[Air-L] Antw: Re: Inclusion of short links in academic publications?

[Johann Hoechtl]

Ironically, the link doesn't work for me - Time out.

Albeit the idea is appealing! I still think it's a good idea to work with short links for ease of readability and facilitate manual entry of web addresses in a browser. A corresponding short - to - longlist in the appendix of the paper should be enough for a wayback machine.

A short-url service specifically for acedemic research would also be a great starter for collaborative url collection, but I am digressing ... 

Johann

>>> Monica Barratt <tronica at gmail.com> schrieb am 26.07.2011 um 14:09 in Nachricht
<CAF9Ekp1j_i6853QXnixKN3A6upFO1z63+caW0Sc24aZr0Q75Yg at mail.gmail.com>:
> Does anyone have an opinion on using webcitation as an archiving service?
> http://www.webcitation.org/faq 
> 
> They seem to be made for this kind of work. I was considering using
> them in my thesis reference list and was thinking about including the
> short URL only, but can see now that maybe that's not the best idea.
> However, webcitation claim they won't 'disappear' down the track. I
> guess that's been said before!
> 
> Cheers
> Monica
> 
> 
> 
> On 26 July 2011 13:33, Denise N. Rall <denrall at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Dear Johan  -
>>
>> At my uni, they move the papers into a digital repository called bpress. 
> There are digital repositories on the market as well.
>>
>> Each paper included contains the last draft the researcher submitted for 
> publication which avoids copyright tangles (apparently). Other works included 
> on the page are cleared for copyright by our library staff.
>>
>> bpress generates its own statistics on how many times each reference (paper 
> or thesis, etc.) has been accessed. So one always knows how many times the 
> paper has been accessed. So do the administrators.
>>
>> Cheers, Denise
>>
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>>
>> --- On Sat, 23/7/11, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011 at reagle.org> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011 at reagle.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Antw: Re: Inclusion of short links in academic 
> publications?
>>> To: "Johann Hoechtl" <Johann.Hoechtl at donau-uni.ac.at>
>>> Cc: air-l at listserv.aoir.org 
>>> Received: Saturday, 23 July, 2011, 1:03 AM
>>> On Friday, July 22, 2011, Johann
>>> Hoechtl wrote:
>>> > If you are the one who created the shortlinks, it's
>>> likely that you have the ability to track how many times it
>>> was clicked (if you register at the shortening service)
>>>
>>> OK, understood.
>>>
>>> > * If you happen to publish a paper in a (closed)
>>> journal you are able to interpolate a figure how often your
>>> submission was read (if there is a statistical figure how
>>> many paper readers actually follow references, footnotes or
>>> plain internet links). Did the reviewers took a deep look
>>> into your references? From that you can derive a, admittedly
>>> problematic, cost-value ratio of the journal.
>>>
>>> Ah, I was thinking the primary thing I'd want to know was
>>> how many people read my paper but that's not something I'd
>>> have access to. But I can see your interpolation point
>>> though I'd be cognizant that (again) there are many services
>>> out there.
>>>
>>> As to other reasons (usefulness of my sources, and
>>> countries and such), those haven't been too compelling to
>>> me, and I'll note that this might steal page rank link juice
>>> -- since references to things will now have multiples URLs.
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