[Air-l] concerns about new biblio programs

Wed Oct 25 22:46:09 PDT 2006

Thanks Gilad, that is exactly what Endnote support told me to do and it did
not work. I suspect that it has something to do with my keeping more than
one tale of refs which endnote says not to do even though they provide the
capability.

I've learned to live with correcting the bad citations when they come and
the program is otherwise wonderful. 

Charlie

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[mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Gilad Ravid
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Hi,

To fix your endnote problem you should choose

Edit->Output styles ->Edit "yourstyle" menu
Then click on the "Ambiguous citations". Uncheck the "Include the author
initials or full name in citation" option

Gilad

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[mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Balch
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Regarding Endnote.

I'm using version X of endnote and just finishing up my dissertation
(actually I finished all the suggestions of my major advisor about twenty
minutes ago) I found Endnote to be very helpful but it does have some quirks
like occasionally leaving the first letter of an author's same in the inline
ref when it should not.

Charlie

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[mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Alex Halavais
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I have been using Endnote off and on for six or seven years. It was never
that great, but bibliographic management is one of those applications that
often has lock-in, and Endnote is not an exception here. Endnote does allow
exporting and importing in a number of formats, though (and I haven't tried
this lately), it doesn't make the process easy.

If you are going for staying power, and interoperability, it strikes me that
any system that can import and export to BibTeX should work fine. In other
words, the only systems you really have to be wary of are those that keep
your data in a proprietary format, and it strikes me that open source
products are less likely to go that route than many proprietary systems.
Like with email clients, the danger of lock-in has more to do with how open
the record system is than it does with how open the application itself is.

- Alex

On 10/24/06, Barry Wellman <wellman at chass.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> I'm a little concerned about people getting involved in bibliographic 
> programs which might not be supported in a few years, Open Source or not.
>
> Our investment in building our bibliographies tend to cumulate.
>
> That's why I stick with Endnote, despite its propietary nature.
> Even after being bought by ISI, it seems to have staying power.
> And with my 16K items in my bibliography, I'd hate to have to re-enter.
>
> Or am I missing something?
>
> Cheers, Barry Wellman
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