[Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam
kamal deka
kjit.deka at gmail.com
Sat Mar 21 16:34:53 PDT 2009
It is the people who can create change for which autonomy should not be a
pre-requisite.A totally new brigade of leaders/a network of dedicated
individuals can help creating public awareness in this regard.Did you read
the article " Land of Whiners"? I sent that article to Assamnet under the
title " Crybaby"
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
> At 6:07 PM -0500 3/21/09, kamal deka wrote:
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>> Those, who fell in love with the concept of full autonomy hook,line and
>> sinker,should tell us first as to how on earth they would convert Assam
>> into
>> an Utopian state,once the autonomy is granted.
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> *** Why aspire for utopia ? Much less will do. Question is how will even
> that 'much-less' come about from more of the same? Shouldn't the
> deductive-logicians be able to tell us :-)?
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>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>> wrote:
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>> >A course of fundamental deductive logic must be taught to those who
>>>
>>>> believe
>>>> that there will be a complete change in the behaviour of the Assamese
>>>> people
>>>> only when Assam gains full autonomy.Shouldn't we set our house in order
>>>> first before striving to attain ideal goals?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> *** That should inspire us then to ask WHAT will help change such
>>> behavior?
>>> If one uses that deductive logic , the answer that should stare one in
>>> the
>>> face, unless explained/spelled out to be something different, will be:
>>> More
>>> of the same!
>>>
>>>
>>> Now that ought to bring one to senses.
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>>> At 10:18 PM -0500 3/20/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>>
>>> These are the folks,who now style themselves as pro-talk fraction of the
>>>> ULFA,rolled over to Bangladesh to launch attack against their own
>>>> people
>>>> and mowed down a vast number innocent civilians,including women and
>>>> children,by short-circuiting their killing machine.And these are the
>>>> very
>>>> people,who snuffed so many innocent Biharis ( read Indian citizen) out
>>>> of
>>>> their lives for no fault of theirs,are now blabbering about the
>>>> presence
>>>> of
>>>> Bangladeshis in Assam.These are the very folks, who set the state
>>>> ablaze
>>>> by
>>>> involving in destructive activities,are trying to act as
>>>> fire-fighters.The
>>>> people,true to their type, must be living in a land inhabited only by
>>>> hypocrites.The old Bangla adage " Bhooter mukhe Ram nam" ( Devil
>>>> quoting
>>>> scriptures) can aptly be applied to this tribe.What prevents them from
>>>> asking those Assamese leaders,who choose to remain steadfast in their
>>>> opinion that there are no Bangladeshis in Assam?
>>>> A course of fundamental deductive logic must be taught to those who
>>>> believe
>>>> that there will be a complete change in the behaviour of the Assamese
>>>> people
>>>> only when Assam gains full autonomy.Shouldn't we set our house in order
>>>> first before striving to attain ideal goals?
>>>> KJD
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Would it not be a total Alice-in -Wonderland to expect the people of
>>>>
>>>>> Assam
>>>>> >to behave responsibly all of a sudden only after full autonomy is
>>>>> achieved?
>>>>> >Can you boast of a single city in Assam which is clean and filled
>>>>> with
>>>>> >amenities which is purely a state subject in which Delhi can't and
>>>>> does
>>>>> not
>>>>> >poke its nose?
>>>>> >Wouldn't it be foolishness to expect someone to run before being able
>>>>>
>>>> >>> to
>>
>>> >walk?
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't agree more. In the past, I have always expressed (in these
>>>>> columns) that state autonomy would be a good thing for Indian states.
>>>>> But,
>>>>> alongwith such new found liberties also come new found
>>>>> responsibilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Such calls for full autonomy merely amount to yet another round of
>>>>> 'feel-good' stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Ram
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:40 PM, kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > One of the oft-repeated urban myths that sometimes pops-up in
>>>>> conversation
>>>>> > even among many educated, well meaning Assamese is that India as a
>>>>> nation
>>>>> > is
>>>>> > a British creation. The argument goes roughly as follows - India is
>>>>> an
>>>>> > artificial entity. It was only the British that created the idea of
>>>>> India
>>>>> > as a single nation and unified it into a political state. Note that
>>>>>
>>>> >>> the
>>
>>> > concept of nationhood is based on the idea shared by a set of people
>>>>> that
>>>>> > they constitute a nation. This idea or feeling may be based on
>>>>> common
>>>>> ties
>>>>> > of a people based on their culture, common descent, language,
>>>>> religion
>>>>> or
>>>>>
>>>>> > > other such attributes. The state constitutes a group of people
>>>> inhabiting
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>> > specific territory and living according to a common legal and
>>>>> political
>>>>> > authority. The modern nation-state, as it exists today, *is a new
>>>>> > development for the entire world*, and not just for India. Medieval
>>>>> Europe,
>>>>> > for instance, was divided politically into many small
>>>>> principalities,
>>>>> the
>>>>> > boundaries and sovereignties of which changed frequently.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Similarly, Africa and South America mostly constitute of state
>>>>>
>>>>> > boundaries
>>>>
>>>> > carved up by colonial rule. In short, if we take the legitimacy of
>>>>> current
>>>>> > nation-states on the basis of centuries of common continuous
>>>>> political
>>>>> rule
>>>>> > over the same geographical boundary and inhabited by the same
>>>>> people,
>>>>> then
>>>>> > practically no country on the planet meets this criteria. Simply
>>>>> put,
>>>>> > shifting nature of political kingdoms and their boundaries over the
>>>>> > centuries legitimize virtually no country in its present form.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Turning my attention towards autonomy demand,let me raise the
>>>>> following
>>>>> > questions.
>>>>> > Would it not be a total Alice-in -Wonderland to expect the people of
>>>>> Assam
>>>>> > to behave responsibly all of a sudden only after full autonomy is
>>>>> achieved?
>>>>> > Can you boast of a single city in Assam which is clean and filled
>>>>> with
>>>>> > amenities which is purely a state subject in which Delhi can't and
>>>>> does
>>>>> not
>>>>> > poke its nose?
>>>>> > Wouldn't it be foolishness to expect someone to run before being
>>>>> able
>>>>> to
>>>>> > walk?
>>>>> > KJ Deka
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:16 AM, ULFA Pro-talk <ulfa.protalk at gmail.c
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Dear Sir,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Historically and socially, Assam have no affinity with India and
>>>>> > > nationalism in the north-east had a different context altogether.
>>>>> The
>>>>> > > Assamese very strongly resented the British occupation of the Ahom
>>>>> > > territory. Between 1828 to 1857 Assamese led by the erstwhile
>>>>> prince's
>>>>> > > revolted thrice. The Assamese having lost all their earlier
>>>>> battles
>>>>> and
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > > prayer and petitions having failed, decided to join Indian
>>>>> National
>>>>> > > Congress(INC). The congress never considered northeast within the
>>>>> > national
>>>>> > > scene. The Assamese joined the INC volunteerly and the INC entered
>>>>> the
>>>>> > > plains of Assam only on invitation. The hills remain unconnected
>>>>> and
>>>>> > > unaffected by the slogan.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Indian independence infact did not mean freedom and liberty for
>>>>> the
>>>>> > > Assamese people. It was mere transfer of power without a break
>>>>> with
>>>>> the
>>>>> > > imperial past. The Indian stepped into the shoes of alien whether
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> > > administration, industry, trade or commerce. Despite being the
>>>>> largest
>>>>> > > producer of Tea, Oil Assam remains one of the poorest and
>>>>>
>>>> >>> industrially
>>
>>> > > backward regions. The colonial mode of exploitation still very
>>>>> much
>>>>> > prevails
>>>>> > > in Assam making it into a colonial hinterland. In the last 61
>>>>> years
>>>>> of
>>>>> > > Indian independence, the problem of illegal immigrants has been
>>>>> > deliberately
>>>>> > > neglected and encouraging infiltration of foreign nationals by
>>>>> indian
>>>>> > > political leaders irrespective of any political party for their
>>>>> vested
>>>>> > > interests. In the next 20 years, the Assamese community will be
>>>>> reduced
>>>>> > to a
>>>>> > > minority and the foreign nationals will become socially and
>>>>> politically
>>>>> > > dominant. Therefore, we strongly beleive that a full regional
>>>>> autonomy
>>>>> > with
>>>>> > > regional federalism will ensure the protection of socio-economic
>>>>> and
>>>>> > > political rights of self-determination of the indigenous and
>>>>> ethnic
>>>>>
>>>> >>> > people.
>>
>>> > > For your information, in response to our menifesto and with
>>>>> confidence
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > > co-operation of indigenous and ethnic people we are in the process
>>>>> > > of forming a broad based common platform in order to achieve
>>>>> long-term
>>>>> > > solutions to the various issues along with the serious issue of
>>>>> foreign
>>>>> > > nationals.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Finally, we would once again request you to kindly go through our
>>>>> > menifesto
>>>>> > > carefully.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Thanking you,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Regards,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Jiten Dutta
>>>>> > > General Secretary
>>>>>
>>>>> > > > ULFA ( Protalk )
>>>>
>>>> > >
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