[Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?

Ness nessa.paech at gmail.com
Wed Oct 26 12:01:25 PDT 2022


Hi all,

Keen to participate and support next steps here. I managed communities for 20+ years professionally, run the Australian national body for online community practitioners and now research and teach these practices — so definitely have both enthusiasm and insights to apply :-)   

Venessa Paech
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I respectfully acknowledge the Traditional Owners, Custodians and Elders past and present of the Wadawurrung people, on whose lands I reside.

> On 26 Oct 2022, at 7:23 pm, Meryl Krieger via Air-L <air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
> 
> I'd like to be included here as well.
> 
> J. Meryl Krieger, Ph.D.
> *she/her/hers*
> Senior Learning Designer
> Arts & Sciences Online Learning, College of Liberal and Professional
> Studies, University of Pennsylvania
> Lecturer, College of Liberal and Professional Studies, University of
> Pennsylvania
> Consultant and Career Coach, Career Coaching for Creatives/
> http://careercoachingforcreatives.com
> Adjunct Lecturer, Department of Sociology, Indiana University Purdue
> University Indianapolis
> 
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/merylkrieger
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> 
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:48 AM Shulman, Stu via Air-L <
>> air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>> 
>> If the format is JSON it can be uploaded to a free DiscoverText Academic
>> account.
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:08 AM Steph Kent via Air-L <
>> air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you! One more question
>>> 
>>> Are there tricks to opening/accessing the archive once its downloaded?
>>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2022, at 5:55 PM, Derek Baird via Air-L <
>>> air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Several people have asked how to get a Twitter archive. It's super easy,
>>> here you go:
>>> 
>>> Twitter > Settings > Your account > Download an archive of your data
>>> *_________________*
>>> *Derek E. Baird, M.A.*
>>> he/him/his
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:47 PM Derek Baird <debaird at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Reminder to get a Twitter archive asap. can take a few days (it includes
>>> 
>>> DMs.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> DB
>>> 
>>> *_________________*
>>> 
>>> *Derek E. Baird, M.A.*
>>> 
>>> he/him/his
>>> 
>>> English, German, Vietnamese, Ukrainian and Chinese editions of my book,
>>> *The
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> and Blinkist <https://www.blinkist.com/en/books/the-gen-z-frequency-en>!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:40 PM sally--- via Air-L <
>>> 
>>> air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm on Mastadon already, but would prefer to be on an AOIR sponsored
>>> 
>>> server...
>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> 
>>> From: Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of Fenwick
>>> 
>>> Mckelvey via Air-L <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
>>> 
>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 1:45 PM
>>> 
>>> To: Robert W Gehl <lists at robertwgehl.org>
>>> 
>>> Cc: air-l at listserv.aoir.org <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> I am very much interested in the Mastadon opportunity. Please count me in
>>> 
>>> too.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Be good,
>>> 
>>> Fenwick
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 at 13:52, Robert W Gehl via Air-L <
>>> 
>>> air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Count me in on this, Aram. (no surprise there, I imagine!)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As far as I'm concerned, there is academic microblogging beyond the Musk
>>> 
>>> site -- it's on the fediverse. I'll be talking about it a bit in my
>>> 
>>> presentation at AOIR.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Rob
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10/24/22 13:21, Aram Sinnreich via Air-L wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve been thinking that AoIR should launch its own Mastodon instance,
>>> 
>>> open to all members. Something like aoir[dot]social.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Glad to discuss in Dublin.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 4:42 PM, Richard Forno via Air-L <
>>> 
>>> air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> External Email: Use caution with links and attachments.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Stu -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Like many, I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst for
>>> 
>>> Twitter.
>>> 
>>> I find Twitter a fantastic tool for staying in-touch and updated on
>>> 
>>> colleagues' research/ideas/musings, sharing ideas of my own and
>>> 
>>> perhaps
>>> 
>>> soliciting feedback/contributions, following conference hashtags
>>> 
>>> (hello
>>> 
>>> #AOIR2022!), some current events and socialization...and the odd dog
>>> 
>>> or
>>> 
>>> nature photo  I'd hate quit it, but I've not ruled it out ... but I
>>> 
>>> could live w/o Twitter, even after 13 years.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Without getting too deeply into politics here (which can be hard
>>> 
>>> given
>>> 
>>> the broader issues raised) -- as to your last paragraph Stu, I'm with
>>> 
>>> you.  Since 2001 I've been increasingly concerned about the future of
>>> 
>>> America's lttle-d democracy, view 2016 as a populist
>>> 
>>> accident/experiment, saw 2020--1/6 as a test run. feel 2022 will be a
>>> 
>>> good indicator of where things are heading having learned from 2020,
>>> 
>>> and
>>> 
>>> firmly believe that 2024 likely will be *the* pivotal point for our
>>> 
>>> country one way or the other.   (Though politically, I think this
>>> 
>>> political decline started in the mid-90s when one party decided to
>>> 
>>> treat
>>> 
>>> the other as the 'enemy' and embraced a scorched-earth brand of
>>> 
>>> politics
>>> 
>>> that considered compromise akin to treason, which got cranked to 11
>>> 
>>> thanks to silo'd cable news and SM platforms in ensuing years.)  And
>>> 
>>> that's all I will prognosticate about here politically -- other than
>>> 
>>> to
>>> 
>>> conclude by saying I'm worried not just about now, but that we will
>>> 
>>> not
>>> 
>>> be able to fix things and get "back on track for the future" anytime
>>> 
>>> soon.  :/.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I do admit that despite being an old-school geek/hacker, in recent
>>> 
>>> years
>>> 
>>> I've wrestled with the warm-and-fuzzy nostalgic notion from the '90s
>>> 
>>> that "information wants to be free". In some ways, it's been great
>>> 
>>> for
>>> 
>>> individuals and society -- in other ways, as Borat might say, "not so
>>> 
>>> much."  Of course, that change in thinking also could be a function
>>> 
>>> of
>>> 
>>> midlife as well as current events.   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But one of the world's dominant modern comms mediums transitioning
>>> 
>>> into
>>> 
>>> an unaccountable private entity run by a person .... however you view
>>> 
>>> Musk .... definitely is concerning on *many* levels.[1]. By
>>> 
>>> contrast, at
>>> 
>>> least FB is a regulated public company and has the appearance of some
>>> 
>>> 'objective' review of controversial things via its Oversight Board.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As for aca-Twitter?  As I said, I'm still in wait-and-see, but it
>>> 
>>> wouldn't surprise me to see many tweeps both from academia and
>>> 
>>> elsewhere
>>> 
>>> posting their final tweets either due to protest or for professional
>>> 
>>> reasons / protection by year-end or early next year, depending on
>>> 
>>> what
>>> 
>>> 'innovations' are introduced to the platform post-acquisition.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Stay tuned, I guess...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- rick
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [1] WaPo reported Friday that DOD/DOJ 'might' be investigating the
>>> 
>>> Twitter deal and SpaceX-DOD contracts due to national security
>>> 
>>> concerns
>>> 
>>> with Musk's public views and his foreign investors.  Could be
>>> 
>>> something
>>> 
>>> there, could be a flash of desperation to block the sale ... but
>>> 
>>> again,
>>> 
>>> the question of accountability comes up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 21 Oct 2022, at 7:43, Shulman, Stu via Air-L wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Will academic Twitter exist under Elon Musk? Will there be more or
>>> 
>>> less
>>> 
>>> data? More or less urgent issues to study? Will the "Fail Whale"
>>> 
>>> show
>>> 
>>> up
>>> 
>>> again after 75% of the staff is gone? Who will do content
>>> 
>>> moderation?
>>> 
>>> Is
>>> 
>>> this a FastTrack to the next violent uprising in the US?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am curious what people on this particular list think is about to
>>> 
>>> happen.
>>> 
>>> After 12 years featuring the formal study of Twitter data I am
>>> 
>>> completely
>>> 
>>> burned out. Not on the challenges, nor the art and science of the
>>> 
>>> tasks. I
>>> 
>>> still love talking to students and faculty who have chosen Twitter
>>> 
>>> as
>>> 
>>> the
>>> 
>>> object of their research. The data has never been more widely
>>> 
>>> available and
>>> 
>>> the positive uses of it can be inspiring.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's the voluminous amounts of hate I see in my own research. Also
>>> 
>>> the
>>> 
>>> systemic weaponization of Twitter against democratic systems of
>>> 
>>> government
>>> 
>>> globally. As an original Board Member and the Treasurer of a 501
>>> 
>>> (c)(6)
>>> 
>>> called "The Big Boulder Initiative" I was working as a liaison to
>>> 
>>> academia
>>> 
>>> with a group of industry people on the "long term preservation of
>>> 
>>> the
>>> 
>>> social data industry." The industry survived, but the ideals aspired
>>> 
>>> to
>>> 
>>> have not. We offered this 2-minute Lawrence Lessig-inspired vision
>>> 
>>> of
>>> 
>>> the
>>> 
>>> challenges about 7 years ago:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Why Texifter Joined the Big Boulder Initiative"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://vimeo.com/129423037__;!!IaT_gp1N!0Ghlkf1rWCTGT5MfqPFpLm-cdX_SBpmFHVzAbi7e_nr3KCSBblNWocRhIbpOHQGFDd5ZOBbVTyp2WHk_ow$
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lessig was right. On the Internet, architecture is the most powerful
>>> 
>>> regulator. The architecture of Twitter, with corporate ads featured
>>> 
>>> on
>>> 
>>> insurrectionist and other problematic timelines, is now a persistent
>>> 
>>> threat
>>> 
>>> to democratic systems of government without a single day of Musk
>>> 
>>> governance. The insurrection January 6, 2021 was planned in the open
>>> 
>>> on
>>> 
>>> Twitter. There were advertisements from familiar brands in every
>>> 
>>> seditious
>>> 
>>> timeline. Evolving tactics using Twitter trains (tagging 30
>>> 
>>> like-minded
>>> 
>>> users), notification-rich replies, the ReTweet functionality,
>>> 
>>> gamification,
>>> 
>>> domestic and foreign meme warfare, the idolatry of influence via
>>> 
>>> misinformation, bots and trolls, as well as paid amplifiers of all
>>> 
>>> manner
>>> 
>>> and variety. The "digital soldiers" we found in the Canadian
>>> 
>>> election
>>> 
>>> of
>>> 
>>> 2019 (fake Americans who hated Trudeau but liked RT, Russia Today
>>> 
>>> and
>>> 
>>> Southfront) were openly planning a QAnon-inspired "storm" which
>>> 
>>> ultimately
>>> 
>>> was the first coup attempt in two centuries of American democracy. I
>>> 
>>> briefed the US/UK Intelligence Community (staff from the Joint
>>> 
>>> Chiefs,
>>> 
>>> JSOC, etc.) February 12, 2020 via the Strategic Multilayer
>>> 
>>> Assessment
>>> 
>>> using
>>> 
>>> open source information from Twitter. Things have since gotten much
>>> 
>>> worse,
>>> 
>>> not better, since that briefing. These were the slides in early
>>> 
>>> February
>>> 
>>> 2020:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Looking at the current threat-relevant data, I have a
>>> 
>>> sick-to-my-stomach
>>> 
>>> feeling about the next 60 days in U.S. history. We may be late to
>>> 
>>> notice
>>> 
>>> the end of small "d" democracy is imminent or inevitable because of
>>> 
>>> the
>>> 
>>> Internet effects we cannot fully see, capture, measure, or control.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Dr. Stuart W. Shulman
>>> 
>>> Founder and CEO, Texifter
>>> 
>>> Editor Emeritus, *Journal of Information Technology & Politics*
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