[Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?
Aram Sinnreich
aram at american.edu
Tue Oct 25 09:52:43 PDT 2022
Great to see so many folks interested in this idea. In order to stop spamming everyone else on the AoIR list, I’ll email all the people who responded with interest in a separate message, and propose a time to meet up in Dublin.
If anyone is interested and doesn’t hear from me in the next hour or two, please feel free to reach out directly at aram at american.edu<mailto:aram at american.edu> and I’ll invite you as well.
Onwards and upwards.
Aram
On Oct 25, 2022, at 9:00 AM, Robert W Gehl via Air-L <air-l at listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l at listserv.aoir.org>> wrote:
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Having just attended Roel's workshop on Hometown/Mastodon this past May,
I can tell everyone interested in this that Roel and his colleagues are
*extremely* adept at setting up, administering, moderating, and
developing alternative social media that is ethical and inclusive. If we
can get Roel and Varia/LURK to help, things will go well!
- Rob
On 10/25/22 11:07, Roel Roscam Abbing via Air-L wrote:
Nice to see where this thread is going!
If there is indeed an initiative to set up an AoIR instance, I am
available and willing to contribute my knowledge and experience on the
subject.
I've been co-administering a Mastodon server since 2018
(https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://post.lurk.org/about/__;!!IaT_gp1N!2e2RrN8ubjv0MAdVFDMbtFTLCPUNNYy15n38CIFVocbQUxu_JfggwM8Q8NwVtaKus19ztCbGNSL0QJnktw$ ) and together with LURK, the association
I am part of, we have facilitated various workshops on the matter
(example:
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Unfortunately, I wont be attending AoIR but can be reached online!
all the best,
Roel
On 10/25/22 15:20, Richard Forno via Air-L wrote:
Aha. Then disregard my prior musing. Thanks for the edification!
On 25 Oct 2022, at 9:20, Enkerli, Alexandre wrote:
Long story short: Mastodon instances are federated... and it's
easier to follow activities on a given instance.
--Alex
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Objet : Re: [Air-L] Will Academic Twitter Exist Under Elon Musk?
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I could be wrong, since I've only dabbled briefly w/Mastodon back in
the spring and not really dug too deeply into it yet so bear with
me: Won't this just create a bunch of silos based on what instance
you're in? IoW, say you're in the AOIR instance, are you able to
share/communicate/link/follow content and users on, say, ICA's
instance? (Think of how you and your guild has to log into a given
server on WoW but can't chat w/someone on another server ... or at
least you couldn't when I played.)
If so, wouldn't this mean that Masto is more like an old-style BBS
built around likeminded community of users/interests (which I think
is nice, btw!) but at the same time fracture and stovepipe online
interactions and communities further? It's hard enough to manage 1-2
Twitter feeds ... how will someone manage their
identity/participation in X number of Mastodon instances?
As I said, I'm very much a newbie to Mastodon, so I could be totally
wrong in my comments here. -- rick
On 25 Oct 2022, at 8:45, Enkerli, Alexandre via Air-L wrote:
Nice to meet other Masto users.
Moved to Scholar.social during a recent Musk-induced flurry of
activity on Mastodon. At that time (a few weeks before the Open
Education Global event), a significant number of people in the Open
Education movement transferred some activity to the Fediverse.
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However, it doesn't sound like the level of activity at this point
is that much higher than previous attempts at moving away from
birdsite.
Maybe an AIR instance will change things, especially if the
messages from this mailing-list convert into toots.
--Alex
ALEXANDRE ENKERLI
CHARGÉ DE PROJETS • SERVICES DE PÉDAGOGIE NUMÉRIQUE collecto.ca
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Hi
I'm on Mastadon already, but would prefer to be on an AOIR
sponsored server...
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Mckelvey via Air-L <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
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Hi all
I am very much interested in the Mastadon opportunity. Please count
me in too.
Be good,
Fenwick
On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 at 13:52, Robert W Gehl via Air-L <
air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
Count me in on this, Aram. (no surprise there, I imagine!)
As far as I'm concerned, there is academic microblogging beyond the
Musk site -- it's on the fediverse. I'll be talking about it a bit in
my presentation at AOIR.
- Rob
On 10/24/22 13:21, Aram Sinnreich via Air-L wrote:
I’ve been thinking that AoIR should launch its own Mastodon
instance,
open to all members. Something like aoir[dot]social.
Glad to discuss in Dublin.
On Oct 23, 2022, at 4:42 PM, Richard Forno via Air-L <
air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
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Hi Stu -
Like many, I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst for
Twitter.
I find Twitter a fantastic tool for staying in-touch and updated on
colleagues' research/ideas/musings, sharing ideas of my own and
perhaps soliciting feedback/contributions, following conference
hashtags (hello #AOIR2022!), some current events and
socialization...and the odd dog or nature photo I'd hate quit it,
but I've not ruled it out ... but I could live w/o Twitter, even
after 13 years.
Without getting too deeply into politics here (which can be hard
given the broader issues raised) -- as to your last paragraph Stu,
I'm with you. Since 2001 I've been increasingly concerned about
the future of America's lttle-d democracy, view 2016 as a populist
accident/experiment, saw 2020--1/6 as a test run. feel 2022 will be
a good indicator of where things are heading having learned from
2020, and firmly believe that 2024 likely will be *the* pivotal
point for our
country one way or the other. (Though politically, I think this
political decline started in the mid-90s when one party decided to
treat the other as the 'enemy' and embraced a scorched-earth brand
of politics that considered compromise akin to treason, which got
cranked to 11 thanks to silo'd cable news and SM platforms in
ensuing years.) And that's all I will prognosticate about here
politically -- other than to conclude by saying I'm worried not
just about now, but that we will not be able to fix things and get
"back on track for the future" anytime soon. :/.
I do admit that despite being an old-school geek/hacker, in recent
years I've wrestled with the warm-and-fuzzy nostalgic notion from
the '90s that "information wants to be free". In some ways, it's
been great for individuals and society -- in other ways, as Borat
might say, "not so much." Of course, that change in thinking
also could be a function of
midlife as well as current events. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But one of the world's dominant modern comms mediums transitioning
into an unaccountable private entity run by a person .... however
you view Musk .... definitely is concerning on *many* levels.[1].
By contrast, at least FB is a regulated public company and has the
appearance of some 'objective' review of controversial things
via its Oversight Board.
As for aca-Twitter? As I said, I'm still in wait-and-see, but it
wouldn't surprise me to see many tweeps both from academia and
elsewhere posting their final tweets either due to protest or for
professional reasons / protection by year-end or early next year,
depending on what 'innovations' are introduced to the platform
post-acquisition.
Stay tuned, I guess...
-- rick
[1] WaPo reported Friday that DOD/DOJ 'might' be investigating the
Twitter deal and SpaceX-DOD contracts due to national security
concerns with Musk's public views and his foreign investors. Could
be something there, could be a flash of desperation to block the
sale ... but again, the question of accountability comes up.
On 21 Oct 2022, at 7:43, Shulman, Stu via Air-L wrote:
Will academic Twitter exist under Elon Musk? Will there be more or
less data? More or less urgent issues to study? Will the "Fail
Whale" show up again after 75% of the staff is gone? Who will do
content moderation?
Is
this a FastTrack to the next violent uprising in the US?
I am curious what people on this particular list think is about to
happen.
After 12 years featuring the formal study of Twitter data I am
completely burned out. Not on the challenges, nor the art and
science of the tasks. I still love talking to students and faculty
who have chosen Twitter as the object of their research. The data
has never been more widely available and the positive uses of it
can be inspiring.
It's the voluminous amounts of hate I see in my own research. Also
the systemic weaponization of Twitter against democratic systems
of government globally. As an original Board Member and the
Treasurer of a 501
(c)(6)
called "The Big Boulder Initiative" I was working as a liaison to
academia with a group of industry people on the "long term
preservation of the social data industry." The industry survived,
but the ideals aspired to have not. We offered this 2-minute
Lawrence Lessig-inspired vision of the challenges about 7 years
ago:
"Why Texifter Joined the Big Boulder Initiative"
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Lessig was right. On the Internet, architecture is the most
powerful regulator. The architecture of Twitter, with corporate
ads featured on insurrectionist and other problematic timelines,
is now a persistent threat to democratic systems of government
without a single day of Musk governance. The insurrection January
6, 2021 was planned in the open on Twitter. There were
advertisements from familiar brands in every seditious timeline.
Evolving tactics using Twitter trains (tagging 30 like-minded
users), notification-rich replies, the ReTweet functionality,
gamification, domestic and foreign meme warfare, the idolatry of
influence via misinformation, bots and trolls, as well as paid
amplifiers of all manner and variety. The "digital soldiers" we
found in the Canadian election of
2019 (fake Americans who hated Trudeau but liked RT, Russia Today
and
Southfront) were openly planning a QAnon-inspired "storm" which
ultimately was the first coup attempt in two centuries of American
democracy. I briefed the US/UK Intelligence Community (staff from
the Joint Chiefs, JSOC, etc.) February 12, 2020 via the Strategic
Multilayer Assessment using open source information from Twitter.
Things have since gotten much worse, not better, since that
briefing. These were the slides in early February
2020:
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Looking at the current threat-relevant data, I have a
sick-to-my-stomach feeling about the next 60 days in U.S. history.
We may be late to notice the end of small "d" democracy is
imminent or inevitable because of the Internet effects we cannot
fully see, capture, measure, or control.
--
Dr. Stuart W. Shulman
Founder and CEO, Texifter
Editor Emeritus, *Journal of Information Technology & Politics*
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