[Assam] Army admits to torture - IANS/Gulf News

[Rajib Das]

The logic I was using (or rather extending) was
C-da's, not mine. Ipso Facto, C-da is the one that
seems to be doing the spinning.

Now, here is my logic. 

The issue is not about Assam having to take things
lying down vis a vis the Indian government. The issue
is about the ULFA versus GOI and their net deletrious
effect on the people of Assam. 

It isn't hard to surmise that the ULFA cannot fight
their insurgency right. They cannot negotiate their
peace right. They cannot even extort in a disciplined
manner. They are not heeding to the demands of the
public for peace. 

As an indicator, maybe a census needs to be taken of
how much extortion they have done, how many ordinary
civilians they have extorted from and what has
happened to the money.

These are the signs of today. Unfortunately there are
no signposts for tomorrow. And if today is marked by
such gross incompetence, one can only guess what
tomorrow will bring.

The GOI is not sacrosanct. Neither is the ULFA. The
people of Assam are. And if they have to decide - it
is not a decision for them of taking things lying down
with the GOI. It is really to choose between the
current wayward ways of GOI and the wayward ways of
ULFA. 

If you have to apply logic, please apply it right.


> On 10/17/06, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >  If we are examining logic then it is very easy to
> see that both Rajib and
> > Ram are spinning around in circular logic.
> >
> >
> > ** Rajib argues that '*since ULFA goes about
> murdering innocent civilians'
> > *, the reason for which they took up arms --- to
> free Assam from Indian
> > misrule and tyranny, among others --- their
> alternative should not be
> > considered at all.( Note how in this argument the
> little issue of
> > DEGREES--as in the number of civilian deaths
> attributable to ULFA and the
> > number of civilian torture, disappearance and
> deaths attributable to Indian
> > Army,  conveniently disappears.)
> >
> >
> > Thus according to Rajib, Indian misrule and
> tyranny over Assam ought to
> > continue and Assam ought to take it lying down (
> since redress thru the
> > dysfunctional desi-demokrasy's institutions have
> never been available, and
> > without comprehensive reforms will never
> materialize).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You go figure which is worse!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The thinking person therefore should ask the
> following questions:
> >
> >
> > IF India, the much touted 'liberal-democracy' it
> supposedly is, and is
> > even remotely effective, what has it produced to
> eradicate the causes that
> > gave rise to the insurgency to begin with?
> >
> >
> > IF it has done things, what are they, and how come
> over the decades the
> > Assamese and regional disaffections have only
> widened, now to over thirty
> > insurgencies, instead of abating?
> >
> >
> > AND, if nothing or little have been done, WHY SO?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The answers to these could lead to pin-pointing
> the problems and solution
> > scenarios explored.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 7:54 PM -0700 10/16/06, Rajib Das wrote:
> >
> > Taking C-da's logic forward a bit...
> >
> > So if indeed the ULFA is killing innocent
> civilians,
> > it and its liberated Assam as an alternative is
> not
> > worth contemplating. After all why at all go from
> the
> > devil to the bad blue sea?
> >
> 
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