[Air-L] Nvivo for facebook pages

Shulman, Stu stu at texifter.com
Thu Apr 20 06:08:04 PDT 2017 

Complete datasets will never be (and never were) possible for Facebook
because of the degraded function of the Open Graph API. They are somewhat
possible using Gnip-enabled services for historical Twitter, as long as you
discount the deleted Tweets in your measure of completeness, and they are
truly possible with Gnip real time services for Twitter data.

I would add to the discussion of completeness, specifically with respect to
content analysis: unless you review the data using the Twitter or Facebook
display, it is degraded and incomplete. A spreadsheet of Twitter or
Facebook posts is a poor approximation of the rich visual content enabled
in the live display. In many cases, the meaning of a Tweet or a Facebook
post is incomprehensible without the visual referent that was the cause of
the post.

~Stu

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Marisa von Bülow <marisavonbulow at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, Deen! Our research group has turned to Python (could have been R,
> Maurice, but we chose Python for now) to collect data on Twitter and we are
> now trying to learn how to do use it for Facebook. Not easy... we will
> definitely check out your code, many thanks for sharing!
>
> However, even Python and R scraping face the issues pointed out by Bernhard
> Rieder, don't they? I mean, we are still dealing with incomplete datasets,
> which we can only speculate about. Right?
> Have you followed his suggestion, that is, have you compared retrieved data
> using Python, R, Netvizz ...?
>
> Marisa
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Deen Freelon <dfreelon at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If you're not afraid of a little Python, here's another data collection
> > alternative (written by yours truly): https://github.com/dfreelon/fb
> > _scrape_public
> >
> > Just two lines of code and you're off to the races, plus it collects all
> > the new reactions ("haha," "love," etc) and is robust to network errors.
> > It's also free, which helps. /DEEN
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/19/2017 1:39 PM, Fabio Gouveia wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I´ve been using Facepager for some time and I love it. It really
> >> requires a little bit of knowledge on how to make the calls, but it´s
> >> really a good tool to invest time in. Some issues on the Mac version
> >> and a little bit of knowledge on the different versions of the API to
> >> get reactions downloaded right. I do agree with Bernhard that working
> >> with facebook data, due to the lack of transparency, it´s really
> >> complicated.
> >>
> >> best,
> >>
> >> Fábio C Gouveia
> >> Scientrometrics and Altmetrics Researcher
> >> Fundação Oswaldo Cruz - Brazil
> >> fgouveiafiocruz at gmail.com
> >>
> >> 2017-04-19 14:04 GMT-03:00 Patricia Rossini <patyrossini at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I would strongly advise against using NVivo to scrape Facebook data - I
> >>> have seen the same issues that Marisa has identified - missing data,
> >>> problems to import. Moreover, the NCapture tool only talks to NVivo, so
> >>> you’re not ‘free' to analyze the data elsewhere.
> >>> People tend to have good results with Netvizz. I use Facepager, which
> is
> >>> an open source software created by and for academics. It requires a
> little
> >>> knowledge on the APIs to make the right calls, but works like a charm
> and
> >>> exports results to CSV.
> >>>
> >>> best,
> >>>
> >>> Patricia Rossini
> >>> Postdoctoral researcher  | School of Information Studies
> >>> Syracuse University
> >>> www.patriciarossini.com <http://www.patriciarossini.com/>
> >>>
> >>> Em 19 de abr de 2017, à(s) 12:43, Marisa von Bülow <
> >>>> marisavonbulow at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>>
> >>>> Our research group at the University of Brasilia (Brazil) has used
> >>>> NVivo/NCapture to capture and analyze data of Facebook pages, but
> >>>> recently
> >>>> has bumped into two serious issues:
> >>>>
> >>>> a) the dataset won't open in NVivo (when we asked for help, NVivo
> >>>> personnel
> >>>> said this happened because of date problems, which we have not been
> >>>> able to
> >>>> solve). We just switched to Netvizz and then opened the dataset on
> >>>> NVivo to
> >>>> do content analysis of posts.
> >>>> b) we have noticed differences in the amount of information gathered
> by
> >>>> NCapture in comparison with Netvizz. There are chunks of periods in
> >>>> which
> >>>> posts have not been collected by NCapture (and we confirmed that the
> >>>> data
> >>>> is there), which has surprised us, because we had not previously had
> >>>> this
> >>>> problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am happy to talk to you about these and other issues.
> >>>>
> >>>> Marisa
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:51 AM, mona arslan <
> mona_arslan at hotmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I would be very happy to talk to anyone who has managed to capture
> >>>>> content
> >>>>> from facebook page for NVIVO. Facebook pages as a data set
> >>>>> specifically is
> >>>>> my interest( not groups or conversation and not as a PDF, but as a
> >>>>> dataset)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks in advance!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mona Arslan,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Teacher  Assistant  (AASTM) and PhD Candidate (Digital Media)
> >>>>> Founder of The Egyptian Social Media Initiative
> >>>>> @monarslan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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