[Assam] From Assam Tribune/ Innovative Thinking?
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at charter.net
Wed Sep 17 20:51:12 PDT 2008
Hi Alpana:
Let us assume for a moment that *I* don't have any solution. Would
that mean that what the guvnor proposes is A solution , if NOT THE
solution?
Or IF someone criticizes a non-solution, but does not have a
SOLUTION of his own, mean that the non-solution should be considered
a solution? In other words, if I don't have a solution, the guvnor's
proposal stands as A solution?
Not that I am entirely out of it Alpana. I just presented a POSSIBLE
solution for discussion and debate. Perhaps you ought to look at it
and criticize it or endorse it. Or offer something else that would
not be a straw against a broken water-main, like the good guvnor has
proposed. Is that fair?
At 9:43 PM -0500 9/17/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
>What is your suggestion then? What would work, C'da? Let's hear it.
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>Also, to some, is it like - Paani Nidiu, laagile xei paaniye aamaar
>logote aamaar ghor-xompoti -u dubaai niyok.
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>"When restraint and courtesy are added to strength the latter
>becomes irresistible."
>"In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree
>and humble like a blade of grass."
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> > Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:08:29 -0500> To: assam at assamnet.org>
>From: cmahanta at charter.net> CC: waterwatch at yahoogroups.com> Subject:
>Re: [Assam] From Assam Tribune/ Innovative Thinking?> > I hear you
>Alpana.> > The point here is WHAT WORKS?> > Allow me to give you an
>example. Imagine your water supply main has > broken. And you take a
>soft-drink straw and try to suck it out. It > WOULD reduce the
>deluge. But would it make a DIFFERENCE?> > > Hope it helps.> >
>c-da> > > PS: WHY on earth would I be mad at you? So glad to hear
>that you were > not seriously affected by Ike.> > > > > > > > > > >
>At 6:47 PM -0500 9/17/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:> >Good to
>hear from you too, C'da. I thought you were so mad at us > >that you
>had stopped talking to us :).> >> >> How would you like to see China
>damming up the Tsangpo to block > >>that > part of the water from
>coming down the Brahmaputra for > >>example? That > would be a whole
>lot more reduction of water than a > >>1 meter diameter > or even 2,
>pipe carrying water from the > >>Brahmaputra, would'nt it?> >Again,
>as long as that takes away the extra water. And as long as
>it > >does not back-fire....if for some reason the dam breaks, or
>it > >shoudl not overflow and affect the people again by creating
>another > >flood season in the winter or whenever that
>breaks.> >> >Did you hear how desperate the tone in "anything that
>works" could > >be from the farmers' point of view, C'da?> >> >For
>argument's sake, I would say this: after Ike left, we
>simply > >didn't have electricity (cooking gas and cell phones were
>still > >working), our home was not flooded, neither did our roads,
>the > >pantry was filled with canned food and also with our regular
>rice, > >daal, beans, potatoes, squash, etc., and what not. Still,
>we felt so > >helpless, so disconnected, and was so overwhelmed with
>depressing > >thoughts!> >> >We can only imagine how the ones that
>lost their main home (not the > >summer house or the farm house),
>what would they go through, and in > >Assam's case, by the time they
>put together things (or not) in their > >homes after a year's hard
>work, it's time to loose it all over again.> >> >So I would think
>that they will look forward to 'anything' that > >works to stop
>that. I know it's simplistic thoughts from a > >simplistic mind (no,
>I am not upset that you repeatedly say that > >whenever I bring up
>or talk about a simple solution to the hardest > >problem that
>nobody has bothered to even try solving it by > >experimenting any
>other meant too!), but who knows that could be it! > >And if not
>this, something needs to be done, but what? Do we have > >something
>better in the pipeline? Or, is it something that everybody > >(but
>the villagers that really live with the problem) talks
>about > >during the summer time and forgets by the
>winter?> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >"When restraint and courtesy are
>added to strength the latter > >becomes irresistible."-Mahatma
>Gandhi, 1931> >"In order to make spiritual progress you must be
>patient like a tree > >and humble like a blade of grass."> >> > >
>Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:32:28 -0500> To:
>assam at assamnet.org> > >From: cmahanta at charter.net> CC:
>waterwatch at yahoogroups.com> Subject: > >Re: [Assam] From Assam
>Tribune/ Innovative Thinking?> > Good to hear > >from you Alpana!> >
>Yes, you are right about "-- get the flood water > >out of Assam >
>during the rainy season". But the qualifier > >'ANYTHING' is where
>the > problem lies. Look at the "ANYTHING" like > >solutions that
>Bihar got > and see what it is doping for its > >people!> > So,
>ANYTHING is not necessarily better than NOTHING.
>Such > >simplistic > analogies have been at the root of India's many
>manmade > >miseries. " > Sob kuch solta hai" is not good policy as
>you would > >realize instantly > if only you ponder that for a
>moment.> > How > >would you like to see China damming up the Tsangpo
>to block that > > >part of the water from coming down the
>Brahmaputra for example? > >That > would be a whole lot more
>reduction of water than a 1 meter > >diameter > or even 2, pipe
>carrying water from the Brahmaputra, > >would'nt it?> > Only an
>utterly ignorant person would assert that > >piping water out > from
>the Brahmaputra would or could alleviate > >flooding in Assam. > And
>I am stunned by the journalistic acumen of > >a newspaper that >
>lauds it as "innovative thinking".> > While I > >realize that the
>good guvnor is a lay person , and old > political > >animal out in
>the pasture and as such could not be expected > to > >have much
>knowledge about the world of water, one would have hoped > > >he has
>or has access to advisers who can at least coach him on > >what > to
>say ( and what not to), if not explain successfully. But
>I > >guess > that is not something that one can expect from
>Indian > >governance, > even today.> > Finally, I am sure you will
>agree that > >to remain smug in a world of > know-nothing-ism, isn't
>much of a > >virtue, wouldn't you :-)?> > > > > > > > > At 12:48 PM
>-0500 > >9/17/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:> >Anything that works
>to get > >the flood water out of Assam during the > >rainy season so
>that the > >villagers don't suffer year after
>year > >after > >year.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >"When restraint and
>courtesy are > >added to strength the latter > >becomes
>irresistible."> >"In order > >to make spiritual progress you must be
>patient like a tree > >and > >humble like a blade of grass."> >> > >
>Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 > >09:30:39 -0500> To:
>assam at assamnet.org> > >From: > >cmahanta at charter.net> CC:
>WaterWatch at yahoogroups.com> > >Subject: > >[Assam] From Assam
>Tribune/ Innovative Thinking?> > What > >do netters > >think? Is it
>innovative thinking as the Assam > > >Tribune > >characterizes it?
>Will it "---reduce the flood level in > >the > main > >river
>sufficiently" ? Does it sound like a comment > >from even
>a > > >remotely informed person or yet another fool's > >rants? Or
>could > >AT's > comment reflect utter clueless-ness
>and > >demonstration of > >abject > brown-nosing?> > Express
>yourselves > >folks! Silence is not > >golden. Silence of the able >
>is an > >abdication of citizenship > >responsibilities and leads to
>the > > >blunders upon blunders that our > >people have endured
>for > >generations.> > cm> > > > > > > > > Governor > >Mathur for
>diverting > >Brahmaputra water> > Spl correspondent> NEW > >DELHI,
>Sept 16 - In > >what could be described as innovative > > >thinking,
>Governor of > >Assam, Shiv Charan Mathur today mooted an > >idea >
>to create a mega > >national grid for diverting the water
>of > >mighty > Brahmaputra > >River through pipeline to water
>deficient > >States. The > > >Governor's proposal can be seen as an
>extension of > >the > >river-linking > project, was unveiled at the
>two-day > >Conference of > >Governors' hosted > by President,
>Pratibha > >Devisingh Patil, here > >today.> > The Governor, who
>spoke at length > >on the flood problem of > >Assam, has > reasoned
>that if crude oil > >could be brought from > >countries like Iran >
>and Afghanistan > >covering a distance of 5000 > >Km. Why can't
>water of > Brahmaputra > >River be profitably used by > >water
>deficient States like > Madhya > >Pradesh,
>Chhatisgarh, > >Jharkhand, Delhi and Rajasthan.> > A > >national
>grid for supply of > >water would be constructed at > > >appropriate
>location in the mighty > >Brahmaputra and the same could > >be >
>sent through pipeline to the > >water scarce States in
>the > >country, he > said.> > All through its > >course adequate
>number of > >boosting stations could be > put to reach > >the water
>to the > >States.> > This is going to reduce the flood level > >in
>the main > >river > sufficiently. "To have a permanent solution
>to > >the flood > >problem we > need to regulate the flow of water
>into the > >main > >river from its > tributaries like constructing
>reservoirs in > >the > >upper reaches," he > said.> > The river
>system of Assam has > >to > >develop in an integrated and >
>comprehensive way for utilising > >the > >vast water resources
>available.> > This is a mega national > >project, > >which could be
>planned and initiated > only by > >Government of India > >by making
>adequate financial provisions.> > A > >mechanism is > >therefore,
>required which would pay back the > > >investments made
>and > >survive on its own and also generate > >adequate > revenue,
>while > >giving additional benefits of > >introducing a >
>nationalist and > >socio-economic fabric of the > >region by
>generating > considerable > >jobs and various > >opportunities, in
>turn may solve the > prevailing > >unrest in North > >Eastern
>Region, he suggested.> > Calling for > >support, the > >Governor
>said the mega national project is > the need > >of the hour > >and
>should be undertaken by Government of India, > if > >need be
>by > >inviting foreign consultants in the field.> >
>Referring > >to > >another aspect of the economy, the Governor said
>there > > >were > >efforts underway to hold a seminar in December on
>the > > >hydrocarbon > >potential and the key aspects of exploring
>oil on a > >large > scale in > >Assam.> > Efforts are also underway
>to provide > >employment to the > >urban educated > youths by
>opening new > >industries, starting new > >universities and by >
>enhancing the > >intake capacity of
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