[Assam] Enemies of India are enemies of Assam

[Manoj Das]

Hello C'da

Don't you think these arguments are getting too unsavoury and personalised?

mkd

On 3/8/06, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
> Hi Himen-da:
>
> >It is now obvious that people who do not take any responsibility
> >about what they say are spreading "politically >motivated
> >views"  which are dangerous for Assam's survival.
>
>
> *** You continue to stump me with your"--not take any responsibility
> " invocation. You can CLARIFY it with just a few words, but you
> choose not to, keeping us guessing about what the dire consequences
> Assam will be facing in the event it becomes independent.
>
> I do have a fairly active imagination, but even I cannot see what you
> see. You disavowed what Mukul dada speculated on--a Hindu massacre of
> the 'lungi-menace'.
>
> Since you won't tell us what you can see but we don't, would you like
> me to speculate? I know you get heart-burn over that too, something I
> wouldn't like to  do to to my elders, if I can help it.
>
> So, one more request--pleeeeease, pretty please, enlighten us, would you
> :-)?
> And while you are at it, don't forget to explain Gandhi's utter lack
> of responsibility, as could be surmised from your theory, in seeking
> India's
> independence.
>
> >Enemies of India are enemies of Assam.
>
> *** If it is TRUE, can the reverse of it be true as well? That
> enemies of Assam are enemies of India? I will await your answer to
> follow up with another question on that.
>
>
> >However, the "politically motivated views" of these enemies are
> >caught when they write phrases like "Civilian invasion >by India"
> >"Poor Bangladeshi "immigrants" looking for job" --
>
>
> ***  So you would like for us to AVOID humanizing them 'illegals' ,
> the 'lungi-menace' by attemting to understand WHY they continue to
> come into Assam and the NE region? But do you not know that it is an
> old trick of despots and bigots to use language to rob those they
> hate of their humanity, thus making it palatable to  cause atrocity
> over them, to perpetrate ethnic-cleansing, to send them to
> gas-chambers? Is that what your study of Hindu epics, your
> Vedic-ethics taught you Himen-da?
>
> I am no Hindu, and know nothing of Vedic-virtues, but an ordinary
> human response tells me that even illegal-B-deshi-Muslims have a
> human face. That they too have a right to live. I realize it is a
> problem for Assam, for the NE, taking away their land.  BUT what is
> YOUR solution? I mean other than to demonize them with labels, with
> words?  WHY does not INDIA with the constitutional authority and
> responsibility and controls over the resources NOT do anything about
> protecting the borders?
>
> Now if you recite your old excuse of 'them Congresswallas' and their
> vote-banking needs as the CAUSE, you will fool none of us who can
> think and look at issues critically. To us they are ALL Indians.
> Congressis, BJPs, RSS's AGPwallas--you name them! They all feed from
> the same trough, stocked by Delhi! And they are beholden to the same
> forces that feed them.
>
> And your new alibi of India's 'weakness' does not change the picture
> either. Yes, India is a pathetically WEAK state. Anyone who has any
> knowledge of rudimentary political science knows that. But that is
> another reason why Assam does not want to REMAIN under a
> dysfunctional, fractured, directionless behemoth of a forced union,
> held together by brute force that is India. Assam needs to become
> free of them desi-shackles to fashion its OWN ENLIGHTENED, MODERN,
> TRULY DEMOCRATIC state, incorporating the best the world has devised
> so far!
>
> You Himen-da, as a thoughtful and able well-wisher of Assam owe it to
> Assam to support its ambition of remaking itself from the shambles of
> a dysfunctional desi-colony, instead of attempting to keep it under
> India, merely because of your fear of losing your Hinduttwa to the
> lungi-menace! Life is a whole lot more than your 'jaat', or so one
> would hope.
>
> Best,
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> c
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> Best,
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> c
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> At 12:38 PM -0500 3/7/06, Himendra Thakur wrote:
> >Dear Chandan,
> >
> >You are right to say One thing that jumps out is the preponderance
> >of certain politically motivated views and assertions that keep
> >appearing, even after being thoroughly debunked, refuted or
> >discredited.
> >
> >It is now obvious that people who do not take any responsibility
> >about what they say are spreading "politically motivated
> >views"  which are dangerous for Assam's survival.
> >
> >A strong, secure and united India is the geo-political guarantee of
> >the survival of Assam, which is India.
> >
> >Enemies of India are enemies of Assam. However, the "politically
> >motivated views" of these enemies are caught when they write phrases
> >like "Civilian invasion by India" "Poor Bangladeshi "immigrants"
> >looking for job" --- these are obviously biased & motivated opinions
> >for the benefit of Bangladesh, which have been thoroughly debunked,
> >refuted or discredited many times. .
> >
> >In the assam-net, even the Enemies of Assam should have their
> >freedom of expression, but I am sure that the netters will be able
> >to see the thinly covered political motivations of these
> >irresponsible writers.
> >
> >With the best,
> >Himendra
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>Chan Mahanta
> >To: <mailto:hthakur at comcast.net>Himendra Thakur ;
> ><mailto:jkk2020 at aim.com>jkk2020 at aim.com ;
> ><mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
> >Cc: <mailto:hthakur at comcast.net>hthakur at comcast.net ;
> ><mailto:umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu>umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu ;
> ><mailto:ibarua at yahoo.com>Indrajit Barua
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:13 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Assam] Strong, secure, united INDIA
> >
> >Hi Himen-da,
> >
> >
> >Have time for comment only one point for now, even though many more
> >deserve a response :-):
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >The atmosphere in assam-net has become very tense. Is this is a
> >symptom of our internal despondency because we are in the verge of
> >losing our beloved land?
> >
> >
> >
> >*** If it is so, it is a result of the subject-matter being dealt
> >with in the posts that we have seen. One thing that jumps out is the
> >preponderance of certain politically motivated views and assertions
> >that keep appearing, even after being thoroughly debunked, refuted
> >or discredited. That is a sure-fire recipe to draw strident
> >responses.
> >
> >c
>
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