[Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?

Tue Oct 25 06:15:39 PDT 2022

I could be wrong, since I've only dabbled briefly w/Mastodon back in the spring and not really dug too deeply into it yet so bear with me:  Won't this just create a bunch of silos based on what instance you're in?  IoW, say you're in the AOIR instance, are you able to share/communicate/link/follow content and users on, say, ICA's instance?   (Think of how you and your guild has to log into a given server on WoW but can't chat w/someone on another server ... or at least you couldn't when I played.)

If so, wouldn't this mean that Masto is more like an old-style BBS built around likeminded community of users/interests (which I think is nice, btw!) but at the same time fracture and stovepipe online interactions and communities further? It's hard enough to manage 1-2 Twitter feeds ... how will someone manage their identity/participation in X number of Mastodon instances?

As I said, I'm very much a newbie to Mastodon, so I could be totally wrong in my comments here.   -- rick

On 25 Oct 2022, at 8:45, Enkerli, Alexandre via Air-L wrote:

> Nice to meet other Masto users.
>
> Moved to Scholar.social during a recent Musk-induced flurry of activity on Mastodon. At that time (a few weeks before the Open Education Global event), a significant number of people in the Open Education movement transferred some activity to the Fediverse.
> https://edtechfactotum.com/open-educators-on-mastodon/
>
> However, it doesn't sound like the level of activity at this point is that much higher than previous attempts at moving away from birdsite.
>
> Maybe an AIR instance will change things, especially if the messages from this mailing-list convert into toots.
>
>
> --Alex
>
> ALEXANDRE ENKERLI
> CHARGÉ DE PROJETS • SERVICES DE PÉDAGOGIE NUMÉRIQUE
> collecto.ca
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> De la part de sally--- via Air-L
> Envoyé : 24 octobre 2022 18:27
> À : Robert W Gehl <lists at robertwgehl.org>; Fenwick Mckelvey <mckelveyf at gmail.com>
> Cc : air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> Objet : Re: [Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?
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> [AVERTISSEMENT] Courriel EXTERNE. Soyez PRUDENT avec les hyperliens et pièces jointes. Merci!
>
> Hi
>
> I'm on Mastadon already, but would prefer to be on an AOIR sponsored server...
> ________________________________
> From: Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of Fenwick Mckelvey via Air-L <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 1:45 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?
>
> Hi all
> I am very much interested in the Mastadon opportunity. Please count me in too.
>
> Be good,
> Fenwick
>
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 at 13:52, Robert W Gehl via Air-L < air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>
>> Count me in on this, Aram. (no surprise there, I imagine!)
>>
>> As far as I'm concerned, there is academic microblogging beyond the
>> Musk site -- it's on the fediverse. I'll be talking about it a bit in
>> my presentation at AOIR.
>>
>> - Rob
>>
>> On 10/24/22 13:21, Aram Sinnreich via Air-L wrote:
>>> I’ve been thinking that AoIR should launch its own Mastodon
>>> instance,
>> open to all members. Something like aoir[dot]social.
>>>
>>> Glad to discuss in Dublin.
>>>
>>>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 4:42 PM, Richard Forno via Air-L <
>> air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> External Email: Use caution with links and attachments.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Stu -
>>>>
>>>> Like many, I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst for Twitter.
>>>> I find Twitter a fantastic tool for staying in-touch and updated on
>>>> colleagues' research/ideas/musings, sharing ideas of my own and
>>>> perhaps soliciting feedback/contributions, following conference
>>>> hashtags (hello #AOIR2022!), some current events and
>>>> socialization...and the odd dog or nature photo  I'd hate quit it,
>>>> but I've not ruled it out ... but I could live w/o Twitter, even after 13 years.
>>>>
>>>> Without getting too deeply into politics here (which can be hard
>>>> given the broader issues raised) -- as to your last paragraph Stu,
>>>> I'm with you.  Since 2001 I've been increasingly concerned about
>>>> the future of America's lttle-d democracy, view 2016 as a populist
>>>> accident/experiment, saw 2020--1/6 as a test run. feel 2022 will be
>>>> a good indicator of where things are heading having learned from
>>>> 2020, and firmly believe that 2024 likely will be *the* pivotal point for our
>>>> country one way or the other.   (Though politically, I think this
>>>> political decline started in the mid-90s when one party decided to
>>>> treat the other as the 'enemy' and embraced a scorched-earth brand
>>>> of politics that considered compromise akin to treason, which got
>>>> cranked to 11 thanks to silo'd cable news and SM platforms in
>>>> ensuing years.)  And that's all I will prognosticate about here
>>>> politically -- other than to conclude by saying I'm worried not
>>>> just about now, but that we will not be able to fix things and get
>>>> "back on track for the future" anytime soon.  :/.
>>>>
>>>> I do admit that despite being an old-school geek/hacker, in recent
>>>> years I've wrestled with the warm-and-fuzzy nostalgic notion from
>>>> the '90s that "information wants to be free". In some ways, it's
>>>> been great for individuals and society -- in other ways, as Borat
>>>> might say, "not so much."  Of course, that change in thinking also could be a function of
>>>> midlife as well as current events.   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>>>
>>>> But one of the world's dominant modern comms mediums transitioning
>>>> into an unaccountable private entity run by a person .... however
>>>> you view Musk .... definitely is concerning on *many* levels.[1].
>>>> By contrast, at least FB is a regulated public company and has the
>>>> appearance of some 'objective' review of controversial things via its Oversight Board.
>>>>
>>>> As for aca-Twitter?  As I said, I'm still in wait-and-see, but it
>>>> wouldn't surprise me to see many tweeps both from academia and
>>>> elsewhere posting their final tweets either due to protest or for
>>>> professional reasons / protection by year-end or early next year,
>>>> depending on what 'innovations' are introduced to the platform post-acquisition.
>>>>
>>>> Stay tuned, I guess...
>>>>
>>>> -- rick
>>>>
>>>> [1] WaPo reported Friday that DOD/DOJ 'might' be investigating the
>>>> Twitter deal and SpaceX-DOD contracts due to national security
>>>> concerns with Musk's public views and his foreign investors.  Could
>>>> be something there, could be a flash of desperation to block the
>>>> sale ... but again, the question of accountability comes up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21 Oct 2022, at 7:43, Shulman, Stu via Air-L wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Will academic Twitter exist under Elon Musk? Will there be more or
>>>>> less data? More or less urgent issues to study? Will the "Fail
>>>>> Whale" show up again after 75% of the staff is gone? Who will do
>>>>> content moderation?
>>>>> Is
>>>>> this a FastTrack to the next violent uprising in the US?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am curious what people on this particular list think is about to
>>>>> happen.
>>>>> After 12 years featuring the formal study of Twitter data I am
>>>>> completely burned out. Not on the challenges, nor the art and
>>>>> science of the tasks. I still love talking to students and faculty
>>>>> who have chosen Twitter as the object of their research. The data
>>>>> has never been more widely available and the positive uses of it
>>>>> can be inspiring.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the voluminous amounts of hate I see in my own research. Also
>>>>> the systemic weaponization of Twitter against democratic systems
>>>>> of government globally. As an original Board Member and the
>>>>> Treasurer of a 501
>>>>> (c)(6)
>>>>> called "The Big Boulder Initiative" I was working as a liaison to
>>>>> academia with a group of industry people on the "long term
>>>>> preservation of the social data industry." The industry survived,
>>>>> but the ideals aspired to have not. We offered this 2-minute
>>>>> Lawrence Lessig-inspired vision of the challenges about 7 years
>>>>> ago:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Why Texifter Joined the Big Boulder Initiative"
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Lessig was right. On the Internet, architecture is the most
>>>>> powerful regulator. The architecture of Twitter, with corporate
>>>>> ads featured on insurrectionist and other problematic timelines,
>>>>> is now a persistent threat to democratic systems of government
>>>>> without a single day of Musk governance. The insurrection January
>>>>> 6, 2021 was planned in the open on Twitter. There were
>>>>> advertisements from familiar brands in every seditious timeline.
>>>>> Evolving tactics using Twitter trains (tagging 30 like-minded
>>>>> users), notification-rich replies, the ReTweet functionality,
>>>>> gamification, domestic and foreign meme warfare, the idolatry of
>>>>> influence via misinformation, bots and trolls, as well as paid
>>>>> amplifiers of all manner and variety. The "digital soldiers" we
>>>>> found in the Canadian election of
>>>>> 2019 (fake Americans who hated Trudeau but liked RT, Russia Today
>>>>> and
>>>>> Southfront) were openly planning a QAnon-inspired "storm" which
>>>>> ultimately was the first coup attempt in two centuries of American
>>>>> democracy. I briefed the US/UK Intelligence Community (staff from
>>>>> the Joint Chiefs, JSOC, etc.) February 12, 2020 via the Strategic
>>>>> Multilayer Assessment using open source information from Twitter.
>>>>> Things have since gotten much worse, not better, since that
>>>>> briefing. These were the slides in early February
>>>>> 2020:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at the current threat-relevant data, I have a
>>>>> sick-to-my-stomach feeling about the next 60 days in U.S. history.
>>>>> We may be late to notice the end of small "d" democracy is
>>>>> imminent or inevitable because of the Internet effects we cannot
>>>>> fully see, capture, measure, or control.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dr. Stuart W. Shulman
>>>>> Founder and CEO, Texifter
>>>>> Editor Emeritus, *Journal of Information Technology & Politics*
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