[Air-L] Elsevier is taking down papers from Academia.edu

[Gil De Zuniga, Homero]

I know this might sound a bit odd, and I admit it beforehand : -}
But it sends to me that "us" researchers are the ones who are really losing in this trend, beyond the discussion of open research.
1. We do the research
2. We review the research
3. The research gets published by Elsevier and other publishers, or Academia.edu
4. We make no money.
5. They do.
I agree the system should be open. But if it's not, why shouldn't be the case that at least a decent part of the financial benefits revert back to the authors, departments, research units, schools, etc...
Saludos,
HGZ

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-------- Original message --------
From: "Robert W. Gehl"
Date:12/07/2013 11:08 (GMT-06:00)
To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier is taking down papers from Academia.edu

Setting aside individual publishers' rules about posting pre-prints to a
/personal/ site, I've wondered for some time why publishers have not yet
gone after Academia.edu, which is not a personal site, but a centralized
social network built in part on top of a lot of copyright violations.
It's YouTube all over again.

- Rob

Robert W. Gehl
Assistant Professor, Department of Communication
Affiliated Faculty, University Writing Program
The University of Utah
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On 12/07/2013 08:28 AM, Jen Jack Gieseking wrote:
> To determine exactly what versions of papers you are allowed to post
> publicly per contracts, you can use the Sherpa Romeo database to search
> copyright policies of most journals in a clear, easy to understand format:
> http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/.
> JJG
>
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> Postdoctoral Fellow in New Media and Data Visualization
> Digital and Computational Studies Initiative, Bowdoin College
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> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Michael Zimmer <zimmerm at uwm.edu> wrote:
>
>> Precisely.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Zimmer, PhD
>> Assistant Professor, School of Information Studies
>> Director, Center for Information Policy Research
>> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>> e: zimmerm at uwm.edu
>> w: www.michaelzimmer.org<http://www.michaelzimmer.org>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2013, at 6:21 AM, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011 at reagle.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/06/2013 10:41 PM, Michael Zimmer wrote:
>>>> Whoever wrote this isn't very familiar with publisher copyright
>>>> transfer agreements.
>>> Some publishers often distinguish between the author's draft and the
>>> final peer reviewed and paginated version. That is, posting a draft on
>>> your site (or to SSRN, say) is permissible, copying the final version is
>>> not. Hence I'm curious as to which these removed versions were?
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