[Air-L] The Spiders will find you (was wayback machine waspublic/private)

[Conor Schaefer]

I love real-world analogies. I think analogies are vital in trying to 
understand any issue, and I stand by that here. So, toward that end, I 
propose that not knowing blogs are public is like not understanding the 
acoustics of the room in which you are speaking. If someone on the other 
end of a concourse in a heavily trafficked mall hears what you were 
saying to your friend because the sound bounced in an unexpected way (no 
sound-augmentation equipment was used), do you really have any right to 
ask the hearer to keep quiet about what you said?

I think that knowledge determines behavior. Ignorance might lead to 
behavior which the agent might later regret, but it does not mean that 
the obligations on those around the agent are different. Or?

Conor

Michael Zimmer wrote:
> yes, but again, we're assuming the uber-blogger. Let's say my Mom  
> starts a blog, must we expect her to master password settings and the  
> like? Do only the technically-proficient benefit from protections,  
> rather than the average (or below) publishers of web content? -mz
>
> On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Jeremy Hunsinger wrote:
>
>   
>> Let's keep in mind that it is easy enough to make a blog with
>> differing levels of access and thus private messages can stay private
>> and public can be public.   There is no reason to license anything
>> really, you just have to properly configure your blog if you want
>> private sections.
>> On Aug 14, 2007, at 6:35 PM, elw at stderr.org wrote:
>>
>>     
>>>> Copyright does not let you pick, but what if I include a restrictive
>>>> license? Someone earlier suggested a "Researchers May Not Research
>>>> Me"
>>>> license, for example. How far may "Terms of Service" extend? Even
>>>> if I
>>>> do not have password protection, couldn't readers be exposed to a
>>>> clickwrap license (ToS) on reading my blog?
>>>>         
>>> General consensus among attorneys I know has long been that clickwrap
>>> licenses on *software* are questionable.  By extension, I believe  
>>> that
>>> such a thing on a blog post would be even more so.
>>>
>>> ToS/"don't research me" leads you quickly to the slippery slope
>>> down which
>>> such themes as "thoughtcrime" lie....
>>>
>>> --e
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>> Jeremy Hunsinger
>> Information Ethics Fellow, Center for Information Policy Research,
>> School of Information Studies, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>> (www.cipr.uwm.edu)
>>
>> Words are things; and a small drop of ink, falling like dew upon a
>> thought, produces that which makes thousands, perhaps millions,
>> think. --Byron
>>
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