[Air-L] Elsevier is taking down papers from Academia.edu

[Robert W. Gehl]

"I think they get a lot more slack because they are able to use a .edu
extension than they would if they were Academia.com."

Agreed. It's one of those accidents of Internet history that they got
that TLD, and it's paid dividends.

Open access is one thing when it's controlled by individual researchers
or done in collaboration with publishers. It's another when it's the
foundation of a site that's vacuuming a lot of free labor and
illbegotten materials. Not that I have a lot of sympathy for Elsevier,
either.

- Rob

Robert W. Gehl
Assistant Professor, Department of Communication
Affiliated Faculty, University Writing Program
The University of Utah
www.robertwgehl.org | @robertwgehl
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Watch for my book, Reverse Engineering Social Media, from Temple in 2014

On 12/07/2013 12:18 PM, Edward M. Corrado wrote:
> Not only is Robert correct that Academia.edu is a "social network built in
> part on top of a lot of copyright violations" but it is also a company with
> multimillion dollar funding. I am a proponent of open access but I can't
> feel bad for Academia in this case. I think they get a lot more slack
> because they are able to use a .edu extension than they would if they were
> Academia.com.
>
> Edward
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Robert W. Gehl <lists at robertwgehl.org>wrote:
>
>> Setting aside individual publishers' rules about posting pre-prints to a
>> /personal/ site, I've wondered for some time why publishers have not yet
>> gone after Academia.edu, which is not a personal site, but a centralized
>> social network built in part on top of a lot of copyright violations.
>> It's YouTube all over again.
>>
>> - Rob
>>
>> Robert W. Gehl
>> Assistant Professor, Department of Communication
>> Affiliated Faculty, University Writing Program
>> The University of Utah
>> www.robertwgehl.org | @robertwgehl
>> Sent from our OS on our Internet
>>
>> Watch for my book, Reverse Engineering Social Media, from Temple in 2014
>>
>> On 12/07/2013 08:28 AM, Jen Jack Gieseking wrote:
>>> To determine exactly what versions of papers you are allowed to post
>>> publicly per contracts, you can use the Sherpa Romeo database to search
>>> copyright policies of most journals in a clear, easy to understand
>> format:
>>> http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/.
>>> JJG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jen Jack Gieseking, Ph.D.
>>> Postdoctoral Fellow in New Media and Data Visualization
>>> Digital and Computational Studies Initiative, Bowdoin College
>>> jgieseking at gmail.com
>>> www.jgieseking.org
>>> www.spatiallyinclined.org
>>> @jgieseking <https://twitter.com/jgieseking>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Michael Zimmer <zimmerm at uwm.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Precisely.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Michael Zimmer, PhD
>>>> Assistant Professor, School of Information Studies
>>>> Director, Center for Information Policy Research
>>>> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>>>> e: zimmerm at uwm.edu
>>>> w: www.michaelzimmer.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 7, 2013, at 6:21 AM, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011 at reagle.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/06/2013 10:41 PM, Michael Zimmer wrote:
>>>>>> Whoever wrote this isn't very familiar with publisher copyright
>>>>>> transfer agreements.
>>>>> Some publishers often distinguish between the author's draft and the
>>>>> final peer reviewed and paginated version. That is, posting a draft on
>>>>> your site (or to SSRN, say) is permissible, copying the final version
>> is
>>>>> not. Hence I'm curious as to which these removed versions were?
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