[Air-l] CITSA 2006

Bernie Hogan bernie.hogan at utoronto.ca
Thu Jan 19 09:02:56 PST 2006 

Indeed, I have to echo these sentiments. I was a bit naïve about fake
conferences. The fact checking happened very efficiently and clearly with a
lot of civility. 

I've sent a warning/notice about this sort of thing to my fellow graduate
students at our department, who might have also been taken in by this or
another conference.

Thanks again everyone,
BERNiE

Bernie Hogan
PhD Student
NetLab, Knowledge Media Design Institute
Department of Sociology
University of Toronto


I received a message from blb at buffalo.edu at approximately 1/19/06 11:37 AM.
Above is my reply.

> Homero and all,
> 
> It is good that issues like these come up every now and then since they
> will then stay on people's radar. At the same time the whole discussion has
> made "com and internet research newbies" like myself aware of the existence
> of such bogus "conferences" and so-called "journals." Since the journal
> component also relates to the work I do in libraries, I have since passed
> the information provided by Alex and Jeremy on to academic library lists.
> 
> Your post resulted in EXACTLY what these discussion lists are supposed to
> generate.
> 
> Best,
> Brenda
> 
> --On Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:07 AM -0600 Homero Gil de Zuniga
> <hgildezuniga at wisc.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Brenda and all,
>>  I did the same, and since the entire issue started to seem pretty
>> bizarre, I wanted to give them the opportunity to explain their position
>> in this matter (apparently, there is an "Indian Institute of Technology"
>> behind as well....)
>> Jeremy, I do not entirely understand why you mention "Let us take a moment
>> to consider your journal". It is not my journal, I'm not part of the
>> editorial board and I have never published there. On the other hand it is
>> true that I received the call for papers and circulated it to the list.
>> Thus, in any case, I feel bad because I have contributed to circulate
>> conference spam as Elijah named them.
>> I still keep a slight hope that someone from the editorial board will
>> explain their position. At this point everything indicates that they are
>> not trustworthy.
>> HGZ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Homero Gil de Zuniga
>> 
>> www.geocities.com/homerogil
>> Project Assistant for the Journalism & Mass Communication Department
>> www.journalism.wisc.edu
>> UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON
>> www.wisc.edu
>> PO Box 260022
>> 53726 Madison
>> WI, USA
>>      e-mail: hgildezuniga at wisc.edu
>> 
>>      Office: (608) 263-7852
>> 
>> "It is nice to be important... but it is more important to be nice"
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org
>> [mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] En nombre de blb at buffalo.edu
>> Enviado el: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:25 AM
>> Para: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
>> Asunto: Re: [Air-l] CITSA 2006
>> 
>> A note from a librarian...
>> 
>> I searched OCLC (WorldCat), which is the central bibliographic database
>> of  catalog records for libraries and found no record for Journal of
>> Systemics  Cybernetics and Informatics. This is pretty significant, since
>> this is the  database that records the journal holdings of most
>> libraries. In many  instances, new journals have catalog records before
>> the first issue is  published yet there is no record for this journal,
>> despite the fact that it  has an ISSN.
>> 
>> And speaking of ISSN, "Ulrichs," the largest directory of periodicals and
>> journals, does not list this title or ISSN.
>> 
>> This throws up red flags to any librarian evaluating a journal for
>> selection which is why, I suspect, no one has bothered to catalog Journal
>> of Systemics Cybernetics and Informatics or add it to their collection.
>> 
>> -Brenda
>> 
>> --
>> Brenda L. Battleson
>> Head, Print Periodicals/Serials
>> University at Buffalo
>> Acquisitions Dept.
>> 134 Lockwood Library
>> Buffalo, NY 14260-2210
>> Ph. 716.645.2305
>> Fax 716.645.5955
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --On Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:08 AM -0500 Jeremy Hunsinger
>> <jhuns at vt.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> Personally, If i were you, I'd resign from that journal's board
>>> before you end up on someone's  blacklist like http://www.anti-
>>> plagiarism.org/  . The accusations about several of these conferences
>>> seem to be very real.  They are for-profit machines.  You submit a
>>> paper, you pay the registration, someone gets a percentage  of that
>>> registration, and everyone is happy.  They admittedly have little or
>>> no peer review, and they accept randomly generated papers.   Let us
>>> take a moment to consider your journal.
>>> 
>>> it is hosted by  International Institute of Informatics and
>>> Cybernetics  which does not seem to exist except to host your journal
>>> and several of the conferences listed on the list that Alex posted
>>> and the blacklist above.
>>> it is edited by the two people directly implicated in the conference
>>> which led to this scandal:http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/blog/
>>> 
>>> so then, what is the content of this journal?  who sits on the
>>> editorial board?  where have they published?  where does this journal
>>> rank in isi?   what do subject area librarians think of this
>>> journal?  ask around and see, ask your advisor or dept. head about
>>> this journal, then tell them about the blacklist and the scandal, and
>>> see what they say.   my advice would be to distance yourself from
>>> this enterprise.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Homero Gil de Zuniga wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe someone in the editorial board would like to take the time to
>>>> reply to
>>>> the AoIR list about this accusation...
>>>> PS. Please note that this e-mail is being sent to both the AoIR
>>>> list and the
>>>> editorial board of the Journal of Systemics, Cybernetics and
>>>> Informatics
>>>> with ISSN: 1690-4524
>>>> HGZ
>>>> 
>>>> Let's see if someone clarifies this!!!  :-)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> jeremy hunsinger
>>> jhuns at vt.edu
>>> www.cddc.vt.edu
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