[Air-l] turnitin issue
burkx006 at umn.edu
burkx006 at umn.edu
Thu Mar 8 21:01:12 PST 2007
The ethical problem is not quite that simple.
Introna points out that the process by which Turnitin determines textual
matches is unknown (the Turnitin matching algorithm is a trade secret). He
suggests that the real problem is initiating, or not initiation,
investigations of students based upon a methodology that is not transparent
and unavailable for inspection.
DLB
On Mar 8 2007, Marj Kibby wrote:
>There is no assumption of guilt
>
> Students are required to submit to Turnitin to check that their
> referencing is accurate. In the same way that they are expected to use
> spelling and grammar checks.
>
> Turnitin reports are not accessed by staff unless there is reasonable
> cause to suspect that the work is plagiarised, and Turnitin reports
> cannot be used as the sole evidence of plagiarism
>
>Marj
>
>
>
>
>Dr Marjorie Kibby,
>Senior Lecturer in Communication & Culture
>Faculty of Education and Arts
>The University of Newcastle, Callaghan NSW 2308 Australia
>Marj.Kibby at newcastle.edu.au
>+61 2 49216604
>>>> Rosanna Tarsiero <rosanna at gionnethics.com> 03/09/07 10:57 AM >>>
>As a student myself (and online instructor), I never plagiarized a paper,
>and I do know that there are persons that do.
>
>However, the assumption that students need to prove innocent (rather than
>innocence unless otherwise proven) bothers me a great deal.
>
>I would refuse both submitting a paper to turnitin AND doing supplemental
>work. In all honesty, I do hope that some student sooner or later ends up
>suing colleges. Assuming people to be guilty unless otherwise proven
>violates quite a number of human rights.
>
>Rosanna Tarsiero
>
>"Circumstances do not make a man, they reveal him."
>
>--James Allen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org
>[mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Mark Warschauer
>Sent: venerdì 9 marzo 2007 0.50
>To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
>Subject: Re: [Air-l] turnitin issue
>
>I know of no precedent or case law, but this is an issue that is
>taken seriously here at UC Irvine. Students are usually given the
>permission to opt out of submitting their papers through
>Turnitin.com, but professors then require any students who opt out to
>complete one or more alternate assignments to demonstrate their
>papers were not plagiarized (and those alternatives can be quite
>onerous). See examples at
>http://eee.uci.edu/faculty/ccopenha/39b-student/turnitin.students.htm
>
>Mark Warschauer
>
>>Dear AOIRers,
>>
>>A colleague teaching another course has come across an issue with an
>>undergrad who refuses to hand in her term paper because the faculty
>>member's course requires that all papers also be submitted to
>>Turnitin.com.
>>
>>The student claims that this violates her own intellectual property
>>because Turnitin reportedly keeps copies for future plagiarism searches.
>>
>>As a supposed ICT & society "expert," my colleague came to me for advice.
>>My first thought was horsefeathers.
>>
>>However, I am wondering if there is any precedent or case law on this in
>>Canada or the US. (EU would be too different, I think.)
>>
>>I am not interested in the ethics or the morality of Turnitin, but in how
>>other situations have been resolved.
>>
>>Thanks,
>> Barry Wellman
>> _____________________________________________________________________
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