[Assam] invasion of Indo-Gangetic plains by Muslims

Thu Mar 9 18:55:09 PST 2006

>he was trying to say that Muslims protected many Hindus

Did you read it that way. I did not.
RB
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ram Sarangapani 
  To: Rajen Barua 
  Cc: Himendra Thakur ; Shantikam Hazarika ; assam at assamnet.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [Assam] invasion of Indo-Gangetic plains by Muslims

  Dear Barua,

  >If the above is a myth as you are saying, then we should consider it as such

  I don't know. It could be true (it is reasonable to think so) and maybe its a myth. 
  From Himen da's writing, it seems he was trying to say that Muslims protected many Hindus..."Without the protection of Indian Muslims, India would have become ..." 
  That I think was the main point in that paragraph. He was talking about the role of "Indian Muslims" in their protection of outside forces.

  >But in all fairness that does not mean that we put forward stories as historical facts.

  Did Himen da state they were historical facts? I am not sure. But I guess, he will have to clarify that.

  >One can also cite so many stroies how the Hindus harrased the Budddhists

  Or how Buddhists harras  Hindus (in Sri Lanka). The stories never end do they :)

  --Ram

  On 3/9/06, Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote: 
    >What I am trying to say is that human beings would be willing to cross religious threshholds if it were a question of life and death. 

    Ram:
    Nobody has any problem with your above view. But in all fairness that does not mean that we put forward stories as historical facts.
    One can also cite so many stroies how the Hindus harrased the Budddhists.
    The question is are we to indulge in these myths as real histroical facts. And if we donot have any historical facts, donot you think we should not try to spread these. 
    I again quote that Himenda wrote
    >"On January 29, 2006, I clearly wrote in the net that "To protect a family during the early period of invasion of Indo-Gangetic plains, if a family of had five >brothers, two would take conversion to Islam to protect the remaining three. Without the protection of Indian Muslims, India would have become completely >Islamized like Persia...." 
    If the above is a myth as you are saying, then we should consider it as such.
    RB

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Ram Sarangapani 
      To: Rajen Barua 
      Cc: Himendra Thakur ; Shantikam Hazarika ; assam at assamnet.org 
      Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:55 PM
      Subject: Re: [Assam] invasion of Indo-Gangetic plains by Muslims

      Dear Barua,

      >I just want to ask you one question. Do you have any proof of the above statement?

      In all fairness, I too have heard/read of such stories in the past. I don't have any proof, nor can I place a bet that such things did happen for sure. 

      But looking at it in a practical manner, it is well within the realm of possibilities of survival, that such things did happen. 

      There were also stories that Hindus (during Hindu-Muslim riots at independence) would eat beef to prove they were Muslims and Muslims would say they were Hindus by giving claiming their names as Pharsi or Christian. 

      There were also stories that both Hindus and Muslims often protected each other as neighbors when attacked.

      There are also stories of Assamese and Bengalis (during riots) protecting each other - both at Guwahati and in Silchar.

      I tend to believe these stories both, good and bad. What I am trying to say is that human beings would be willing to cross religious threshholds if it were a question of life and death. 

      --Ram

      On 3/9/06, Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com > wrote: 
        >On January 29, 2006, I clearly wrote in the net that "To protect a family during the early period of invasion of Indo-Gangetic plains, if a family of had five >brothers, two would take conversion to Islam to protect the remaining three. 

        Dear Himen-da:
        I just want to ask you one question. Do you have any proof of the above statement?
        If yes, can you support with any historical reference or book or article written by any historians?
        I never heard such statement from any quarter. So it is very important that we absolutely find the truth
        Rajen.

        ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Himendra Thakur 
          To: Shantikam Hazarika 
          Cc: assam at assamnet.org 
          Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:01 AM
          Subject: [Assam] Khasi-Christian Stereotyping

          Dear Shantikam,

          I completely agree with you that this is a wastage of time. But, if I do not record my protest to Mr. Mukul Mahanta for his accusation that I incited "young Assam INTELLECTUALS to kill a million! Muslims?", or to protest to Mr. Chandan Mahanta for his accusation that I am involved in a crime "to perpetrate ethnic-cleansing, to send them to gas-chambers", the younger generation may go with a wrong impression. I must protest and record that I am not even remotely involved in these crimes. 

          On January 29, 2006, I clearly wrote in the net that "To protect a family during the early period of invasion of Indo-Gangetic plains, if a family of had five brothers, two would take conversion to Islam to protect the remaining three. Without the protection of Indian Muslims, India would have become completely Islamized like Persia. I have recorded this many times that, in India, Hindus and Muslims are brothers lost in the hurricane of History. Once that hurricane is over, the two brothers will shake off their differences and unite."  I have been declaring the Hindus and Muslims as "brothers" since 1991 in my published book "Don't Burn My Mother!" The insinuations by Mr. Mukul Mahanta and Mr. Chandan Mahanta that I incited "young Assam INTELLECTUALS to kill a million! Muslims?" and that I am involved in a crime "to perpetrate ethnic-cleansing, to send them to gas-chambers" are preposterous, to say the least. 

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