[Assam] European Union and South Asian Federation

Chan Mahanta cmahanta at gmail.com
Sun Jun 13 07:41:24 PDT 2010


On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:38 AM, kamal deka wrote:

>>>> The ol', when ordinary-reasoning-fails, turn-to- pseudo- 
>>>> philosophy-routine<<<
>
> I,too,dismiss off your reasoning as mambo-jumbo:-)
>
>>>> language is playing tricks again in desi-minds, making a  
>>>> federation seem
> like a re-union.<<<
>
> Federation,in one way,


**** Are there OTHER way of defining it?  Other than   below?



> can be defined as a group of states with a
> central government but independence in internal affairs.The catch
> phrase is " central government". India,for example, is a federal
> constitutional republic consisting of 28 states and seven union
> territories with a parliamentary system of democracy.The rest is
> self-explanatory.


**** What about EU ? Is it same as India, the FAKE federal state?















>
>>>> WHY it is good for India to hold on to Assam OR WHY it is bad for  
>>>> Assam to be free?<<<
>
> Power of a fist vs power of a finger. United we stand,divided we
> fall.As simple as that.That's why we have The United States ,The
> United Kingdom or UAE et al.
> KJD
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>>> Once you stop believing in shooting first and asking questions
>>>
>>> later,every obscurity will be clear and comprehensible.
>>
>>                                ######
>>
>>> I don't believe in building castles in the mirage.
>>
>>
>>
>> **** The ol', when ordinary-reasoning-fails, turn-to-
>> pseudo-philosophy-routine
>> here eh :-)?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> And what does India lose? Assam? B'deshi cheap labor? Or the
>>> lungi menace?
>>> I am stumped ! Any help in sorting it out :-)?<<<
>>>
>>> I am equally stumped not by the brilliance of the argument but  
>>> rather
>>> lack of it.
>>
>>
>>
>> **** It was a QUESTION, looking for an answer, NOT an argument for or
>> against the proposition that brings so much consternation.
>> I can imagine why the answer is so elusive however.  It is another  
>> of those
>> confounding questions that many of our friends won't touch with a  
>> forty feet
>> pole, while flailing around it to no end, very similar to the  
>> question of
>> WHY it is good for India to hold on to Assam OR WHY it is bad for  
>> Assam to
>> be
>> free? I have been unable to entice even the most informed,  
>> articulate and
>> passionately anti-Assam-sovereignty friends of ours here to take  
>> that bait
>> in
>> all these years. Must be a scary-as-all-hell question, that :-)!
>>
>> But I leave both these sets of questions open--in case a daredevil
>> appears amongst the opponents and flexes her/his intellectual muscles
>> to take them on, instead of just-saying-no :-).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>> Should Assam become independent, it will be natural for Assam
>>>
>>> to be
>>> a part of such a federation too.<<<
>>>
>>> Why break away in the first place --only to join later? I just don't
>>> get this sort of hogwash:-)
>>
>>
>>
>> **** Um, let' s see now: Join later? Where did that come from? I  
>> don't
>> recall
>> that DD proposed any such thing or yours truly seconded or defended
>> or attempted to propagate the notion, UNLESS, this damned English
>> language is playing tricks again in desi-minds, making a federation  
>> seem
>> like a re-union. How I wished we could write in a language we all  
>> understand
>> equally well, in which a ' suktiboddho raastro xomuh' will not  
>> appear to be
>> the same
>> as a 'punor-xongjwjit-raastro' :-).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2010, at 6:55 PM, kamal deka wrote:
>>
>>>>>> There is no contradiction here. Not even by a long shot, obscure
>>>>>> American idioms or not.<<<
>>>
>>> Once you stop believing in shooting first and asking questions
>>> later,every obscurity will be clear and comprehensible.
>>>
>>>>>> But will it be a bad idea to TRY and make it happen?<<<
>>>
>>> I don't believe in building castles in the mirage.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> to gain from it, that its B'deshi migration problem might  get
>>>>>> alleviated.
>>>
>>> And what does India lose? Assam? B'deshi cheap labor? Or the
>>> lungi menace?
>>> I am stumped ! Any help in sorting it out :-)?<<<
>>>
>>> I am equally stumped not by the brilliance of the argument but  
>>> rather
>>> lack of it.When Assam's very existence will be on the verge of
>>> extinction,the question of illegal migration will remain out of the
>>> equation.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Should Assam become independent, it will be natural for Assam
>>>
>>> to be
>>> a part of such a federation too.<<<
>>>
>>> Why break away in the first place --only to join later? I just don't
>>> get this sort of hogwash:-)
>>>
>>> KJD
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> but I
>>>>>
>>>>> can say with certainty that this particular idiom is apt in  
>>>>> connection
>>>>> with the discussion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **** OK, since it is not about semantics, I  accept your verdict.
>>>> Having done that, let us now examine  the two competing sides,
>>>> the conflict from which some of us might have something to gain.
>>>>
>>>> Should India, Pakistan, B'desh, SriLanka, Bhutan and Nepal
>>>> get together in some sort of a federation, as I might be screaming
>>>> for them to do, what do *I* gain from that? Oh, yes Assam does have
>>>> something
>>>>  to gain from it, that its B'deshi migration problem might  get
>>>> alleviated.
>>>> And what does India lose? Assam? B'deshi cheap labor? Or the
>>>> lungi menace?
>>>>
>>>> I am stumped ! Any help in sorting it out :-)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I explained before the difference between ideal
>>>>>
>>>>> world and a real world.
>>>>
>>>> **** Surely I can appreciate that. The real world of India Pakistan
>>>> and B'desh reels from the centuries old Hindu-Muslim conflicts.
>>>> Thus for the three to set aside their blood feuds may take a lot of
>>>> doing.
>>>> And it may NOT  happen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But will it be a bad idea to TRY and make it happen?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> By getting together I don't mean or imply that they merge or  
>>>> attempt to
>>>> merge
>>>> into one country, re-unify. They should NOT.  It will be a bad  
>>>> idea.
>>>>  They
>>>> can remain separate
>>>> countries , but yet work together in many areas for mutual  
>>>> benefit, while
>>>> bringing
>>>> the ancient conflicts to an end.
>>>>
>>>> Ram alluded to the ancient hatreds that will prevent it from  
>>>> happening,
>>>> as
>>>> you do.
>>>> My point is that these hatreds are not something imprinted on the  
>>>> genes,
>>>> like perhaps
>>>> a caste might be :-).  And thus they can be reduced, if not  
>>>> eradicated.
>>>>  Surely it
>>>> will take leadership and farsightedness to affect it. It is a man  
>>>> made
>>>> condition and
>>>> thus man can rise to undo it, should they wish to.
>>>>
>>>> **** Now about  the purported dichotomy of my position espousing  
>>>> Assam
>>>> sovereignty:
>>>> There is none! Should Assam become independent, it will be  
>>>> natural for
>>>> Assam
>>>> to be
>>>> a part of such a federation too.
>>>>
>>>> **** It is not like I am advocating a secession of Assam on the  
>>>> one hand,
>>>> and on the other
>>>> advocating a re-union of India, B'desh Pakistan, Sri Lanka and  
>>>> Nepal.
>>>>  Just
>>>> like it is a good
>>>> idea for Pakistan, B'Desh, Nepal etc. to remain the masters of  
>>>> their own
>>>> destiny, so it is
>>>> for Assam.
>>>>
>>>> There is no contradiction here. Not even by a long shot, obscure  
>>>> American
>>>> idioms or not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 12, 2010, at 1:38 PM, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Obviously it is a case of a misapplied idiom<<<
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes,I may not have a good command over English idiom as you do,  
>>>>> but I
>>>>> can say with certainty that this particular idiom is apt in  
>>>>> connection
>>>>> with the discussion.I will never stand corrected.
>>>>> On one end of the spectrum,you are screaming on the idea that  
>>>>> these
>>>>> countries should join together to form a federation while on the
>>>>> opposite end,you support the ULFA's cause of India's  
>>>>> disintegration.
>>>>> This is what I call,once again,work both sides of the  
>>>>> street.What is
>>>>> good or bad in this? I explained before the difference between  
>>>>> ideal
>>>>> world and a real world.Why should anyone pursue a fool's errand?
>>>>> KJD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2010, at 5:36 PM, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again,it reminds me of a proverbial saying that goes---playing  
>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>> sides from the middle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *** You mean "playing both sides, AGAINST ( not from) the  
>>>>>> middle, right
>>>>>> :-)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But HOW does that apply in this situation? The idiom means:   
>>>>>> "---to try
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> make two
>>>>>> people or groups compete with each other in order to get an  
>>>>>> advantage
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> oneself"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *** Who are the two competing sides here, whom this bad person,  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> messenger,
>>>>>> is attempting to play against each other, to reap the benefits  
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> himself
>>>>>>  therefrom?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously it is a case of a misapplied idiom. But so be it. I  
>>>>>> won't
>>>>>> dwell
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But returning to the subject at hand, let us analyze what is  
>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> has two
>>>>>> parts:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      A:  Is the proposition GOOD, or beneficial, or has the  
>>>>>> potential
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> ameliorate,
>>>>>>      if not eradicate the problem, namely uncontrolled migration?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      B: If it is  good, then we will look into how to achieve  
>>>>>> it. If,
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the other hand,
>>>>>>      it is not a good idea, then we must examine WHY it is not  
>>>>>> a good
>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can't just demonize the proposition, because we do not trust  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> messenger or have
>>>>>> doubts about his motives. It is OK to doubt the motives, but  
>>>>>> since it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> NOT
>>>>>> about him,
>>>>>> we, as thinking people have to revert back to the fundamentals  
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> proposition, its
>>>>>> possible benefits or its absence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *** IF you think the proposition is an undesirable one, pray  
>>>>>> tell us
>>>>>> why.
>>>>>>  It could be bad.
>>>>>> But  you will have to tell us why it is bad or undesirable. The  
>>>>>> least
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> could do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *** IF it is NOT bad, then we go on to examine how to achieve it.
>>>>>>  Nobody
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> suggesting it
>>>>>> is a piece of cake. Obviously  it will be an uphill battle. But  
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be ways if there is the will.
>>>>>> That is the critical point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *** To denounce or demonize the proposition, just because one  
>>>>>> does not
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> the proposer
>>>>>> or has doubts about his motives, is not the reaction of a  
>>>>>> thoughtful
>>>>>> person.
>>>>>> It makes the critic look
>>>>>> like someone who does not really want to see a solution.  
>>>>>> Doesn't it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com 
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, let us see if we can DE-Mystify this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Allow me to agree that the mystifier here is a bad person, an
>>>>>>>> ULFA-Pal
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the image of say, a terrorist
>>>>>>>> pal like Obama as the great American intellectual Sarah Palin  
>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>> say.
>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>> he is just a messenger.  Is the
>>>>>>>> message he is carrying, sullied by his personal failings?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or is the message a bad one? An undesirable one?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IF, the message is bad, why so? Is it because it will harm  
>>>>>>>> India?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And if it is NOT a bad message, that it would not only be in  
>>>>>>>> (India's
>>>>>>>> interest, but also its neighbors, then
>>>>>>>> why tar-and-feather the message, pooh-pooh it, because of the
>>>>>>>> messenger's
>>>>>>>> personal failures?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would a thinking person, able or willing to reason, do that?   
>>>>>>>> Cut
>>>>>>>> his/her
>>>>>>>> own nose to spite the face?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That IS the question here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will we be blessed with an explanation?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 8:04 PM, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's exactly how an ULFA's pal engages himself in an  
>>>>>>>>> exercise
>>>>>>>>> called
>>>>>>>>> MYSTIFICATION!!
>>>>>>>>> Somebody,please let me know if there is a superior double  
>>>>>>>>> talker
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>> KJD
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Alpana B. Sarangapani
>>>>>>>>> <absarangapani at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that something? Some are visioning of one big united  
>>>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> are trying to  divide one little (or big) country that they  
>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Sushanta Kar <pragyan.tsc50 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:56:30
>>>>>>>>>> To: <assam at assamnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Assam] European Union and South Asian Federation
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is the Dream, most of the people is visioning these  
>>>>>>>>>> days.
>>>>>>>>>> People
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>  this region will sure go for it!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I support your proposal Dilipda!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Sushanta
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>>  From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>  Date: 10 June 2010 23:22
>>>>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [Assam] European Union and South Asian  
>>>>>>>>>> Federation
>>>>>>>>>>  To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from  
>>>>>>>>>> around the
>>>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>  assam at assamnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Precisely!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I am sure most netters have read european history and know  
>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>> viciously
>>>>>>>>>>  > the european tribes (and subsequently nations) fought for
>>>>>>>>>> centuries.
>>>>>>>>>> World
>>>>>>>>>>  > wars I and II were fought in Europe. If those people can  
>>>>>>>>>> form an
>>>>>>>>>> economic
>>>>>>>>>>  > and political union for the sake of survival, what is  
>>>>>>>>>> wrong in
>>>>>>>>>> expecting
>>>>>>>>>>  > India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (also Sri Lanka, Nepal  
>>>>>>>>>> and Bhutan
>>>>>>>>>> possibly)
>>>>>>>>>>  > to form a federation?
>>>>>>>>>>  > There are 27 members in the EU and it is growing.
>>>>>>>>>>  > Dilip
>>>>>>>>>>  >  
>>>>>>>>>> ===========================================================
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Member states
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > The continental territories of the member states of the  
>>>>>>>>>> European
>>>>>>>>>> Union
>>>>>>>>>>  > (European Communities pre-1993), animated in order of  
>>>>>>>>>> accession.
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Albania
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Austria
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Belarus
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Belgium
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Bos.
>>>>>>>>>>  > & Herz.
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Bulgaria
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Croatia
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Cyprus
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Czech
>>>>>>>>>>  > Rep.
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Denmark
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Estonia
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Finland
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > France
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Germany
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Greece
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Hungary
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Iceland
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Ireland
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Italy
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Latvia
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Lithuania
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Luxembourg
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Mac.
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Malta?
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Moldova
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Mont.
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Netherlands
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Norway
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Poland
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Portugal
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Romania
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Russia
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Serbia
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Slovakia
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Slovenia
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Spain
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Sweden
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >  Switz-
>>>>>>>>>>  > erland
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Turkey
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > Ukraine
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > United
>>>>>>>>>>  > Kingdom
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
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>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>  > European Union is composed of 27 sovereign Member States:
>>>>>>>>>> Austria,
>>>>>>>>>> Belgium,
>>>>>>>>>>  > Bulgaria, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia,  
>>>>>>>>>> Finland,
>>>>>>>>>> France,
>>>>>>>>>>  > Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia,  
>>>>>>>>>> Lithuania,
>>>>>>>>>> Luxembourg,
>>>>>>>>>>  > Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovak
>>>>>>>>>> Republic,
>>>>>>>>>>  > Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and the United Kingdom.[30]
>>>>>>>>>>  > The Union's membership has grown from the original six  
>>>>>>>>>> founding
>>>>>>>>>>  > states-Belgium, France, (then-West) Germany, Italy,  
>>>>>>>>>> Luxembourg
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>  > Netherlands-to the present day 27 by successive  
>>>>>>>>>> enlargements as
>>>>>>>>>> countries
>>>>>>>>>>  > acceded to the treaties and by doing so, pooled their
>>>>>>>>>> sovereignty
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>  > exchange for representation in the institutions.[31]
>>>>>>>>>>  > To join the EU a country must meet the Copenhagen  
>>>>>>>>>> criteria,
>>>>>>>>>> defined
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>  > 1993 Copenhagen European Council. These require a stable
>>>>>>>>>> democracy
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>  > respects human rights and the rule of law; a functioning  
>>>>>>>>>> market
>>>>>>>>>> economy
>>>>>>>>>>  > capable of competition within the EU; and the acceptance  
>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>> obligations
>>>>>>>>>>  > of membership, including EU law. Evaluation of a country's
>>>>>>>>>> fulfilment
>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>  > criteria is the responsibility of the European Council. 
>>>>>>>>>> [32]
>>>>>>>>>>  > No member state has ever left the Union, although  
>>>>>>>>>> Greenland (an
>>>>>>>>>> autonomous
>>>>>>>>>>  > province of Denmark) withdrew in 1985. The Lisbon Treaty  
>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>> provides
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>  > clause dealing with how a member leaves the EU.
>>>>>>>>>>  > There are three official candidate countries, Croatia,  
>>>>>>>>>> Macedonia
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>  > Turkey. Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro,  
>>>>>>>>>> Serbia and
>>>>>>>>>> Iceland are
>>>>>>>>>>  > officially recognised as potential candidates.[33]  
>>>>>>>>>> Kosovo is
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>> listed as
>>>>>>>>>>  > a potential candidate but the European Commission does  
>>>>>>>>>> not list
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>  > independent country because not all member states  
>>>>>>>>>> recognise it
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>  > independent country separate from Serbia.[34]
>>>>>>>>>>  > Four Western European countries that have chosen not to  
>>>>>>>>>> join the
>>>>>>>>>> EU
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>  > partly committed to the EU's economy and regulations:  
>>>>>>>>>> Iceland,
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> has now
>>>>>>>>>>  > applied for membership, Liechtenstein and Norway, which  
>>>>>>>>>> are a
>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>  > single market through the European Economic Area, and
>>>>>>>>>> Switzerland,
>>>>>>>>>> which has
>>>>>>>>>>  > similar ties through bilateral treaties.[35][36] The
>>>>>>>>>> relationships
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>  > European microstates, Andorra, Monaco, San Marino and the
>>>>>>>>>> Vatican
>>>>>>>>>> include
>>>>>>>>>>  > the use of the euro and other areas of co-operation.[37]
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>>  Sushnta Kar
>>>>>>>>>>  ??????? ??
>>>>>>>>>>  ??????????, ????
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ???? ????????:
>>>>>>>>>>  http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>  http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>  http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>  ???? ???????? '????????'
>>>>>>>>>>  http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>  http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>> "??????????? ??????? ???? ?????? ????? ???????, ????? ????? ??????
>>>>>>>>>> ??????"
>>>>>>>>>>  ???????????
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