[Assam] Death under Mukul Mahanta Buildings

[Chan Mahanta]

Hello Again Sri HT:



>  >(1) 'seraa-paagol'
>
>(2) 'bhondo toposyi’
>
>(3) adha-khunda bidya
>
>(4) 'kando-gyan'
>
>(5) 'adha-khunda' ( half-baked), nit-wit wannabe-engineers, etc.


*** I was trying to be kind, that is why I used 
these terms. Could have been a whole lot worse.


>  >This happened because Mr. Mukul Mahanta uses a faulty logic system.

*** You want to tell us about what the "faulty 
logic system" is? No one would really know, 
unless you explain. Or will it be another of your 
secrets, that you won't part with?


>These are NOT personal attacks. Disasters always begin with one death.

*** Is this a Hindu truth? I thought you were an 
engineer, and were aware of deaths in 
construction projects, even in the USA. Are those 
precursors to more and more deaths as in a 
famine? The "logic system" you are utilizing here 
is rather unique, to put it mildly.

>Devoid of any declaration of assumptions and 
>conditions, this kind of >statements from an 
>engineer may misguide people.

*** As an engineer, have you ever heard of heard 
of cost-benefit studies? And have you also heard 
of "Aquifer/ground water recharging" efforts 
going on in water scarce areas all over the 
world? And if you have, do you have any clue why 
it is being done? Sure does not sound like you 
have in either case above.


>I could not even show the death of the bride --- it was too painful to depict.

*** Tsk, tsk! How touching!!

>I replaced it with Ratri Sukta of Rik Veda ---

*** How very generous! Moi bhoktit tenei god-god 
hoi porisw buisene? And nobody even acknowledges 
your goodness! What injustice!!

I tell you HT, these Assam netters are a 
spineless and ungrateful lot. Here you are, one 
of God's Gift to Humanity, if not a Saint, and no 
one pays any homage to you. And here I am, 
Chandan Mahanta, the resident Assam Net terror, 
and netters gives me, and my Assam sovereignty 
advocating brother, a free pass.

Now we understand what is doing a slow burn , 
'khuli-khuli khaise' in your ice-cream and honey 
filled heart: A heart flowing over with love for 
humanity, except them 'invaders' and the Mahanta 
Brothers of Assam Net. The Mahanta Bros. getting 
a free pass, while you, the wannabe-saint getting 
no recognition , no respect!

Tell you what, being the nice guy I am, I will make a pitch for you here:

*** Yo Netters! Get off your duffs and kick my 
rear-end , would ya? HT is getting very jealous. 
Its time you gave me some uttom-modhyom. Perhaps 
it will
quench that 'umi-umi-jwola jui ( slow burning fire) in HT's singed heart'.


Yours very sardonically,

cm






At 2:12 PM -0400 8/27/06, Himendra Thakur wrote:
>
>
>Dear friends in Assam-net,
>
>
>
>Mr. Chandan Mahanta has accused that I have made 
>PERSONAL ATTACKS on his brother Mr. Mukul 
>Chandra Mahanta. Had I made personal attacks, I 
>would have used words & terms like
>
>(1) 'seraa-paagol'
>
>(2) 'bhondo toposyi’
>
>(3) adha-khunda bidya
>
>(4) 'kando-gyan'
>
>(5) 'adha-khunda' ( half-baked), nit-wit wannabe-engineers, etc.
>
>I have not used any such terms. Those are 
>reserved for Mr. Chandan Mahanta. His brother 
>uses much worse terms --- expletive that cannot 
>be mentioned here.
>
>
>
>Mr. Mukul Chandra Mahanta has himself confessed 
>that “1 person succumbed to injuries 3 days 
>later after debris fell on his body. He was 
>sleeping below at ground level-when a tie beam 
>snapped at 2nd floor” in his CONFESSION appended 
>below.
>
>
>
>Death of an innocent victim is a very serious 
>matter. This happened because Mr. Mukul Mahanta 
>uses a faulty logic system.
>
>
>
>Unfortunately, in the Assam-net, most of the 
>participants appear to be very timidly 
>supportive of Mr. Mukul Chandra Mahanta and Mr. 
>Chandan Mahanta.
>
>
>
>Here is one example:
>
>
>
>Mr. Mukul Chandra Mahanta  wrote on August 21, 2006:
>
>“A little arithmetic is called for. Say you have 
>a roof area= 100 sq mtr. and annual normal 
>rainfall =2m.You catch every drop and store. So 
>to store 200 cu.mtr water in a 2.5 mtr deep 
>underground tank  below your house,  you need Rs 
>5 Lakhs etra over just the house cost. You have 
>a 10 member family -need 2 cu mtr water daily. 
>So your annual Harvest of Stale rainwater goes 
>for 100 days! And for 265 days you buy-because 
>you did not dig your ring-well for Rs 10,000/-. 
>At Gau today,Bhar water <mailto:costs at Rs>costs 
>@Rs 20/-. Bhar= 30 litres. Hence you buy 
>water--costing dailyRs 1200/-”
>
>
>
>Devoid of any declaration of assumptions and 
>conditions, this kind of statements from an 
>engineer may misguide people. That was proved 
>immediately when Mr. Rajen Barua, elated by the 
>money-making possibility, eulogized Mr. Mukul 
>Chandra Mahanta  as “learned MM” and rushed with 
>the following statement:
>
>
>
>“Interesting. If this is delivered drinking 
>water to your flat, it is rather cheap, I would 
>say. Less than a rupee per litre.
>
>
>
>Here is a business tip to the local youth in Guwahati.
>
>If you have a plot of land in Guwahati, all you 
>need to do is dig a deep well and produce free 
>drinking water.  You may need little or no 
>filtration at all.  Sell the produced water to 
>the buildings in the city by a water tanker by 
>pumping the water to the roof top tanks.  (You 
>will be called whenever the city water supply 
>will fail or there is extra demand of water in 
>parties). You have unlimited supply of free 
>water. You may not even need a license. You do 
>the math how much profit you will make.
>
>
>
>I would like to hear comments from learned MM if I am doing it wrong.”
>
>
>
>Proving that a number of participants in the 
>assam-net consider any posting by Mr. Mukul 
>Chandra Mahanta as a gospel, Mr. Rajen Baruah 
>declared Mr. Mukul Chandra Mahanta as “learned 
>MM” and proceeded to advise “local youth in 
>Guwahati”  to “dig a deep well”  “if you have a 
>plot of land in Guwahati” ----  Guwahati is a 
>city reportedly populated by 2,515,030 people on 
>an area 4,345 km"   (density 579/ km") without 
>any sewer system, using Septic Tanks & Soak Pits 
>for their latrine waste. Due to high population 
>density, Soak Pits of neighbours overlap, 
>defeating the system.  Many houses discharge raw 
>sewage into open city drains. Neither Mr. Mukul 
>Chandra Mahanta nor Mr. Barua discussed how to 
>keep the “deep well” rainwater reservoir free 
>from sewage contamination. Mr. Rajen Barua 
>stimulates the “local youth in Guwahati” with 
>the idea that "You may need little or no 
>filtration at all."
>
>
>
>While promoting Mr. Mukul Chandra Mahanta’s idea 
>of storing rainwater in a “deep well”, Mr. Rajen 
>Barua also incites “local youth in Guwahati” 
>with the ideas such as “You have unlimited 
>supply of free water. You may not even need a 
>license.”
>
>
>
>A license infuses responsibility and 
>accountability. By inciting “local youth in 
>Guwahati” with the idea “You may not even need a 
>license”, Mr. Rajen Barua has actually promoted 
>the style of irresponsibility of Mr. Mukul 
>Chandra Mahanta.
>
>
>
>These are NOT personal attacks. Disasters always begin with one death.
>
>
>
>In his 1973 movie “Ashani Sanket” about the 
>Great Bengal Famine of 1943 where more that 
>3,000,000 died, Satyajit Ray showed only one 
>death in his movie. “It is enough to show one 
>death”, I remember Satyajit say in an interview, 
>“the pain is the same.”   When I dramatized 
>Tagore story “Dena Paona” on the tragedy of 
>dowry, I could not even show the death of the 
>bride --- it was too painful to depict. I 
>replaced it with Ratri Sukta of Rik Veda --- 
>which is so dark that you can “touch the 
>darkness.” 
>
>
>
>One death under the irresponsible Mukul Mahanta 
>Building will be the precursor of millions of 
>deaths if an uncontrollable epidemic starts in 
>Guwahati due to sewage pollution into drinking 
>water caused by more and more irresponsible 
>engineering advice.
>
>
>
>Let me repeat: It is NOT any personal attack. 
>Our love to our people is much above the loyalty 
>to a brother or to a friend.  Our loyalty to a 
>brother or to a friend must not blind us from 
>doing our duty: Extirpate irresponsibility. 
>Everybody must be accountable.
>
>
>
>With the best wishes,
>
>Himendra
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>APPENDIX: CONFESSION OF MR. MUKUL CHANDRA MAHANTA dated August 21, 2006:
>
>Under Oath-so be it!:  "I shall speak the truth, 
>all the truth and nothing but the truth" .
>
>  Let God give wisdom to all halfwits 
>,nitwits,perjurers and below-average hypocrites!
>
>3 buildings  collapsed out of the  32 total 
>built -all proudly standing . I never Reinforce 
>Concrete with Bamboo.It cannot work.No Govt. or 
>anybody  helped me to invent my epoch-breaking 
>housing solution. Only as they say "Hum to 
>Chaley Bazaaro mey, Kuttey Bhukey Hazaaron sey". 
>My IPR can be purchased at reasonable 
>rates-depending on IQ level of purchaser.
>1 person succumbed to injuries 3 days 
>later after debris fell on his body. He was 
>sleeping below at ground level-when a tie beam 
>snapped at 2nd floor. I was not at that site 
>since 4 month earlier.High court absolved me and 
>the owner after 3 years.
>Happy Now?
>My system is cool pucca Ghar in summer, Warm in 
>Winter, theoretically 9 times more shock 
>resistant in Earthquakes, needs 25% labour,25% 
>material ,almost no foundation costs, fully 
>recyclable--THE future Green housing Technology 
>for the 3rd world!
>
>Don't like it?
>
>Then lump it.
>
>mm
>
>[End of Appendix]
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>Chan Mahanta
>To: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>Cc: 
><mailto:umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu>umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu 
>; <mailto:ibarua at yahoo.com>Indrajit Barua
>Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:23 AM
>Subject: Re: [Assam] Death under Mukul Mahanta Buildings
>
>
>Hello Mr. Himendra Thakur:
>
>>  > However, in the Assam-net, it is a 
>>puzzle why most of the participants, as if for 
>>some mysterious fear, appear to be very timidly 
>>supportive of Mr. Mukul Chandra Mahanta and Mr. 
>>Chandan Mahanta.
>>
>
>
>*** Do you think, perhaps they are fearful of 
>what we might do to them? You know, post-Bamian 
>'terrorism' and stuff?
>
>
>But really, it is not a 'puzzle' at all: You 
>know why? It is because MOST, if not all, Assam 
>Netters are very bright people.They may not say 
>much, but they are about as good as any in the 
>world if not better. They are also, by and 
>large, SOPHISTICATED people. They do not 
>indulge in PERSONAL ATTACKS , particularly of 
>the kind that you specialize in. They realize, 
>unlike you for example,  that anyone can claim 
>anything against anyone they have a bone to pick 
>with. But none of us are in a position to judge 
>the merits of such accusations and 
>counter-accusations. This is a forum, by and 
>large, for discussing issues involving Assam. It 
>is not a court of law. And certainly it is not a 
>fish-market. Too bad you do not realize that you 
>are attempting to turn this forum into exactly 
>that. You cannot see what stares you in the 
>face. Your uncouth and crass personal crusades 
>against individuals could be matched only one 
>other here--the one I call the 'seraa-boliya'. 
>But the 'seraa-boliya' could be given a little 
>leeway because he is obviously mentally 
>challenged.
>
>What is YOUR excuse?
>
>You don't get much response, because people can 
>see how dumb some of your arguments are. For 
>example :
>
>  >Demolishing of Bamiyan Buddha in Afghanistan 
>on March 11, 2001, a precursor  of 911, is a 
>well-known tradition of >Islamic supporters. Mr. 
>Chandan Mahanta demolished the ATAN BURAGOHAIN 
>SAKO even "before" it was built !
>
>Do you think anyone with half a working brain will buy this kind of garbage?
>Even the most simple-minded can tell that the 
>sole purpose of these kind of mud-slinging are 
>revenge for criticisms of the proposals you 
>floated here. They could see your carefully 
>cultivated vedic-piety, your love for all 
>humanity, your decades old and 
>ever-so-dear-friendship with Mukul Mahanta 
>flying right out the window in the face of 
>criticisms of your views and exposure of your 
>not-so-well camouflaged agenda.
>
>Fortunately this is not a forum for personal 
>aggrandizement. It is not a beauty contest here. 
>We debate things passionately, but remain 
>friends and mutually respectful -- most of us 
>that is. You, sir, along with that other 
>malcontent, are the exceptions.
>
>We learn from better examples set by others. 
>Often the examples are subtle. Unfortunately 
>subtleties don't register on certain people, 
>particularly on those who are so intent on 
>preaching that they can't hear ( or see) what is 
>going on. They need a hit on the head with a two 
>by four ( for those who are unfamiliar with the 
>term: It is a piece of lumber of 2"X4" cross 
>section) to be woken up. That is why I decided 
>to deliver this, unpleasant as it is to have to 
>do so. Hope you will notice. It is never too 
>late to learn, never-mind those old Oxomiya 
>fokoras " burha xaalikai maat noloy" or " swre 
>nere swr porkiti, kukure nere sai, jar ji 
>porkiti, morilew logote jai".
>
>We will be looking forward to engaging with a 
>reformed and freshly sensitized Himendra Thakur. 
>Is that a deal?
>
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>At 11:58 PM -0400 8/26/06, Himendra Thakur wrote:
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>>Dear Umesh,
>>
>
>
>
>The condolence is for the person who succumbed 
>to injuries after debris fell on his body when a 
>Mukul Mahanta Building collapsed.
>
>
>
>
>He was sleeping below at ground level when a tie 
>beam snapped at 2nd floor. This information is 
>directly from the CONFESSION (see the Appendix 
>below) of Mr. Mukul Chandra Mahanta.
>
>
>
>
>In his CONFESSION, Mr. Mukul Chandra Mahanta 
>also said that “No Govt. or anybody  helped me 
>to invent my epoch-breaking housing solution.” 
> In performing engineering work, engineers of 
>different expertise always consult with each 
>other. For Mr. Mukul Chandra Mahanta, others are 
>dogs. He says  "Hum to Chaley Bazaaro mey, 
>Kuttey Bhukey Hazaaron sey.”
>
>
>
>
>
>He has taken sole responsibility in designing 
>and constructing his so called "epoch-breaking" 
>houses. He has confessed that “3 buildings 
> collapsed out of the  32 total built 
 1 person 
>succumbed to injuries 3 days later after debris 
>fell on his body. He was sleeping below at 
>ground level-when a tie beam snapped at 2nd 
>floor.”
>
>
>
>
>How did the tie beam fail? Did it snap in 
>tension, or did it break off at connections? Was 
>it a design failure, or was it a material 
>failure? While absolving Mr. Mukul Chandra 
>Mahanta, the High Court must have scrutinized 
>these questions and examined the test results of 
>the strength of concrete  and steel used in the 
>tie beam. I’ll like to have a copy of the High 
>Court Judgment. It may be necessary to take the 
>case to the Supreme Court of India.
>
>
>
>
>In his vociferous support of his brother, Mr. 
>Chandan Mahanta mentioned these  (August 21) as 
>“experimental structures” --- but Mr. Mukul 
>Chandra Mahanta sold these houses "at reasonable 
>rates-depending on IQ level of purchaser."  It 
>is not known how the prices of the houses are 
>proportioned to the IQ level of the hapless 
>purchasers, directly or indirectly.
>
>
>
>
>By selling these experimental structures to 
>unsuspecting purchasers, Mr. Mukul Chandra 
>Mahanta took full responsibility. Yet you say “I 
>do not see how Mukul-da has anything to do with 
>it.”
>
>
>
>
>The information is very transparent. However, in 
>the Assam-net, it is a puzzle why most of the 
>participants, as if for some mysterious fear, 
>appear to be very timidly supportive of Mr. 
>Mukul Chandra Mahanta and Mr. Chandan Mahanta.
>
>
>
>
>
>With the best wishes,
>
>Himendra
>
>
>
>
>APPENDIX: CONFESSION OF MR. MUKUL CHANDRA MAHANTA dated August 21, 2006:
>
>< complete report under oath in the net about 
>how many of his prefabricated buildings 
>collapsed and how many people died or got 
>injured.>
>
>Gladly : Pakor Liyaa!!
>
>Under Oath-so be it!:  "I shall speak the truth, 
>all the truth and nothing but the truth" .
>
>  Let God give wisdom to all halfwits 
>,nitwits,perjurers and below-average hypocrites!
>
>3 buildings  collapsed out of the  32 total 
>built -all proudly standing . I never Reinforce 
>Concrete with Bamboo.It cannot work.No Govt. or 
>anybody  helped me to invent my epoch-breaking 
>housing solution. Only as they say "Hum to 
>Chaley Bazaaro mey, Kuttey Bhukey Hazaaron sey". 
>My IPR can be purchased at reasonable 
>rates-depending on IQ level of purchaser.
>1 person succumbed to injuries 3 days 
>later after debris fell on his body. He was 
>sleeping below at ground level-when a tie beam 
>snapped at 2nd floor.I was not at that site 
>since 4 month earlier.High court absolved me and 
>the owner after 3 years.
>Happy Now?
>My system is cool pucca Ghar in summer, Warm in 
>Winter, theoretically 9 times more shock 
>resistant in Earthquakes, needs 25% labour,25% 
>material ,almost no foundation costs, fully 
>recyclable--THE future Green housing Technology 
>for the 3rd world!
>
>Don't like it?
>
>Then lump it.
>
>mm
>
>[  End of Appendix ]
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: <mailto:jaipurschool at yahoo.com>umesh sharma
>
>To: <mailto:hthakur at comcast.net>Himendra Thakur
>
>Cc: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>
>Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 10:33 PM
>
>Subject: Re: [Assam] Death under Mukul Mahanta Buildings
>
>
>Himendra-da,
>
>
>
>Though I offer condolence for the departed soul 
>I do not see how Mukul-d has anything to do with 
>it.
>
>
>
>Regards.
>
>
>
>Umesh
>
>Himendra Thakur <<mailto:hthakur at comcast.net>hthakur at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Dear Umesh,
>
>Thank you very much. I hope other participants 
>of Assam-net also will come up with their noble 
>hearts to say a word of condolence for the soul 
>of the innocent person who died under the Mukul 
>Mahanta Building.
>
>With love to everybody,
>
>Himendra
>
>
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