[Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?

Enkerli, Alexandre Alexandre.Enkerli at collecto.ca
Tue Oct 25 05:45:56 PDT 2022


Nice to meet other Masto users.

Moved to Scholar.social during a recent Musk-induced flurry of activity on Mastodon. At that time (a few weeks before the Open Education Global event), a significant number of people in the Open Education movement transferred some activity to the Fediverse.
https://edtechfactotum.com/open-educators-on-mastodon/

However, it doesn't sound like the level of activity at this point is that much higher than previous attempts at moving away from birdsite.

Maybe an AIR instance will change things, especially if the messages from this mailing-list convert into toots.


--Alex

ALEXANDRE ENKERLI
CHARGÉ DE PROJETS • SERVICES DE PÉDAGOGIE NUMÉRIQUE
collecto.ca


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De : Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> De la part de sally--- via Air-L
Envoyé : 24 octobre 2022 18:27
À : Robert W Gehl <lists at robertwgehl.org>; Fenwick Mckelvey <mckelveyf at gmail.com>
Cc : air-l at listserv.aoir.org
Objet : Re: [Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?

[AVERTISSEMENT] Courriel EXTERNE. Soyez PRUDENT avec les hyperliens et pièces jointes. Merci!

Hi

I'm on Mastadon already, but would prefer to be on an AOIR sponsored server...
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From: Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of Fenwick Mckelvey via Air-L <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 1:45 PM
To: Robert W Gehl <lists at robertwgehl.org>
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Subject: Re: [Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?

Hi all
I am very much interested in the Mastadon opportunity. Please count me in too.

Be good,
Fenwick

On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 at 13:52, Robert W Gehl via Air-L < air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:

> Count me in on this, Aram. (no surprise there, I imagine!)
>
> As far as I'm concerned, there is academic microblogging beyond the 
> Musk site -- it's on the fediverse. I'll be talking about it a bit in 
> my presentation at AOIR.
>
> - Rob
>
> On 10/24/22 13:21, Aram Sinnreich via Air-L wrote:
> > I’ve been thinking that AoIR should launch its own Mastodon 
> > instance,
> open to all members. Something like aoir[dot]social.
> >
> > Glad to discuss in Dublin.
> >
> >> On Oct 23, 2022, at 4:42 PM, Richard Forno via Air-L <
> air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> External Email: Use caution with links and attachments.
> >>
> >> Hi Stu -
> >>
> >> Like many, I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst for Twitter.
> >> I find Twitter a fantastic tool for staying in-touch and updated on 
> >> colleagues' research/ideas/musings, sharing ideas of my own and 
> >> perhaps soliciting feedback/contributions, following conference 
> >> hashtags (hello #AOIR2022!), some current events and 
> >> socialization...and the odd dog or nature photo  I'd hate quit it, 
> >> but I've not ruled it out ... but I could live w/o Twitter, even after 13 years.
> >>
> >> Without getting too deeply into politics here (which can be hard 
> >> given the broader issues raised) -- as to your last paragraph Stu, 
> >> I'm with you.  Since 2001 I've been increasingly concerned about 
> >> the future of America's lttle-d democracy, view 2016 as a populist 
> >> accident/experiment, saw 2020--1/6 as a test run. feel 2022 will be 
> >> a good indicator of where things are heading having learned from 
> >> 2020, and firmly believe that 2024 likely will be *the* pivotal point for our
> >> country one way or the other.   (Though politically, I think this
> >> political decline started in the mid-90s when one party decided to 
> >> treat the other as the 'enemy' and embraced a scorched-earth brand 
> >> of politics that considered compromise akin to treason, which got 
> >> cranked to 11 thanks to silo'd cable news and SM platforms in 
> >> ensuing years.)  And that's all I will prognosticate about here 
> >> politically -- other than to conclude by saying I'm worried not 
> >> just about now, but that we will not be able to fix things and get 
> >> "back on track for the future" anytime soon.  :/.
> >>
> >> I do admit that despite being an old-school geek/hacker, in recent 
> >> years I've wrestled with the warm-and-fuzzy nostalgic notion from 
> >> the '90s that "information wants to be free". In some ways, it's 
> >> been great for individuals and society -- in other ways, as Borat 
> >> might say, "not so much."  Of course, that change in thinking also could be a function of
> >> midlife as well as current events.   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> >>
> >> But one of the world's dominant modern comms mediums transitioning 
> >> into an unaccountable private entity run by a person .... however 
> >> you view Musk .... definitely is concerning on *many* levels.[1]. 
> >> By contrast, at least FB is a regulated public company and has the 
> >> appearance of some 'objective' review of controversial things via its Oversight Board.
> >>
> >> As for aca-Twitter?  As I said, I'm still in wait-and-see, but it 
> >> wouldn't surprise me to see many tweeps both from academia and 
> >> elsewhere posting their final tweets either due to protest or for 
> >> professional reasons / protection by year-end or early next year, 
> >> depending on what 'innovations' are introduced to the platform post-acquisition.
> >>
> >> Stay tuned, I guess...
> >>
> >> -- rick
> >>
> >> [1] WaPo reported Friday that DOD/DOJ 'might' be investigating the 
> >> Twitter deal and SpaceX-DOD contracts due to national security 
> >> concerns with Musk's public views and his foreign investors.  Could 
> >> be something there, could be a flash of desperation to block the 
> >> sale ... but again, the question of accountability comes up.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 21 Oct 2022, at 7:43, Shulman, Stu via Air-L wrote:
> >>
> >>> Will academic Twitter exist under Elon Musk? Will there be more or 
> >>> less data? More or less urgent issues to study? Will the "Fail 
> >>> Whale" show up again after 75% of the staff is gone? Who will do 
> >>> content moderation?
> >>> Is
> >>> this a FastTrack to the next violent uprising in the US?
> >>>
> >>> I am curious what people on this particular list think is about to 
> >>> happen.
> >>> After 12 years featuring the formal study of Twitter data I am 
> >>> completely burned out. Not on the challenges, nor the art and 
> >>> science of the tasks. I still love talking to students and faculty 
> >>> who have chosen Twitter as the object of their research. The data 
> >>> has never been more widely available and the positive uses of it 
> >>> can be inspiring.
> >>>
> >>> It's the voluminous amounts of hate I see in my own research. Also 
> >>> the systemic weaponization of Twitter against democratic systems 
> >>> of government globally. As an original Board Member and the 
> >>> Treasurer of a 501
> >>> (c)(6)
> >>> called "The Big Boulder Initiative" I was working as a liaison to 
> >>> academia with a group of industry people on the "long term 
> >>> preservation of the social data industry." The industry survived, 
> >>> but the ideals aspired to have not. We offered this 2-minute 
> >>> Lawrence Lessig-inspired vision of the challenges about 7 years 
> >>> ago:
> >>>
> >>> "Why Texifter Joined the Big Boulder Initiative"
> >>>
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> >>> Lessig was right. On the Internet, architecture is the most 
> >>> powerful regulator. The architecture of Twitter, with corporate 
> >>> ads featured on insurrectionist and other problematic timelines, 
> >>> is now a persistent threat to democratic systems of government 
> >>> without a single day of Musk governance. The insurrection January 
> >>> 6, 2021 was planned in the open on Twitter. There were 
> >>> advertisements from familiar brands in every seditious timeline. 
> >>> Evolving tactics using Twitter trains (tagging 30 like-minded 
> >>> users), notification-rich replies, the ReTweet functionality, 
> >>> gamification, domestic and foreign meme warfare, the idolatry of 
> >>> influence via misinformation, bots and trolls, as well as paid 
> >>> amplifiers of all manner and variety. The "digital soldiers" we 
> >>> found in the Canadian election of
> >>> 2019 (fake Americans who hated Trudeau but liked RT, Russia Today 
> >>> and
> >>> Southfront) were openly planning a QAnon-inspired "storm" which 
> >>> ultimately was the first coup attempt in two centuries of American 
> >>> democracy. I briefed the US/UK Intelligence Community (staff from 
> >>> the Joint Chiefs, JSOC, etc.) February 12, 2020 via the Strategic 
> >>> Multilayer Assessment using open source information from Twitter. 
> >>> Things have since gotten much worse, not better, since that 
> >>> briefing. These were the slides in early February
> >>> 2020:
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> Looking at the current threat-relevant data, I have a 
> >>> sick-to-my-stomach feeling about the next 60 days in U.S. history. 
> >>> We may be late to notice the end of small "d" democracy is 
> >>> imminent or inevitable because of the Internet effects we cannot 
> >>> fully see, capture, measure, or control.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Dr. Stuart W. Shulman
> >>> Founder and CEO, Texifter
> >>> Editor Emeritus, *Journal of Information Technology & Politics* 
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