[Air-L] Citing from a Kindle

Cornelius Puschmann cornelius.puschmann at uni-duesseldorf.de
Wed Jan 5 02:54:02 PST 2011

While I don't see any harm in providing page numbers, I agree with Alex
about the horseless carriage thing. It seems unlikely that we'll still be
referring to places in documents without using URIs in the (perhaps still
distant) future -- it seems too tedious. There's no reason why we shouldn't
use anchors or similar techniques instead of manually counting paragraphs;
the fact that right now we mostly refer to entire documents via hyperlinks
doesn't mean it has to stay that way.

And wouldn't it be nice to encode the *kind* of link to a source (e.g.
whether you agree to or dispute its claims, whether it's comparable prior
research etc). Of course this assumes we'll eventually use hypertext instead
of word processors and PDF...


On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Lane DeNicola <denicola at alum.rpi.edu>wrote:

> How about the Chicago Manual of Style citation guidelines, 16th
> edition?  Presumably journal editors/reviewers would find *those*
> acceptable.
>  http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/tools_citationguide.html
> I quote here, minus italics:
> Book published electronically
> If a book is available in more than one format, cite the version you
> consulted. For books consulted online, list a URL; include an access
> date only if one is required by your publisher or discipline. If no
> fixed page numbers are available, you can include a section title or a
> chapter or other number.
> 1. Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice (New York: Penguin Classics,
> 2007), Kindle edition.
> 2. Philip B. Kurland and Ralph Lerner, eds., The Founders’
> Constitution (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1987), accessed
> February 28, 2010, http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/.
> 3. Austen, Pride and Prejudice.
> 4. Kurland and Lerner, Founder’s Constitution, chap. 10, doc. 19.
> Austen, Jane. Pride and Prejudice. New York: Penguin Classics, 2007.
> Kindle edition.
> Kurland, Philip B., and Ralph Lerner, eds. The Founders’ Constitution.
> Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1987. Accessed February 28,
> 2010. http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/.
> --LD
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:40 PM, <air-l-request at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
> >
> > Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:32:17 -0500
> > From: jeremy hunsinger <jhuns at vt.edu>
> > To: Alex Halavais <alex at halavais.net>
> > Cc: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> > Subject: Re: [Air-L] Citing from a Kindle
> > Message-ID: <78BDF849-7CCE-42E5-9FF8-EAC1462B276A at vt.edu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > how about a group that centers on bibliography and citation much more
> closely, like MLA or IFLA or somesuch?
> >
> > as for page numbers, let me say this... if you submit a paper to a
> journal and it comes to me without them or some similarly recognized
> convention, I'm probably going to note that in the review and require it to
> be done, and I think any editor or reviewer would do the same.   As i said,
> i don't think you necessarily need them for direct quotes, and i think you
> don't necessarily need them in certain other common sense instances, but
> sometimes... for reference page numbers or other indexical values are
> necessary.   If a reviewer or editor can't find what you are talking about
> in a text, they should be... worried...  Currently then, the practice is to
> include them for due diligence.  Whether, that changes in our lifetime... i
> don't know, it could.  Should we reject it or change it, for my part, no.  I
> like page numbers immensely, they make my life much easier.
> --
> Dr. Lane DeNicola
> Lecturer in Digital Anthropology
> Department of Anthropology
> University College London
> http://www.lanedenicola.name
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