[Assam] ‘I Am An Assamese, A Bengali And A S ylheti. What Exactly Am I?’ Anurag Rudra'a write up appeared Tehelka

kamal deka kjit.deka at gmail.com
Wed Jun 16 16:25:08 PDT 2010 

RS,
I could not have said better than this.
All these drivels with respect to human/humanity/humanism are nothing
but hackneyed slogans.
All those viewpoints with respect to identity has come across to me as
phony and contrived.
Let me magnify on the point of " support".Unless one allows one's
intelligence to go to sleep,there should not be a problem of Himalayan
proportion to make out as to what I was relating to.
I am astonished,our distinguished netter has omitted the key
difference between ' psychiatry' and ' psycosocial'.
Well,mendacity of their reasoning knows no bounds.
KJD

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com> wrote:
> Now, it's my turn - it's the damn English language again :-)
>
> No one, KJD nor I have said that there was "SUPPORT" for either the Dhemaji
> killings or that of the Biharis.
>
> The discussion (I presume KJD) brought up was regarding "HUMANISM". If I
> understood it correct, KJD was questioning as to why the SAME HUMANISM now
> shown at the drop of a hat,  was totally absent when the Biharis were
> killed.
>
> The incident was reported all over the place, and so now it seems there was
> indeed a deafening silence, from folks who are very vocal otherwise.
>
> It's not about "Support", it is the absence of showing the same level of
> 'humanism' in some instances, while not in others. That is why it is
> "Selective Humanism".
>
> It does seem there is a dichotomy here. On the one hand, some are desperate
> to severe Assam from India, but are gung ho about uniting the world, erase
> borders of feuding countries, hug the Pakistanis, and so on. But not so,
> when it comes to Assam/Delhi/ULFA.
>
>>What is KJD's primary ID or what is RS's?  Are they Americans first,
> Hindus,  Indians, Assamese. Muslim-hater :-), ---- what?
>
> Really, what does this mean? I don't support illegal B'deshis crawling all
> over the place into Assam. For that matter, I don't like illegal Greeks
> going to Assam or any other part of India. But, unfortunately, every time
> this issue is raised, we are cast as "Muslim -Haters" or lungi haters. That
> is really, really sad!
>
> But these are the tactics that one often has to resort to - assign labels,
> and hope they labels stick.
>
> --Ram
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>>
>>  Did CM support killing of the Biharis or the blast in Dhemaji, though it
>>> is quite apparent that he supports ULFA's cause?
>>>
>>
>>
>> **** If one is desperate enough to find some some reason to devalue the
>> idea  that
>> one's humanity is the most important of identities, then it is easy to jump
>> to such conclusions.
>> But it would be a mindless one. Imagine KJD or RS's support of all things
>> Indian meaning they also
>> support the Indian army's atrocities over civilians.
>>
>> **** That also leads one to wonder if giving one's human identity the
>> primacy is merely a ploy to look
>> good, then what could be better , more honest identities ? What is KJD's
>> primary ID or what is RS's?  Are they
>> Americans first, Hindus,  Indians, Assamese. Muslim-hater :-), ---- what?
>>
>> Why am I mixing up national identity with religious you might ask?  For the
>> simple reason of KJD invoking
>> Erikson's ID confusion about being a Norwegian or a Jew.  How much more
>> confused can one get?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  I do not support ULFA's cause, thus I do not have a dog in this fight.
>>> Dilip, Houston TX
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <
>>> assam at assamnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tue, June 15, 2010 9:11:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] ‘I Am An Assamese, A Bengali And A S ylheti. What
>>> Exactly Am I?’ Anurag Rudra'a write up appeared Tehelka
>>>
>>> KJD,
>>>
>>>  However,the same humanist failed to raise a whimper,when
>>>> ULFA-engineered massacre of poor Biharis took place in Assam.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hehehe, that is what one would call 'selective humanism'.
>>>
>>> But it's OK, one has to give a lot of leeway for folks :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> --Ram
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:39 PM, kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  are absolutely correct in saying, you are what
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> you choose to be - ie. defining yourself.<<<
>>>>
>>>> RS,
>>>> All of a sudden,humanist of mega size seems to be appearing in this
>>>> Net,who now lays the claim that his first identity is nothing but a
>>>> human being.However,the same humanist failed to raise a whimper,when
>>>> ULFA-engineered massacre of poor Biharis took place in Assam.For
>>>> him,it seems,everything pales into insignificance,when it comes to the
>>>> question of ULFA.Is he trying to give his falsehood the gloss of moral
>>>> sanction now? He can no longer fool people with his veneer of
>>>> gentility!!!
>>>> All this is a mystery to me,really.
>>>> KJD
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great assessment,  Mohan. You are absolutely correct in saying, you are
>>>>>
>>>> what
>>>>
>>>>> you choose to be - ie. defining yourself. The write-up by Anurag is
>>>>> well-written & from the heart, and most netters will be able to relate
>>>>> to
>>>>> something or the other in what he wrote.
>>>>>
>>>>> But to more important questions: How did you grow bhaat kerela & ou
>>>>>
>>>> tenga?
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think we have seen either of these in this area :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best of luck to Anurag, and hope to see more of his writings in future.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Ram
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Mohan Palleti <mpalleti at aol.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Anurag:
>>>>>> This is beautifully written article. I liked the honest expression
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> your feelings.
>>>>>> I being a half telugu and a half assamese by birth, I could relate very
>>>>>> well with you. I lived in Assam as a young child and moved to Hyderabad
>>>>>> therafter. I had asked the same question to myself. What am I?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The answer is very simple. You are what you choose to be. And in the
>>>>>> process you do not have to forget where you came from. You set the
>>>>>> trend
>>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>> the coming generations and you blend into a culture you choose to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We lived in Hyderabad since 1973, And yet our house was a waterhole for
>>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> lot of Assamese folks who visited Hyderabad. My mother passed away a few
>>>>>> months ago. She was like a moher to a lot of young assamese folks who
>>>>>>
>>>>> live
>>>>
>>>>> and work in Hyderabad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although I have been living in the US for over a decade and speak 4
>>>>>> different languages at home. I grow dhekia xaak, bhat kerela, ou tenga
>>>>>>
>>>>> in my
>>>>
>>>>> garden and have loads of Khorisa  in my referigerator. It wont be hard
>>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>> you to guess what I consider myself to be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope you get to read this email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>> Mohan Palleti
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com <lt%3Bcmahanta at gmail.com> <
>>>>>> lt%3Bcmahanta at gmail.com <lt%253Bcmahanta at gmail.com>> <
>>>>>>
>>>>> lt%3Bcmahanta at gmail.com <lt%253Bcmahanta at gmail.com> <
>>>> lt%253Bcmahanta at gmail.com <lt%25253Bcmahanta at gmail.com>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
>>>>>>
>>>>> &
>>>>
>>>>> lt;assam at assamnet.org <lt%3Bassam at assamnet.org> <
>>>>>> lt%3Bassam at assamnet.org <lt%253Bassam at assamnet.org>> <
>>>>>>
>>>>> lt%3Bassam at assamnet.org <lt%253Bassam at assamnet.org> <
>>>> lt%253Bassam at assamnet.org <lt%25253Bassam at assamnet.org>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Sent: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 9:53 am
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] ‘I Am An Assamese, A Bengali And A S ylheti. What
>>>>>> Exactly Am I?’ Anurag Rudra'a write up appeared Tehelka
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a believable, poignant story, Sushanta. Thanks for sharing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The indignities that young Anurag had to endure, hopefully, were not in
>>>>>> vain and his account,
>>>>>> hopefully would help turn things for the better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many of us in this forum have worn different shoes. And we too wore the
>>>>>> ones that
>>>>>> Anurag had worn,at times of being a minority, foreign, alien etc. and
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> times of a dominant
>>>>>> group wearing the halo of being an indigenous. It has helped us become
>>>>>> fuller, better people.
>>>>>> That said, I do realize that those of us in the US or other counties
>>>>>>
>>>>> with a
>>>>
>>>>> rule of law have not, would not
>>>>>> ( except as rare exceptions) have to undergo some of the more blatant
>>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> overt acts
>>>>>> of discrimination, bullying or even physical assaults that someone in
>>>>>> Anurag's shoes might have.
>>>>>> That is where the rule-of-law plays a critical role, one that is absent
>>>>>>
>>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>> Indian governance, not
>>>>>> just Assam's, part of the dysfunctional state of desi-demokrasy as I
>>>>>>
>>>>> call
>>>>
>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with MM's advice: To be positive and ASSERTIVE. He has no
>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>>> confused about his many identities, much less be apologetic. Long ago,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> learned
>>>>>> to choose my first and foremost identity to be the human one. My many
>>>>>>
>>>>> other
>>>>
>>>>> identities
>>>>>> fall into place, without conflict and without apologies!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pass this on to Anurag, if you can. I wish him all the best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> c-da
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Sushanta Kar wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Dear
>>>>>> > Friends,
>>>>>> > You will find this write up something interesting. Anurag is a B.A
>>>>>> > student
>>>>>> > of Cotton College. By this time he has earned a well reputation as
>>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> > poet in
>>>>>> > English. Here he has raised a few question on the identity crisis
>>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> > the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > sylhetis of the state:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.tehelka.com/story_main45.asp?filename=hub190610personalhistories.asp
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sushanta Kar
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