[Air-L] facebook, twitter and annoyances

[Edward M. Corrado]

I am not a gender expert nor female but without a doubt photos that I  
post on Facebook of whatever it is I made for dinner get more comments  
than anything else. Although I never analyzed it, on the surface  
comments appear to contain the same type of content and are in similar  
numbers regaurdless of gender.  I think it might be as simple as  
people like food.

Edward

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On Nov 1, 2009, at 4:59 AM, Caroline Haythornthwaite <haythorn at illinois.edu 
 > wrote:

> I suspect that food discussion -- as in daily food activity,  
> preparation, recipe sharing, etc. -- is an aspect of female oriented  
> discussion. It wraps in issues of domesticity, caring for others, etc.
>
> Gender experts may now jump in!
>
> /Caroline
>
> ---- Original message ----
>> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:51:52 -0700
>> From: KMV <cuuixsilver at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Air-L] facebook, twitter and annoyances
>> To: aoir list <air-l at aoir.org>
>>
>> Food posts are surprisingly compelling; when I post and update in FB
>> about things I'm baking or cooking, especially if they involve  
>> sweets,
>> I get more comments than on almost any other kind of update.  Food is
>> an interest almost everyone shares, and what people eat can be pretty
>> revealing of their personality and day-to-day life.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Baym, Nancy <nbaym at ku.edu> wrote:
>>> But there are often hundreds of others with differing interests  
>>> and more may
>>> care what someone ate than you think. The Other is not a monolith  
>>> that
>>> agrees on the value of all posts.
>>>
>>> I am often surprised how much I enjoy food posts of people to whom  
>>> I am not
>>> close and how bored I am by things that are "supposed" to be  
>>> "interesting."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2009, at 4:57 PM, "Barry Wellman" <wellman at chass.utoronto.ca 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OTOH, You do have to take the role of the other.
>>>>
>>>> And who the heck cares that you had eggs for breakfast, other  
>>>> than you and
>>>> your partner?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Barry Wellman
>>>> _______________________________________________________________________
 

>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> Director
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>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, danah boyd wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:03:56 -0400
>>>>> From: danah boyd <aoir.z3z at danah.org>
>>>>> To: Barry Wellman <wellman at chass.utoronto.ca>
>>>>> Cc: "Baym, Nancy" <nbaym at ku.edu>, aoir list <air-l at aoir.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Air-L] facebook, twitter and annoyances
>>>>>
>>>>> Life isn't so neatly compartmentalized.  Remove the internet for a
>>>>> moment.  My guess is that you have dear friends who are sometimes
>>>>> brilliant to speak with and sometimes, not so much.  You don't  
>>>>> reject
>>>>> them as friends just because not all of the conversations are
>>>>> brilliant.  Likewise, you have colleagues who you have intensely
>>>>> philosophical debates with but, when standing in line for lunch,  
>>>>> the
>>>>> conversation centers around something else. We can value people  
>>>>> for
>>>>> just one facet of their lives but our friends and other  
>>>>> intimates are
>>>>> more than that.  Of course, perhaps you have friends who could  
>>>>> never
>>>>> stop talking about their kids so you stopped inviting them to  
>>>>> dinner
>>>>> parties.  This happens too.  But none of our strong connections  
>>>>> with
>>>>> people are truly always on topic.  We just easily forget the  
>>>>> chitter
>>>>> chatter and remember the deeply meaningful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we should be asking ourselves: Why is it that, when we go
>>>>> online, we want to optimize for the brilliant conversations  
>>>>> only?  Why
>>>>> do we want to reduce our connections down to only one facet? Is  
>>>>> this
>>>>> because of the asynchronicity?  Is it because of our self-
>>>>> involvement?  Or something else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I like the peripheral awareness that's baked into  
>>>>> status
>>>>> updates.  Sure, some of what you say is brilliant, but mostly I  
>>>>> like
>>>>> the tempo of the connection, the reminder of personality and  
>>>>> quirks,
>>>>> the feeling of being part of humanity even when I'm sitting in my
>>>>> living room.
>>>>>
>>>>> danah
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 31, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Barry Wellman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> sounds like we need multiple twitter accounts.
>>>>>> but life may not be so neatly compartmentalized;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how do you feel about Oscar Wilde.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Barry Wellman
>>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________
 

>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> S.D. Clark Professor of Sociology, FRSC               NetLab  
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Department of Sociology                  725 Spadina Avenue,  
>>>>>> Room 388
>>>>>> University of Toronto   Toronto Canada M5S 2J4    
>>>>>> twitter:barrywellman
>>>>>> http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman             fax:+1-416-978-3963
>>>>>> Updating history:      http://chass.utoronto.ca/oldnew/cybertimes.php
>>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________
 

>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Baym, Nancy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:34:00 -0500
>>>>>>> From: "Baym, Nancy" <nbaym at ku.edu>
>>>>>>> To: Barry Wellman <wellman at chass.utoronto.ca>
>>>>>>> Cc: aoir list <air-l at aoir.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Air-L] facebook, twitter and annoyances
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course it's complex. But what if another of that person's
>>>>>>> followers
>>>>>>> funds the food updates a lovely way to feel connected but is  
>>>>>>> annoyed
>>>>>>> by all those professionally tinged informational links.  
>>>>>>> "Interesting"
>>>>>>> is not a quality of message but of a particular listener's  
>>>>>>> response
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> a message. "Almost all" is often an unwarranted assumption  
>>>>>>> from one's
>>>>>>> own point of view. Furthermore, even if "almost all" holds,  
>>>>>>> they may
>>>>>>> not be the people most important to the tweeter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nancy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 31, 2009, at 10:06 AM, "Barry Wellman"
>>>>>>> <wellman at chass.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Nancy, I think it is more complex. What if there are really
>>>>>>>> interesting people whose posts are often filled with gems,  
>>>>>>>> but at
>>>>>>>> the same
>>>>>>>> posts some self-infatuated or status update stuff ("going for
>>>>>>>> breakfast")
>>>>>>>> ("sitting in my garden") stuff which is not interesting to  
>>>>>>>> almost
>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>> http://www.danah.org/
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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