[Air-L] question: published on the internet

[natalya godbold]

Would you consider this air-l conversation "published"?
I once contacted someone I didn't know via email, and she said she knew I
was "legit" because she found a conversation in air-l by googling my name.
she found this:
http://listserv.aoir.org/pipermail/air-l-aoir.org/2010-February/020645.html

I didn't know our listserve was publicly archived at the time but I figured,
at least she was happy with what she saw.
I can't find this email below from Andrew via google however, has the
archiving changed or is it just my flawed googling skills?



On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Andrew Schrock <aschrock at usc.edu> wrote:

> On Jul 11, 2011, at 3:00 PM, air-l-request at listserv.aoir.org wrote:
>
> > when is something published on the internet?
>
> I think a distinction needs to be made between "published" (let's just call
> this the releasing of information via a publication of one sort or other)
> and merely being publicly accessible (which can happen more informally in
> many ways). To my mind, the difference lies in the expectations of authors
> and the publisher (where applicable). A few cases might help illustrate.
>
> danah boyd's public drafts are clearly not formally published, but made
> accessible to encourage commentary and collaboration. I would consider most
> blogs to fit with this kind of aesthetic. Accessible, not necessarily
> spit-polished-final-state, and not published in the more formal sense. Blog
> posts might be the beginning of a paper that sees more formal publishing, or
> it might just be its final state.
>
> Conference papers are a good example of a gray area. Papers presented at
> the International Communication Association (ICA) are password-protected but
> still available online. It's neither made "generally known" nor disseminated
> "to the public" and not all conference presenters want their papers publicly
> available. Whether this is "published" depends on the context and
> discipline. Although most publishers would still consider it unpublished,
> this isn't a universal.
>
> Also see: the flap about getting book contracts from dissertations & the
> recent piece in Chronicle of higher ed.
>
> > does publishing something on the internet make it public?
>
> Not necessarily, IMHO. Most journal articles are published but not
> accessible to those without an academic hookup. When I read "public" I think
> of a work being easily findable and accessible. Most journals - even those
> with an online presence - are unfortunately not public access. First Monday
> - yes. Communication Research - no. It's ironic to me that most scholars,
> once their work has been published online, put versions up on their personal
> websites (or academia.edu, etc.) so that it can be more widely found and
> read. Even as peer-reviewed journal publications are the coin of the realm.
>
> > does making something public necessarily make it not private?
> >
> > can private information be published and thus be made public?
>
>
> There many, many gradients between private and public, which I think was
> what Michael was getting at. What is the context? The concept of privacy
> entails a comparison - private from whom and why - so I am pessimistic about
> generalizations being possible. My driver's license in my wallet might be
> visible every time I open it, but I would rather not have it posted on a
> website. I might have a conversation with a friend about a project I'm
> working on, and its central ideas are audible to anyone within earshot, but
> I might not be too keen about having myself recorded and posted online.
>
> A
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Schrock
> USC Annenberg Doctoral Student
> aschrock at usc.edu
> 714.330.6545
>
>
>
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-- 
Natalya Godbold
PhD Candidate (Human Information Behaviour / Health Communication)
Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
University of Technology, Sydney





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