[Air-L] Elsevier is taking down papers from Academia.edu

[Edward M. Corrado]

Not only is Robert correct that Academia.edu is a "social network built in
part on top of a lot of copyright violations" but it is also a company with
multimillion dollar funding. I am a proponent of open access but I can't
feel bad for Academia in this case. I think they get a lot more slack
because they are able to use a .edu extension than they would if they were
Academia.com.

Edward


On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Robert W. Gehl <lists at robertwgehl.org>wrote:

> Setting aside individual publishers' rules about posting pre-prints to a
> /personal/ site, I've wondered for some time why publishers have not yet
> gone after Academia.edu, which is not a personal site, but a centralized
> social network built in part on top of a lot of copyright violations.
> It's YouTube all over again.
>
> - Rob
>
> Robert W. Gehl
> Assistant Professor, Department of Communication
> Affiliated Faculty, University Writing Program
> The University of Utah
> www.robertwgehl.org | @robertwgehl
> Sent from our OS on our Internet
>
> Watch for my book, Reverse Engineering Social Media, from Temple in 2014
>
> On 12/07/2013 08:28 AM, Jen Jack Gieseking wrote:
> > To determine exactly what versions of papers you are allowed to post
> > publicly per contracts, you can use the Sherpa Romeo database to search
> > copyright policies of most journals in a clear, easy to understand
> format:
> > http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/.
> > JJG
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jen Jack Gieseking, Ph.D.
> > Postdoctoral Fellow in New Media and Data Visualization
> > Digital and Computational Studies Initiative, Bowdoin College
> > jgieseking at gmail.com
> > www.jgieseking.org
> > www.spatiallyinclined.org
> > @jgieseking <https://twitter.com/jgieseking>
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Michael Zimmer <zimmerm at uwm.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> Precisely.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Michael Zimmer, PhD
> >> Assistant Professor, School of Information Studies
> >> Director, Center for Information Policy Research
> >> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
> >> e: zimmerm at uwm.edu
> >> w: www.michaelzimmer.org
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 7, 2013, at 6:21 AM, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011 at reagle.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 12/06/2013 10:41 PM, Michael Zimmer wrote:
> >>>> Whoever wrote this isn't very familiar with publisher copyright
> >>>> transfer agreements.
> >>> Some publishers often distinguish between the author's draft and the
> >>> final peer reviewed and paginated version. That is, posting a draft on
> >>> your site (or to SSRN, say) is permissible, copying the final version
> is
> >>> not. Hence I'm curious as to which these removed versions were?
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