
>>
>>
>> Allow me to agree that the mystifier here is a bad person, an ULFA- 
>> Pal in
>> the image of say, a terrorist
>> pal like Obama as the great American intellectual Sarah Palin might  
>> say. But
>> he is just a messenger.  Is the
>> message he is carrying, sullied by his personal failings?
>>
>> Or is the message a bad one? An undesirable one?
>>
>> IF, the message is bad, why so? Is it because it will harm India?
>>
>> And if it is NOT a bad message, that it would not only be in (India's
>> interest, but also its neighbors, then
>> why tar-and-feather the message, pooh-pooh it, because of the  
>> messenger's
>> personal failures?
>>
>> Would a thinking person, able or willing to reason, do that?  Cut  
>> his/her
>> own nose to spite the face?
>>
>> That IS the question here.
>>
>> Will we be blessed with an explanation?
>>
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>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 8:04 PM, kamal deka wrote:
>>
>>> That's exactly how an ULFA's pal engages himself in an exercise  
>>> called
>>> MYSTIFICATION!!
>>> Somebody,please let me know if there is a superior double talker  
>>> than
>>> this.
>>> KJD
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Alpana B. Sarangapani
>>> <absarangapani at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Isn't that something? Some are visioning of one big united world  
>>>> and some
>>>> are trying to  divide one little (or big) country that they live  
>>>> in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sushanta Kar <pragyan.tsc50 at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:56:30
>>>> To: <assam at assamnet.org>
>>>> Subject: [Assam] European Union and South Asian Federation
>>>>
>>>> This is the Dream, most of the people is visioning these days.  
>>>> People of
>>>>  this region will sure go for it!
>>>>
>>>>  I support your proposal Dilipda!
>>>>
>>>>  Sushanta
>>>>
>>>>  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>  From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>>  Date: 10 June 2010 23:22
>>>>  Subject: Re: [Assam] European Union and South Asian Federation
>>>>  To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around  
>>>> the world
>>>> <
>>>>  assam at assamnet.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Precisely!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I am sure most netters have read european history and know how  
>>>> viciously
>>>>  > the european tribes (and subsequently nations) fought for  
>>>> centuries.
>>>> World
>>>>  > wars I and II were fought in Europe. If those people can form an
>>>> economic
>>>>  > and political union for the sake of survival, what is wrong in
>>>> expecting
>>>>  > India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (also Sri Lanka, Nepal and Bhutan
>>>> possibly)
>>>>  > to form a federation?
>>>>  > There are 27 members in the EU and it is growing.
>>>>  > Dilip
>>>>  > ===========================================================
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Member states
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>>>>  > The continental territories of the member states of the  
>>>> European Union
>>>>  > (European Communities pre-1993), animated in order of accession.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Albania
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Austria
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Belarus
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Belgium
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Bos.
>>>>  > & Herz.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Bulgaria
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Croatia
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Cyprus
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Czech
>>>>  > Rep.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Denmark
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Estonia
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Finland
>>>>  >
>>>>  > France
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Germany
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Greece
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Hungary
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Iceland
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Ireland
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Italy
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Latvia
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Lithuania
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Luxembourg
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Mac.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Malta?
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Moldova
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Mont.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Netherlands
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Norway
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Poland
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Portugal
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Romania
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Russia
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Serbia
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Slovakia
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Slovenia
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Spain
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Sweden
>>>>  >
>>>>  >  Switz-
>>>>  > erland
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Turkey
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Ukraine
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  > United
>>>>  > Kingdom
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
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>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  > European Union is composed of 27 sovereign Member States:  
>>>> Austria,
>>>> Belgium,
>>>>  > Bulgaria, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland,
>>>> France,
>>>>  > Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania,
>>>> Luxembourg,
>>>>  > Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovak  
>>>> Republic,
>>>>  > Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and the United Kingdom.[30]
>>>>  > The Union's membership has grown from the original six founding
>>>>  > states-Belgium, France, (then-West) Germany, Italy, Luxembourg  
>>>> and the
>>>>  > Netherlands-to the present day 27 by successive enlargements as
>>>> countries
>>>>  > acceded to the treaties and by doing so, pooled their  
>>>> sovereignty in
>>>>  > exchange for representation in the institutions.[31]
>>>>  > To join the EU a country must meet the Copenhagen criteria,  
>>>> defined at
>>>> the
>>>>  > 1993 Copenhagen European Council. These require a stable  
>>>> democracy
>>>> that
>>>>  > respects human rights and the rule of law; a functioning market
>>>> economy
>>>>  > capable of competition within the EU; and the acceptance of the
>>>> obligations
>>>>  > of membership, including EU law. Evaluation of a country's  
>>>> fulfilment
>>>> of the
>>>>  > criteria is the responsibility of the European Council.[32]
>>>>  > No member state has ever left the Union, although Greenland (an
>>>> autonomous
>>>>  > province of Denmark) withdrew in 1985. The Lisbon Treaty now  
>>>> provides
>>>> a
>>>>  > clause dealing with how a member leaves the EU.
>>>>  > There are three official candidate countries, Croatia,  
>>>> Macedonia and
>>>>  > Turkey. Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Serbia and
>>>> Iceland are
>>>>  > officially recognised as potential candidates.[33] Kosovo is  
>>>> also
>>>> listed as
>>>>  > a potential candidate but the European Commission does not  
>>>> list it as
>>>> an
>>>>  > independent country because not all member states recognise it  
>>>> as an
>>>>  > independent country separate from Serbia.[34]
>>>>  > Four Western European countries that have chosen not to join  
>>>> the EU
>>>> have
>>>>  > partly committed to the EU's economy and regulations: Iceland,  
>>>> which
>>>> has now
>>>>  > applied for membership, Liechtenstein and Norway, which are a  
>>>> part of
>>>> the
>>>>  > single market through the European Economic Area, and  
>>>> Switzerland,
>>>> which has
>>>>  > similar ties through bilateral treaties.[35][36] The  
>>>> relationships of
>>>> the
>>>>  > European microstates, Andorra, Monaco, San Marino and the  
>>>> Vatican
>>>> include
>>>>  > the use of the euro and other areas of co-operation.[37]
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