[Air-l] viewing American class divisions through Facebook and MySpace

Peter Timusk ptimusk at sympatico.ca
Mon Jul 2 01:22:44 PDT 2007


I read your piece now Danah Boyd.


  I reflected on my own teen years. I agree as a union activist that  
my friends as university educated activists(your friends working in  
cafes) are not working class even though we claim to be on  
ideological and income grounds. Like Stalin's student volunteers I  
think.

I also study youth movement stuff, as a former youth underground  
twenty something leader, but in computer studies focus on computer  
security these days with a fair amount of sociology of science and tech.

I wonder as a boomer what would have happened had I had kids twenty  
years ago in my late twenties but I guess I was just that alternative.

Interesting piece thanks it was good to reflect on

Peter Timusk,
B.Math statistics (2002), B.A. legal studies (2006) Carleton University
Systems Science Graduate student, University of Ottawa (2006-2007).
just trying to stay linear.
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On 24-Jun-07, at 8:02 PM, danah boyd wrote:

> A week ago, folks were talking about class divisions around Facebook
> and MySpace use in teen culture.  I was in the middle of writing an
> essay about that exact topic(and some folks have heard me speak to
> this issue over the last few months) so i didn't want to peep up
> until i had written what i could.  I finally gave up and realized
> that I didn't have the proper words for talking about this issue so I
> wrote an essay with caveats.  I offer it to you to tear to shreds in
> the hopes that maybe some good can come out of it.  (I didn't include
> the full text here because it's long - i hope the link doesn't
> discourage folks from checking it out.)  Feedback is *very* welcome.
>
> Viewing American class divisions through Facebook and MySpace
> http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html
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> [Barry - i disagree with your view that it's just local clustering
> dependent on a random local seed.  I've seen this in too many schools
> in too many states in the United States to believe that this isn't
> about class.  I can't speak to Canada or Britain or anywhere else.  I
> also can't speak to adult usage.  I'm talking solely about high
> school teen usage in the US.  If you've got ideas for how to measure
> this quantitatively when demarcating class is difficult, i'm all  
> ears.]
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