[Air-l] Downloading music

[Jeremy Hunsinger]

hmm, no i don't have it online anywhere.  it might be online in the  
aoir.org conference archives.   another good one for this Tarlton  
Gillespie at Cornell.   john's email address john at logie.net  tell him  
you want his paper on branding napster  or get with tarleton about  
his last aoir paper both are good.
On Feb 27, 2006, at 5:56 PM, Heidelberg, Chris wrote:

> Jeremy:
>
> Can you provide a url link to John Logie's paper? I am conducting
> research on edutainment and convergence and this issue is becoming a
> propaganda battle between the companies who can lobby and persuade
> lawmakers and the consumers who value fair use. This is beginning to
> look like total capitalism which is different from the old style of
> capitalism. Globalism has seemed to bring out the worst in too many
> businesses. Here is a revolutionary idea. Provide a good product
> inexpensively and you will not have to worry about illegal activity.
> Hence, the reason iTunes has over a billion downloads in just a few
> years and WalMart is the king of the retailing world. I am not saying
> that these institutions are perfect but they seem to get it when it
> comes to their customers more often than not. Suing your customers is
> simply mistreating your customers and if the music industry is not
> careful they may create competitors on the web who outsell them in ten
> years and who refuse to sell their businesses. Remember the old days
> when Erols led the world in video rentals until Blockbuster  
> annihilated
> them, and now NetFlix and others are killing hurting Blockbuster  
> because
> of convergence.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Sue Cranmer
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:24 AM
> To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> Subject: Re: [Air-l] Downloading music
>
> Thanks for the info. This is useful. I will check out John Logie's  
> paper
> too and retune my 'intuition'.
> BW
>
> Sue
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Hunsinger
> Sent: 25 February 2006 14:13
> To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> Subject: Re: [Air-l] Downloading music
>
>
> it depends on the individual track as to whether it is illegal or not.
> there is quite a bit of perfectly legal downloadable music on
> archive.org, http://www.archive.org/details/audio   and record
> companies and artists do release individual tracks off albums for free
> and some people, like Loca http://www.locarecords.com/ index2.html ,
> release whole albums freely l, or under special
> license like creative commons, or open content.   however, you have
> to be aware of whether those are licensed or just copyrighted and
> whether there are modifications to the terms, etc. etc.
>
> however, i do find the intuition that 'if you didn't pay, it is  
> illegal'
> to be very interesting, because that is the intuition that
> record companies try to promote in the u.s.   John Logie gave an
> interesting paper about that in Chicago .
> On Feb 25, 2006, at 8:56 AM, Sue Cranmer wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Can anyone clarify for me when it's legal/illegal to download music
>> from the internet. I've just checked out sites like
>> http://www.mp3musichq.com/me/index.asp?source=guks-03&kw=limewire
>> which say
>> that it's legal as long as you follow the copyright rules.
>>
>> I have also read articles saying that some companies are releasing
>> stuff by up and coming bands for promotional reasons, that is free to
>> download online. But, the stuff on sites like limewire is more far
>> reaching than just new/promotional.
>>
>> I had assumed that if you didn't pay for it it was illegal. But  
>> having
>
>> interviewed many 14 year olds about it this week, this is clearly not
>> their understanding.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Sue
>>
>>
>>
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