[Assam] invasion of Indo-Gangetic plains by Muslims

[Ram Sarangapani]

Dear Barua,

>If the above is a myth as you are saying, then we should consider it as
such

I don't know. It could be true (it is reasonable to think so) and maybe its
a myth.
>From Himen da's writing, it seems he was trying to say that Muslims
protected many Hindus..."Without the protection of Indian Muslims, India
would have become ..."
That I think was the main point in that paragraph. He was talking about the
role of "Indian Muslims" in their protection of outside forces.

>But in all fairness that does not mean that we put forward stories as
historical facts.

Did Himen da state they were historical facts? I am not sure. But I guess,
he will have to clarify that.

>One can also cite so many stroies how the Hindus harrased the Budddhists

Or how Buddhists harras  Hindus (in Sri Lanka). The stories never end do
they :)

--Ram





On 3/9/06, Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  >What I am trying to say is that human beings would be willing to cross
> religious threshholds if it were a question of life and death.
>
>  Ram:
> Nobody has any problem with your above view. But in all fairness that does
> not mean that we put forward stories as historical facts.
> One can also cite so many stroies how the Hindus harrased the Budddhists.
> The question is are we to indulge in these myths as real histroical facts.
> And if we donot have any historical facts, donot you think we should not try
> to spread these.
> I again quote that Himenda wrote
> >"On January 29, 2006, I clearly wrote in the net that "To protect a
> family during the early period of invasion of Indo-Gangetic plains, if a
> family of had five >brothers, two would take conversion to Islam to protect
> the remaining three. Without the protection of Indian Muslims, India would
> have become completely >Islamized like Persia...."
> If the above is a myth as you are saying, then we should consider it as
> such.
>  RB
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
> *To:* Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* Himendra Thakur <hthakur at comcast.net> ; Shantikam Hazarika<shntikamhaz at gmail.com>;
> assam at assamnet.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Assam] invasion of Indo-Gangetic plains by Muslims
>
>
> Dear Barua,
>
> >I just want to ask you one question. Do you have any proof of the above
> statement?
>
> In all fairness, I too have heard/read of such stories in the past. I
> don't have any proof, nor can I place a bet that such things did happen for
> sure.
>
> But looking at it in a practical manner, it is well within the realm of
> possibilities of survival, that such things did happen.
>
> There were also stories that Hindus (during Hindu-Muslim riots at
> independence) would eat beef to prove they were Muslims and Muslims
> would say they were Hindus by giving claiming their names as Pharsi or
> Christian.
>
> There were also stories that both Hindus and Muslims often protected each
> other as neighbors when attacked.
>
> There are also stories of Assamese and Bengalis (during riots) protecting
> each other - both at Guwahati and in Silchar.
>
> I tend to believe these stories both, good and bad. What I am trying to
> say is that human beings would be willing to cross religious threshholds if
> it were a question of life and death.
>
> --Ram
>
>
> On 3/9/06, Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  >On January 29, 2006, I clearly wrote in the net that "To protect a
> > family during the early period of invasion of Indo-Gangetic plains, if a
> > family of had five >brothers, two would take conversion to Islam to protect
> > the remaining three.
> >
> > Dear Himen-da:
> > I just want to ask you one question. Do you have any proof of the above
> > statement?
> > If yes, can you support with any historical reference or book or article
> > written by any historians?
> > I never heard such statement from any quarter. So it is very important
> > that we absolutely find the truth
> > Rajen.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > *From:* Himendra Thakur <hthakur at comcast.net>
> > *To:* Shantikam Hazarika <shntikamhaz at gmail.com>
> > *Cc:* assam at assamnet.org
> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:01 AM
> > *Subject:* [Assam] Khasi-Christian Stereotyping
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Shantikam,
> >
> >
> >
> > I completely agree with you that this is a wastage of time. But, if I do
> > not record my protest to Mr. Mukul Mahanta for his accusation that I incited
> > *"young Assam INTELLECTUALS to kill a million! Muslims?", *or to protest
> > to Mr. Chandan Mahanta for his accusation that I am involved in a crime
> > *"to perpetrate ethnic-cleansing, to send them to gas-chambers",* the
> > younger generation may go with a wrong impression. I must protest and record
> > that I am not even remotely involved in these crimes.
> >
> >
> >
> > On January 29, 2006, I clearly wrote in the net that "To protect a
> > family during the early period of invasion of Indo-Gangetic plains, if a
> > family of had five brothers, two would take conversion to Islam to protect
> > the remaining three. Without the protection of Indian Muslims, India would
> > have become completely Islamized like Persia. I have recorded this many
> > times that, in India, *Hindus and Muslims are brothers* lost in the
> > hurricane of History. Once that hurricane is over, the two brothers will
> > shake off their differences and unite."  I have been declaring the
> > Hindus and Muslims as "brothers" since 1991 in my published book "Don't Burn
> > My Mother!" The insinuations by Mr. Mukul Mahanta and Mr. Chandan Mahanta
> > that I incited "young Assam INTELLECTUALS to kill a million! Muslims?" and
> > that I am involved in a crime "to perpetrate ethnic-cleansing, to send them
> > to gas-chambers" are preposterous, to say the least.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > assam mailing list
> > assam at assamnet.org
> > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
> >
> >
> >
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.assamnet.org/pipermail/assam-assamnet.org/attachments/20060309/74b44459/attachment.htm>