[Assam] Armed Revolution is an Outdated Concept

Chan Mahanta cmahanta at gmail.com
Mon May 24 09:26:17 PDT 2010


 >You are apprehensive that I will again take you to a point where you  
have no answers to some unpleasant questions ... like what you are  
avoiding now .

*** Actually I am shaking in my flip-flops as I write.

But let us not change the subject. Where and when did I say or write  
or implt, what you attributed to me.

Fabricating something that is patently a fraud does not constitute  
mocking. It is called slander.

People with honor and integrity own up to transgressions when it is  
pointed out .







On May 24, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:

> I can see your reason for coming down so heavily .   You are  
> apprehensive that I will again take you to a point where you have no  
> answers to some unpleasant questions ... like what you are avoiding  
> now .  You just picked that one point to brush aside all other  
> questions which I have raised.
>
> Let me make it clear --   it is NOT a fault of Assamnet -- it is a  
> lack of feature due to which one need more time to find a post.  And  
> I have mentioned what is there in that post.
>
> In my post,  I said "yes you did not say   these exact words" ,   if  
> that is not "integrity to admit it"  I  sure need to learn what  
> "integrity to admit" means.
>
>  I have explained -- I was mocking your never ending "put the blame  
> on GOI"  and "ULFA is all saint"
> But, let me point to one of your the numerous  white lies YOU have  
> come up with time to time -- http://assamnet.org/pipermail/assam_assamnet.org/2007-October/015731.html 
>      where you claimed that RSS is in US Terror list  (and ULFA and  
> RSS are just the same category !).   I do not remember you  admiting  
> that you lied.
> Probably you can teach me with examples what  "integrity to admit"   
> means ... I am learning everyday :)
>
> Just one of numerous cases ...  What a shame! Very unbecoming.
>
>
> BTW,  don't ever think that your scare tactics  will stop me asking  
> unpleasant questions ... pointing to flaws in your arguments .
>
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>> Unfortunately,  Assamnet does not have a search feature but I
> promise I will find and post the exact words as I manage some time.
> *** Is it therefore the fault of assamnet?
> It now established that the attribute was a pure fabrication, a bald
> faced lie.  But you cannot muster that bit of integrity
> to admit it, instead blaming it on assamnet for not having the search
> engine, for if it did, you surely would have dug-up the
> evidence.
> What a shame! Very unbecoming.
>
>
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> On May 24, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:
>> I am honored to see that I am placed in same row as many others
>> including Kamath and those who are supporting his article . All are
>> perfect idiots.   I am sure there are plenty of Idiots around whom
>> you would not like.
>>
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>> Why are you shying from the point .... have you, the champion of
>> human rights,  ever criticized ULFA (or maoists) for killing
>> innocents ?  And if not  what is the reason ?
>>
>> Coming to exact point (on what you said) ,  yes you did not say
>> these exact words ....  I was mocking what you actually said --- you
>> actually put the blame of killing these children on GOI -- you said
>> GOI is responsible for sending these children.  And as we have seen
>> in this net for years  ,  you will use all your twisting to  put the
>> blame on GOI even if it means going to an absurd level.
>>
>> Unfortunately,  Assamnet does not have a search feature but I
>> promise I will find and post the exact words as I manage some time.
>>
>> But that does not dilute my questions to Susanta (and you,  you were
>> gaga on Susanta's comment) --  if one is to show Gandhism to those
>> who killed children or villagers why one should not show Gandhism to
>> a rapist or a murderer ?
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>>> (oh well C'da says they were not children but
>>> camoflauged  Indian killers )
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>> *** That is presented as a quote from myself.
>>
>> Is it something I said or even implied? Show netters when or where  
>> you
>> saw that coming from me.
>>
>> Fact is, it is a malicious fabrication of the basest kind. A bald
>> faced lie.
>>
>> People who are able to articulate a credible opposing view do not  
>> need
>> to resort to such tactics of fabricating
>> false statements to counter something one does not agree with. It  
>> is a
>> thoroughly dishonorable pursuit.
>>
>> But I can appreciate the fact that such things as honor, personal
>> integrity etc. are not necessary
>> accouterments even of  degrees with pedigree.
>>
>>
>>> but I do not remember seeing any words of criticizm for ULFA.
>>
>> *** Is that therefore your PROOF  that I said what you claim I did?
>> Only a perfect IDIOT  would make such a claim.
>> I have seen only one other assamnetter make such arguments in my
>> entire tenure here spanning
>> nearly 15 years.
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>> On May 24, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:
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>>> I will be happy to be proved as a liar ... but that means ULFA
>>> killed innocent civillians/children.  Did I ever see ANY words of
>>> criticizm from you ?  You are all over on human rights violation and
>>> what not  but I do not remember seeing any words of criticizm for
>>> ULFA.
>>> Double standards ?
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>>>> (oh well C'da says they were not children but camoflauged  Indian
>>> killers )
>>>
>>> No need to be bald faced liar in attributing such a statement to me.
>>>
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>>> On May 22, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure you are finding a strong supporter in C'da  but let me ask --
>>>> does "Armed Suppression by the state"  exist in every state of
>>>> India  or is it in certain states/regions ?  If it is in certain
>>>> regions ,  why is it needed ? Just because GOI do not like the
>>>> people of some region ?
>>>>     You are asking to show Gandhiism to some people who killed
>>>> children
>>>> in Dhemaji (oh well C'da says they were not children but
>>>> camoflauged  Indian killers )  or those who killed a bus load of
>>>> common villagers ?
>>>> Show me one country where such Gandhiism exist.
>>>> What about showing Gandhiism to a thief or murderer or rapist ?   
>>>> Why
>>>> have police and courts ?  The world can run on Gandhiism .
>>>>
>>>> *******************
>>>> "No mercy should be shown to them. Their headquarters have to be
>>>> bombed. An
>>>> organization responsible for the killing of upwards of 6,000
>>>> innocent people
>>>> from 1996 to 2009 has to be wiped out of the surface of the earth."
>>>> "Armed Suppression by the state should be outdated first to make
>>>> Armed Revolution  Outdated" It's not a theory but possibly can be
>>>> termed as
>>>> a natural law.
>>>> That's all !
>>>> What a country we have! we fought British following Gandhian way,
>>>> but we
>>>> talk to fight our own people  with Arms---forget Gandhism  ! Our
>>>> state
>>>> doesn't follow Gandhism, just use it to  advice people!
>>>> Sushanta Kar
>>>> On 22 May 2010 09:02, UTTAM BORTHAKUR <uttamborthakur at
>>>> yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>>>> Armed revolts are stated to be outdated; the statement is not new.
>>>>> But, what we find is it continues to this modern day.
>>>>> Kamath trying to shoo a nagging bee away with his wishy-washy.
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