[Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?

Tue Oct 25 07:54:55 PDT 2022

There’s always the AoIR Discord server that was set up back in 2019 to a flurry of activity for two weeks and then nothing. https://discord.gg/muTbVnaM

Or we could try blogging again 😉

Jill

On 25/10/2022, 16:20, "Air-L" <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:

Aha.  Then disregard my prior musing.  Thanks for the edification!

On 25 Oct 2022, at 9:20, Enkerli, Alexandre wrote:

> Long story short: Mastodon instances are federated... and it's easier to follow activities on a given instance.
>
> --Alex
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Richard Forno <rick at rickf.org>
> Envoyé : 25 octobre 2022 09:16
> À : Enkerli, Alexandre <Alexandre.Enkerli at collecto.ca>
> Cc : air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> Objet : Re: [Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?
>
> [AVERTISSEMENT] Courriel EXTERNE. Soyez PRUDENT avec les hyperliens et pièces jointes. Merci!
>
> I could be wrong, since I've only dabbled briefly w/Mastodon back in the spring and not really dug too deeply into it yet so bear with me:  Won't this just create a bunch of silos based on what instance you're in?  IoW, say you're in the AOIR instance, are you able to share/communicate/link/follow content and users on, say, ICA's instance?   (Think of how you and your guild has to log into a given server on WoW but can't chat w/someone on another server ... or at least you couldn't when I played.)
>
> If so, wouldn't this mean that Masto is more like an old-style BBS built around likeminded community of users/interests (which I think is nice, btw!) but at the same time fracture and stovepipe online interactions and communities further? It's hard enough to manage 1-2 Twitter feeds ... how will someone manage their identity/participation in X number of Mastodon instances?
>
> As I said, I'm very much a newbie to Mastodon, so I could be totally wrong in my comments here.   -- rick
>
> On 25 Oct 2022, at 8:45, Enkerli, Alexandre via Air-L wrote:
>
>> Nice to meet other Masto users.
>>
>> Moved to Scholar.social during a recent Musk-induced flurry of activity on Mastodon. At that time (a few weeks before the Open Education Global event), a significant number of people in the Open Education movement transferred some activity to the Fediverse.
>> https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fedte
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>>
>> However, it doesn't sound like the level of activity at this point is that much higher than previous attempts at moving away from birdsite.
>>
>> Maybe an AIR instance will change things, especially if the messages from this mailing-list convert into toots.
>>
>>
>> --Alex
>>
>> ALEXANDRE ENKERLI
>> CHARGÉ DE PROJETS • SERVICES DE PÉDAGOGIE NUMÉRIQUE collecto.ca
>>
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> De la part de sally--- via Air-L
>> Envoyé : 24 octobre 2022 18:27
>> À : Robert W Gehl <lists at robertwgehl.org>; Fenwick Mckelvey <mckelveyf at gmail.com>
>> Cc : air-l at listserv.aoir.org
>> Objet : Re: [Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?
>>
>> [AVERTISSEMENT] Courriel EXTERNE. Soyez PRUDENT avec les hyperliens et pièces jointes. Merci!
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm on Mastadon already, but would prefer to be on an AOIR sponsored server...
>> ________________________________
>> From: Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of Fenwick Mckelvey via Air-L <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 1:45 PM
>> To: Robert W Gehl <lists at robertwgehl.org>
>> Cc: air-l at listserv.aoir.org <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?
>>
>> Hi all
>> I am very much interested in the Mastadon opportunity. Please count me in too.
>>
>> Be good,
>> Fenwick
>>
>> On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 at 13:52, Robert W Gehl via Air-L < air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Count me in on this, Aram. (no surprise there, I imagine!)
>>>
>>> As far as I'm concerned, there is academic microblogging beyond the
>>> Musk site -- it's on the fediverse. I'll be talking about it a bit in
>>> my presentation at AOIR.
>>>
>>> - Rob
>>>
>>> On 10/24/22 13:21, Aram Sinnreich via Air-L wrote:
>>>> I’ve been thinking that AoIR should launch its own Mastodon
>>>> instance,
>>> open to all members. Something like aoir[dot]social.
>>>>
>>>> Glad to discuss in Dublin.
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 4:42 PM, Richard Forno via Air-L <
>>> air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> External Email: Use caution with links and attachments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Stu -
>>>>>
>>>>> Like many, I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst for Twitter.
>>>>> I find Twitter a fantastic tool for staying in-touch and updated on
>>>>> colleagues' research/ideas/musings, sharing ideas of my own and
>>>>> perhaps soliciting feedback/contributions, following conference
>>>>> hashtags (hello #AOIR2022!), some current events and
>>>>> socialization...and the odd dog or nature photo  I'd hate quit it,
>>>>> but I've not ruled it out ... but I could live w/o Twitter, even after 13 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without getting too deeply into politics here (which can be hard
>>>>> given the broader issues raised) -- as to your last paragraph Stu,
>>>>> I'm with you.  Since 2001 I've been increasingly concerned about
>>>>> the future of America's lttle-d democracy, view 2016 as a populist
>>>>> accident/experiment, saw 2020--1/6 as a test run. feel 2022 will be
>>>>> a good indicator of where things are heading having learned from
>>>>> 2020, and firmly believe that 2024 likely will be *the* pivotal point for our
>>>>> country one way or the other.   (Though politically, I think this
>>>>> political decline started in the mid-90s when one party decided to
>>>>> treat the other as the 'enemy' and embraced a scorched-earth brand
>>>>> of politics that considered compromise akin to treason, which got
>>>>> cranked to 11 thanks to silo'd cable news and SM platforms in
>>>>> ensuing years.)  And that's all I will prognosticate about here
>>>>> politically -- other than to conclude by saying I'm worried not
>>>>> just about now, but that we will not be able to fix things and get
>>>>> "back on track for the future" anytime soon.  :/.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do admit that despite being an old-school geek/hacker, in recent
>>>>> years I've wrestled with the warm-and-fuzzy nostalgic notion from
>>>>> the '90s that "information wants to be free". In some ways, it's
>>>>> been great for individuals and society -- in other ways, as Borat
>>>>> might say, "not so much."  Of course, that change in thinking also could be a function of
>>>>> midlife as well as current events.   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>>>>
>>>>> But one of the world's dominant modern comms mediums transitioning
>>>>> into an unaccountable private entity run by a person .... however
>>>>> you view Musk .... definitely is concerning on *many* levels.[1].
>>>>> By contrast, at least FB is a regulated public company and has the
>>>>> appearance of some 'objective' review of controversial things via its Oversight Board.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for aca-Twitter?  As I said, I'm still in wait-and-see, but it
>>>>> wouldn't surprise me to see many tweeps both from academia and
>>>>> elsewhere posting their final tweets either due to protest or for
>>>>> professional reasons / protection by year-end or early next year,
>>>>> depending on what 'innovations' are introduced to the platform post-acquisition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stay tuned, I guess...
>>>>>
>>>>> -- rick
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] WaPo reported Friday that DOD/DOJ 'might' be investigating the
>>>>> Twitter deal and SpaceX-DOD contracts due to national security
>>>>> concerns with Musk's public views and his foreign investors.  Could
>>>>> be something there, could be a flash of desperation to block the
>>>>> sale ... but again, the question of accountability comes up.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21 Oct 2022, at 7:43, Shulman, Stu via Air-L wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Will academic Twitter exist under Elon Musk? Will there be more or
>>>>>> less data? More or less urgent issues to study? Will the "Fail
>>>>>> Whale" show up again after 75% of the staff is gone? Who will do
>>>>>> content moderation?
>>>>>> Is
>>>>>> this a FastTrack to the next violent uprising in the US?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am curious what people on this particular list think is about to
>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>> After 12 years featuring the formal study of Twitter data I am
>>>>>> completely burned out. Not on the challenges, nor the art and
>>>>>> science of the tasks. I still love talking to students and faculty
>>>>>> who have chosen Twitter as the object of their research. The data
>>>>>> has never been more widely available and the positive uses of it
>>>>>> can be inspiring.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's the voluminous amounts of hate I see in my own research. Also
>>>>>> the systemic weaponization of Twitter against democratic systems
>>>>>> of government globally. As an original Board Member and the
>>>>>> Treasurer of a 501
>>>>>> (c)(6)
>>>>>> called "The Big Boulder Initiative" I was working as a liaison to
>>>>>> academia with a group of industry people on the "long term
>>>>>> preservation of the social data industry." The industry survived,
>>>>>> but the ideals aspired to have not. We offered this 2-minute
>>>>>> Lawrence Lessig-inspired vision of the challenges about 7 years
>>>>>> ago:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Why Texifter Joined the Big Boulder Initiative"
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lessig was right. On the Internet, architecture is the most
>>>>>> powerful regulator. The architecture of Twitter, with corporate
>>>>>> ads featured on insurrectionist and other problematic timelines,
>>>>>> is now a persistent threat to democratic systems of government
>>>>>> without a single day of Musk governance. The insurrection January
>>>>>> 6, 2021 was planned in the open on Twitter. There were
>>>>>> advertisements from familiar brands in every seditious timeline.
>>>>>> Evolving tactics using Twitter trains (tagging 30 like-minded
>>>>>> users), notification-rich replies, the ReTweet functionality,
>>>>>> gamification, domestic and foreign meme warfare, the idolatry of
>>>>>> influence via misinformation, bots and trolls, as well as paid
>>>>>> amplifiers of all manner and variety. The "digital soldiers" we
>>>>>> found in the Canadian election of
>>>>>> 2019 (fake Americans who hated Trudeau but liked RT, Russia Today
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Southfront) were openly planning a QAnon-inspired "storm" which
>>>>>> ultimately was the first coup attempt in two centuries of American
>>>>>> democracy. I briefed the US/UK Intelligence Community (staff from
>>>>>> the Joint Chiefs, JSOC, etc.) February 12, 2020 via the Strategic
>>>>>> Multilayer Assessment using open source information from Twitter.
>>>>>> Things have since gotten much worse, not better, since that
>>>>>> briefing. These were the slides in early February
>>>>>> 2020:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking at the current threat-relevant data, I have a
>>>>>> sick-to-my-stomach feeling about the next 60 days in U.S. history.
>>>>>> We may be late to notice the end of small "d" democracy is
>>>>>> imminent or inevitable because of the Internet effects we cannot
>>>>>> fully see, capture, measure, or control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr. Stuart W. Shulman
>>>>>> Founder and CEO, Texifter
>>>>>> Editor Emeritus, *Journal of Information Technology & Politics*
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