[Assam] ‘I Am An Assamese, A Bengali And A S ylheti. What Exactly Am I?’ Anurag Rudra'a write up appeared Tehelka
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at gmail.com
Wed Jun 16 04:50:54 PDT 2010
**** I would be heartbroken if it were not so hilarious to read this
piece.
English language the problem here? Heck no, it is the dishonesty
of the out-of-control attempt at spin. That is where the problem is.
Read on:
>No one, KJD nor I have said that there was "SUPPORT" for either the
Dhemaji
> killings or that of the Biharis.
>
> The discussion (I presume KJD) brought up was regarding "HUMANISM".
> If I
> understood it correct, KJD was questioning as to why the SAME
> HUMANISM now
> shown at the drop of a hat, was totally absent when the Biharis were
> killed.
*** What it clearly shows here is that since the Indianistas, the true
humanists here, did not
witness the accused Assam independence supporter , begging forgiveness
for the transgressions
of the ULFA, he must condone, if not support, the killing of Biharis
or whatever other such aberration!
What an enlightened piece of logic, this!
But it really is yet another, perfectly IDIOTIC argument.
Imagine this 'odhom' ( despicable one) accusing Ram or Kamal of
condoning all those acts
of Indian violence against the many people of Assam and the contiguous
region, because
I have not heard them raising their voices against those, not to
mention such arguments
justifying them because India is there at Assam's invitation!
> The incident was reported all over the place, and so now it seems
> there was
> indeed a deafening silence, from folks who are very vocal otherwise.
*** What if the Indian apologists were/are either blind or deaf or
both? Is it possible?
Or is it that they keep tab of who said when about what to prove or
disprove someone's
allegiances or ideals? And if they did not see or hear something to
the contrary, they
are free to convict the perceived defaulters of condoning those
transgressions ?
How bizarre!
And these are the same people who have the audacity to argue about the
rule of law.
> It does seem there is a dichotomy here. On the one hand, some are
> desperate
> to severe Assam from India, but are gung ho about uniting the world,
> erase
> borders of feuding countries, hug the Pakistanis, and so on. But not
> so,
> when it comes to Assam/Delhi/ULFA.
*** Where is the dichotomy here? How does support for Assam's
aspirations for sovereignty
conflict with working together with neighboring, SOVEREIGN countries
to ease pressures of
illegal migration and other such problems?
Speak of a language problem!
Who ever suggested UNITING the world? Who ever recommended erasing of
borders?
Are these rational arguments or attempts at fabricating fiction to
hide one's own little problems
like the fear of "-- hugging Pakistanis"?
> I don't support illegal B'deshis crawling all
> over the place into Assam.
*** Of course not. After all they are not even human. The CRAWL around
for crying out loud!
Perfect example of the use of language to rob people of their
humanity, an ancient tactic of despots and ethnic cleansers.
> For that matter, I don't like illegal Greeks
> going to Assam or any other part of India.
**** How about all those ILLEGAL Indians 'CRAWLING' all over America?
I have not heard
any denouncement of them by these same folks with the same vitriol. Have
other assamnetters? And if they have not, should that, by the same
toargument, be construed
to be an act of SUPPORT , by default, of such illegal immigration to
America ?
> But, unfortunately, every time
> this issue is raised, we are cast as "Muslim -Haters" or lungi
> haters. That
> is really, really sad!
**** Tsk, tsk! Here I am, a grown man, left in tears .
On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> Now, it's my turn - it's the damn English language again :-)
>
> No one, KJD nor I have said that there was "SUPPORT" for either the
> Dhemaji
> killings or that of the Biharis.
>
> The discussion (I presume KJD) brought up was regarding "HUMANISM".
> If I
> understood it correct, KJD was questioning as to why the SAME
> HUMANISM now
> shown at the drop of a hat, was totally absent when the Biharis were
> killed.
>
> The incident was reported all over the place, and so now it seems
> there was
> indeed a deafening silence, from folks who are very vocal otherwise.
>
> It's not about "Support", it is the absence of showing the same
> level of
> 'humanism' in some instances, while not in others. That is why it is
> "Selective Humanism".
>
> It does seem there is a dichotomy here. On the one hand, some are
> desperate
> to severe Assam from India, but are gung ho about uniting the world,
> erase
> borders of feuding countries, hug the Pakistanis, and so on. But not
> so,
> when it comes to Assam/Delhi/ULFA.
>
>> What is KJD's primary ID or what is RS's? Are they Americans first,
> Hindus, Indians, Assamese. Muslim-hater :-), ---- what?
>
> Really, what does this mean? I don't support illegal B'deshis
> crawling all
> over the place into Assam. For that matter, I don't like illegal
> Greeks
> going to Assam or any other part of India. But, unfortunately, every
> time
> this issue is raised, we are cast as "Muslim -Haters" or lungi
> haters. That
> is really, really sad!
>
> But these are the tactics that one often has to resort to - assign
> labels,
> and hope they labels stick.
>
> --Ram
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>>
>> Did CM support killing of the Biharis or the blast in Dhemaji,
>> though it
>>> is quite apparent that he supports ULFA's cause?
>>>
>>
>>
>> **** If one is desperate enough to find some some reason to devalue
>> the
>> idea that
>> one's humanity is the most important of identities, then it is easy
>> to jump
>> to such conclusions.
>> But it would be a mindless one. Imagine KJD or RS's support of all
>> things
>> Indian meaning they also
>> support the Indian army's atrocities over civilians.
>>
>> **** That also leads one to wonder if giving one's human identity the
>> primacy is merely a ploy to look
>> good, then what could be better , more honest identities ? What is
>> KJD's
>> primary ID or what is RS's? Are they
>> Americans first, Hindus, Indians, Assamese. Muslim-hater :-), ----
>> what?
>>
>> Why am I mixing up national identity with religious you might ask?
>> For the
>> simple reason of KJD invoking
>> Erikson's ID confusion about being a Norwegian or a Jew. How much
>> more
>> confused can one get?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I do not support ULFA's cause, thus I do not have a dog in this
>> fight.
>>> Dilip, Houston TX
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>> world <
>>> assam at assamnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 9:11:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] ‘I Am An Assamese, A Bengali And A S ylheti.
>>> What
>>> Exactly Am I?’ Anurag Rudra'a write up appeared Tehelka
>>>
>>> KJD,
>>>
>>> However,the same humanist failed to raise a whimper,when
>>>> ULFA-engineered massacre of poor Biharis took place in Assam.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hehehe, that is what one would call 'selective humanism'.
>>>
>>> But it's OK, one has to give a lot of leeway for folks :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> --Ram
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:39 PM, kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> are absolutely correct in saying, you are what
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> you choose to be - ie. defining yourself.<<<
>>>>
>>>> RS,
>>>> All of a sudden,humanist of mega size seems to be appearing in this
>>>> Net,who now lays the claim that his first identity is nothing but a
>>>> human being.However,the same humanist failed to raise a
>>>> whimper,when
>>>> ULFA-engineered massacre of poor Biharis took place in Assam.For
>>>> him,it seems,everything pales into insignificance,when it comes
>>>> to the
>>>> question of ULFA.Is he trying to give his falsehood the gloss of
>>>> moral
>>>> sanction now? He can no longer fool people with his veneer of
>>>> gentility!!!
>>>> All this is a mystery to me,really.
>>>> KJD
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Ram Sarangapani
>>>> <assamrs at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great assessment, Mohan. You are absolutely correct in saying,
>>>>> you are
>>>>>
>>>> what
>>>>
>>>>> you choose to be - ie. defining yourself. The write-up by Anurag
>>>>> is
>>>>> well-written & from the heart, and most netters will be able to
>>>>> relate
>>>>> to
>>>>> something or the other in what he wrote.
>>>>>
>>>>> But to more important questions: How did you grow bhaat kerela &
>>>>> ou
>>>>>
>>>> tenga?
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think we have seen either of these in this area :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best of luck to Anurag, and hope to see more of his writings in
>>>>> future.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Ram
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Mohan Palleti <mpalleti at aol.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Anurag:
>>>>>> This is beautifully written article. I liked the honest
>>>>>> expression
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> your feelings.
>>>>>> I being a half telugu and a half assamese by birth, I could
>>>>>> relate very
>>>>>> well with you. I lived in Assam as a young child and moved to
>>>>>> Hyderabad
>>>>>> therafter. I had asked the same question to myself. What am I?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The answer is very simple. You are what you choose to be. And
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>> process you do not have to forget where you came from. You set
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> trend
>>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>> the coming generations and you blend into a culture you choose to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We lived in Hyderabad since 1973, And yet our house was a
>>>>>> waterhole for
>>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> lot of Assamese folks who visited Hyderabad. My mother passed
>>>>> away a few
>>>>>> months ago. She was like a moher to a lot of young assamese
>>>>>> folks who
>>>>>>
>>>>> live
>>>>
>>>>> and work in Hyderabad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although I have been living in the US for over a decade and
>>>>>> speak 4
>>>>>> different languages at home. I grow dhekia xaak, bhat kerela,
>>>>>> ou tenga
>>>>>>
>>>>> in my
>>>>
>>>>> garden and have loads of Khorisa in my referigerator. It wont
>>>>> be hard
>>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>> you to guess what I consider myself to be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope you get to read this email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>> Mohan Palleti
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com <lt%3Bcmahanta at gmail.com
>>>>>> > <
>>>>>> lt%3Bcmahanta at gmail.com <lt%253Bcmahanta at gmail.com>> <
>>>>>>
>>>>> lt%3Bcmahanta at gmail.com <lt%253Bcmahanta at gmail.com> <
>>>> lt%253Bcmahanta at gmail.com <lt%25253Bcmahanta at gmail.com>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around
>>>>> the world
>>>>>>
>>>>> &
>>>>
>>>>> lt;assam at assamnet.org <lt%3Bassam at assamnet.org> <
>>>>>> lt%3Bassam at assamnet.org <lt%253Bassam at assamnet.org>> <
>>>>>>
>>>>> lt%3Bassam at assamnet.org <lt%253Bassam at assamnet.org> <
>>>> lt%253Bassam at assamnet.org <lt%25253Bassam at assamnet.org>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 9:53 am
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] ‘I Am An Assamese, A Bengali And A S
>>>>>> ylheti. What
>>>>>> Exactly Am I?’ Anurag Rudra'a write up appeared Tehelka
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a believable, poignant story, Sushanta. Thanks for
>>>>>> sharing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The indignities that young Anurag had to endure, hopefully,
>>>>>> were not in
>>>>>> vain and his account,
>>>>>> hopefully would help turn things for the better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many of us in this forum have worn different shoes. And we too
>>>>>> wore the
>>>>>> ones that
>>>>>> Anurag had worn,at times of being a minority, foreign, alien
>>>>>> etc. and
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> times of a dominant
>>>>>> group wearing the halo of being an indigenous. It has helped us
>>>>>> become
>>>>>> fuller, better people.
>>>>>> That said, I do realize that those of us in the US or other
>>>>>> counties
>>>>>>
>>>>> with a
>>>>
>>>>> rule of law have not, would not
>>>>>> ( except as rare exceptions) have to undergo some of the more
>>>>>> blatant
>>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> overt acts
>>>>>> of discrimination, bullying or even physical assaults that
>>>>>> someone in
>>>>>> Anurag's shoes might have.
>>>>>> That is where the rule-of-law plays a critical role, one that
>>>>>> is absent
>>>>>>
>>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>> Indian governance, not
>>>>>> just Assam's, part of the dysfunctional state of desi-demokrasy
>>>>>> as I
>>>>>>
>>>>> call
>>>>
>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with MM's advice: To be positive and ASSERTIVE. He has no
>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>>> confused about his many identities, much less be apologetic.
>>>>>> Long ago,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> learned
>>>>>> to choose my first and foremost identity to be the human one.
>>>>>> My many
>>>>>>
>>>>> other
>>>>
>>>>> identities
>>>>>> fall into place, without conflict and without apologies!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pass this on to Anurag, if you can. I wish him all the best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> c-da
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Sushanta Kar wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Dear
>>>>>> > Friends,
>>>>>> > You will find this write up something interesting. Anurag
>>>>>> is a B.A
>>>>>> > student
>>>>>> > of Cotton College. By this time he has earned a well
>>>>>> reputation as
>>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> > poet in
>>>>>> > English. Here he has raised a few question on the identity
>>>>>> crisis
>>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> > the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > sylhetis of the state:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.tehelka.com/story_main45.asp?filename=hub190610personalhistories.asp
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sushanta Kar
>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>> > assam mailing list
>>>>>> > assam at assamnet.org
>>>>>> > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
>>>>>>
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