[Air-L] fyi: Zoom claims right to use your sessions to train AI

[Joly MacFie]

According to Mastodon
<https://mastodon.nycmesh.net/@webmink@meshed.cloud/110849597834775580>....

Zoom's ToS just changed.


https://explore.zoom.us/en/terms/


10.4 has had the addition "Notwithstanding the above, Zoom will not use
> audio, video or chat Customer Content to train our artificial intelligence
> models without your consent."



Also, by the by, robots.txt now blocks ChatGPT
https://platform.openai.com/docs/gptbot


J


On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 3:25 PM Mark Ackerman via Air-L <
air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:

> FYI. This is true only for non-enterprise accounts, according to Michael
> Hess, UM school of information’s resident IT sage..  The enterprise license
> has restrictions on how data can be used, and we (UM) has a standard data
> protection agreement as well.
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 1:29 PM Colin Delany via Air-L <
> air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>
> > I suspect that the best chance of stopping this is publicity. The more
> > media coverage of it, the better.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joseph Reagle via Air-L" <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
> > To: "Robert W Gehl" <lists at robertwgehl.org>, "air-l" <
> > air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
> > Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 1:07:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Air-L] fyi: Zoom claims right to use your sessions to train
> > AI
> >
> > My hope is that large institutions -- such as universities -- have
> > licenses that would not permit this...? ---Joseph
> >
> > On 8/7/23 11:35, Robert W Gehl via Air-L wrote:
> > > Hi, rick --
> > >
> > > Thanks for sharing this. I saw your post on the fediverse, and
> following
> > your lead, read the relevant section. In my professional opinion: Zoom's
> > claim to our voice and face data for training AI is super gross.
> > >
> > > People may wonder: what do we do instead of Zoom? One answer I could
> > point to is Nextcloud. I host my own Nextcloud server and I regularly use
> > its Talk application to do video chats -- in fact, I just got off a call
> > with an interviewee for my book project.
> > >
> > > For those of you who don't self-host and want to rely on university or
> > institutional licenses, Nextcloud could be something to point to when you
> > talk to your admins about where to go if Zoom is no longer attractive.
> > >
> > > There are obviously other alternatives (e.g., Jitsi) but I can
> > personally say Nextcloud has done well for me.
> > >
> > > - Rob
> > >
> > > On 2023-08-07 07:47, Richard Forno via Air-L wrote:
> > >> Hi folks -
> > >>
> > >> As I posted to rickf at indieweb.social <mailto:rickf at indieweb.social>
> > yesterday, for those who may be using Zoom for teaching, research,
> external
> > collaborations and/or personal meetings, please note that their latest
> > terms of service (7/27/23) sections 10.1 - 10.4 seems to give them the
> > right to use the audio/video/shared content from your Zoom sessions to
> > train AI models.[1] I'm not aware of any opt-out to this collection.
>  This
> > item began surfacing over the weekend so more coverage in the coming days
> > is likely as the tech & privacy communities digest the potential legal,
> > medical, educational, and IP ramifications of this practice.
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://explore.zoom.us/en/terms/
> > >>
> > >> Just providing a heads-up for AoIRistas concerned with how their
> > (potentially sensitive) data, voice, and/or likeness - or those of their
> > friends, family, students, or collaborators - may be used by a third
> > party.  IIRC BlueSky claims something similar with content posted on that
> > platform, but imo that's not as far-reaching or potentially invasive as
> > this move by Zoom.
> > >>
> > >> <sigh> One wonders if there are any internet ethics folks employed &
> > empowered @ these places anymore, but I'm not optimistic. :/
> > >>
> > >> -- rick
> > >>
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